Wan periodic reset causes system reboot.
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We are still digging into this. It looks like there may be several related issues here. The NDP issue being one of them.
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@stephenw10 said in Wan periodic reset causes system reboot.:
We are still digging into this. It looks like there may be several related issues here. The NDP issue being one of them.
If the coding is not too complicated the understanding of this will wipe at least 3 bugs away. A 4th could be the unexplained DNS Resolver cache wipe following a pfBlocker cron-job. Seems you have more in mind though!
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Well I hope there's not more!
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@stephenw10 said in Wan periodic reset causes system reboot.:
Well I hope there's not more!
Surely one fix that fixes many is better than chasing down all these individual bugs? Well, unless you are the one unpicking the code...
Will this work fold into v23.09 or is it too late for that?
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I hope that it will be 23.09. The ndp fix certainly will be.
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Ok, sounds hopeful but I appreciate this discovery came very late in the .09 workflow.
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anything new on this issue?
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Not yet. At least not as far as I know since we still have yet to replicate it locally. There are fixes for other things that could be interacting to cause this on some systems. If you're able to test a 23.09 snapshot and can repeatedly trigger this issue please do so.
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Still covered by this on redmine:
No improvement yet on 23.09 dev and the issue is (probably) being pushed to 24.03, so another 6 months+ away.
It's not ideal, I know. I'm looking for a non-pfSense option in the interim to cover the periods when I may not be around to resolve these crashes & reboots.
In the meantime I've been pushing data at the Netgate team and running stuff whenever needed and trying every development load.
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anything on beta 23.09?
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No, nothing substantive. Netgate did ask me to produce results with a modified kernel but the moving set of instructions left me in a bit of a hole with a router that should have been in production.
I am building-up a new server with pfSense+ so I can test with more freedom but my testing hours with a live WAN are limited. I could do with more help really.
It would really help if Netgate provided a complete version to test with, rather than being left to modify stuff myself in order to provide data for them. They expect quite a bit from a paying customer (although I acknowledge this would be different if they could replicate the issue on their own dev systems).
Anyway, I remain committed and will still invest the time needed where I can.
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Yes, I'm sorry about that. Not being able to replicate it ourselves makes everything much more difficult. It's especially annoying here because I have essentially an identical setup to you. The only significant difference is the connection speed.
We are working to add a coredump implementation in the gui to make this process much easier.
In the mean time I'd be happy to work with you here if you're able to.
If you're able to I would simply reinstall with a much larger SWAP size to avoid the need for an external drive with SWAP.
Also one thing I didn't realise until I tested it was that changes to the pfSnse-ddb.conf file are read in a boot so the system needs to be rebooted normally to apply them before the panic is triggered.
Steve
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Clearly I am happy to work with you Steve.
I just looked at the swap in the GUI dashboard, only to find there isn't one showing on my Supermicro system. Did I miss a step or something?
[23.05.1-RELEASE][admin@Router-7.redacted.me]/root: swapinfo -h Device Size Used Avail Capacity/root: top last pid: 76190; load averages: 0.14, 0.12, 0.09 up 0+02:00:50 18:24:55 67 processes: 1 running, 66 sleeping CPU: 0.2% user, 0.0% nice, 0.1% system, 0.1% interrupt, 99.6% idle Mem: 139M Active, 391M Inact, 870M Wired, 56K Buf, 29G Free ARC: 223M Total, 39M MFU, 177M MRU, 622K Anon, 1091K Header, 5669K Other 164M Compressed, 419M Uncompressed, 2.56:1 Ratio PID USERNAME THR PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE C TIME WCPU COMMAND 34097 unbound 16 20 0 425M 316M kqread 3 0:51 3.03% unbound 36766 root 1 20 0 14M 3856K CPU6 6 0:00 0.21% topI don't recall setting a swap on my Netgate 6100 or on this machine. The 6100 shows a swap of 1024 MiB - never seen it used though.
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Mmm, yes by default the Plus installer sets 1G for swap. The CE installer at one time used half the RAM size by default if there was sufficient drive space. I'm not sure why yours you have none.
A 6100 here dumps ~750MB from the kernel when configured to do so but that's after running only a short time. If you can trigger this quickly on the 6100 it would be worth trying since the worst case is that it just fails to hold the dump and reboots. If you're not using the 6100 you can reinstall it and add more SWAP, I would expect 2GB to be more than enough.
Steve
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@stephenw10
UndergpartI can see 1.0G offreebsd-swap- is the value used by pfSense?[23.05.1-RELEASE][admin@Router-7.redacted.me]/root: gpart show => 40 231270320 nvd0 GPT (110G) 40 532480 1 efi (260M) 532520 1024 2 freebsd-boot (512K) 533544 984 - free - (492K) 534528 2097152 3 freebsd-swap (1.0G) 2631680 228636672 4 freebsd-zfs (109G) 231268352 2008 - free - (1.0M) [23.05.1-RELEASE][admin@Router-7.redacted.me]/root:It's still a bit odd for it to be missing from the GUI though.
I'm happy to use either the Netgate 6100 or the Supermicro (SYS-510D-8C-FN6P) for testing; so your choice with repeatability vs flexibility.
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@RobbieTT said in Wan periodic reset causes system reboot.:
I can see 1.0G of freebsd-swap - is the value used by pfSense?
See/etc/fstab
[23.05.1-RELEASE][root@pfSense.bhf.net]/root: cat /etc/fstab # Device Mountpoint FStype Options Dump Pass# /dev/gpt/efiboot0 /boot/efi msdosfs rw 0 0 /dev/nvd0p3 none swap sw 0 0When I got my 4100 (with pfSense 22.05 from back then ?), the swap line wasn't using "/dev/nvd0p3" but something else. The result : there was a swap partition but pfSense wasn't using it.
"nvd0p3" is my swap partition. I had to change that by editing /etc/fstab.
IFAIK : it was mentioning some disk ID, not the partition device name.If your system starts to use the swap, consider removing stuff, typically, when you use pfBlockerng, use less bigger DNS files ;)
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@Gertjan
I think that is my question, given thegpartabove, should/etc/fstabbe changed from/dev/nvd1p3to/dev/nvd0p3?My presumption is that pfSense uses the
freebsd-swapshown ingpartbut I am not certain or know why the install points to the wrong location.I don't think I am close to needing swap due to lack of RAM though:
This swap discussion is for kernel dumps, not day-to-day use.
[edit:] Changing to nvd0p3 and rebooting did indeed bring the GUI swap graph back:
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Nice. Also interesting.
Ok so set the line in /etc/pSense-ddb.conf. I used:
script kdb.enter.default=capture on; bt; show registers; show pcpu; capture off; dump; resetThen reboot to apply that.
I then tested it by running
sysctl debug.kdb.panic=1which immediately panics the box and runs the script. At the console you see:panic: kdb_sysctl_panic cpuid = 3 time = 1697460855 KDB: enter: panic [ thread pid 1455 tid 100508 ] Stopped at kdb_enter+0x32: movq $0,0x2344f43(%rip) db:0:kdb.enter.default> capture on db:0:kdb.enter.default> bt Tracing pid 1455 tid 100508 td 0xfffffe00b7ceaac0 kdb_enter() at kdb_enter+0x32/frame 0xfffffe00b13afa10 vpanic() at vpanic+0x163/frame 0xfffffe00b13afb40 panic() at panic+0x43/frame 0xfffffe00b13afba0 kdb_sysctl_panic() at kdb_sysctl_panic+0x61/frame 0xfffffe00b13afbd0 sysctl_root_handler_locked() at sysctl_root_handler_locked+0x90/frame 0xfffffe00b13afc20 sysctl_root() at sysctl_root+0x216/frame 0xfffffe00b13afca0 userland_sysctl() at userland_sysctl+0x176/frame 0xfffffe00b13afd50 sys___sysctl() at sys___sysctl+0x5c/frame 0xfffffe00b13afe00 amd64_syscall() at amd64_syscall+0x109/frame 0xfffffe00b13aff30 fast_syscall_common() at fast_syscall_common+0xf8/frame 0xfffffe00b13aff30 --- syscall (202, FreeBSD ELF64, __sysctl), rip = 0xb03aaf1e18a, rsp = 0xb03a86d9c88, rbp = 0xb03a86d9cc0 --- db:0:kdb.enter.default> show registers cs 0x20 ds 0x3b es 0x3b fs 0x13 gs 0x1b ss 0x28 rax 0x12 rcx 0xffffffff814589e2 rdx 0x3f8 rbx 0x100 rsp 0xfffffe00b13afa10 rbp 0xfffffe00b13afa10 rsi 0xc3b4cdc4 rdi 0x4 r8 0x7ac3b4cdc4 r9 0xfffffe00b7ceaac0 r10 0xfffffe00b13af8f0 r11 0xcedfc2df9afff59c r12 0 r13 0 r14 0xffffffff814b6685 r15 0xfffffe00b7ceaac0 rip 0xffffffff80d388c2 kdb_enter+0x32 rflags 0x86 kdb_enter+0x32: movq $0,0x2344f43(%rip) db:0:kdb.enter.default> show pcpu cpuid = 3 dynamic pcpu = 0xfffffe008efd7f00 curthread = 0xfffffe00b7ceaac0: pid 1455 tid 100508 critnest 1 "sysctl" curpcb = 0xfffffe00b7ceafe0 fpcurthread = 0xfffffe00b7ceaac0: pid 1455 "sysctl" idlethread = 0xfffffe0011fbde40: tid 100006 "idle: cpu3" self = 0xffffffff84013000 curpmap = 0xfffff8012468fd38 tssp = 0xffffffff84013384 rsp0 = 0xfffffe00b13b0000 kcr3 = 0xffffffffffffffff ucr3 = 0xffffffffffffffff scr3 = 0x0 gs32p = 0xffffffff84013404 ldt = 0xffffffff84013444 tss = 0xffffffff84013434 curvnet = 0xfffff80001203980 db:0:kdb.enter.default> capture off db:0:kdb.enter.default> dump Dumping 702 out of 8050 MB:..3%..12%..21%..32%..42%..51%..62%..71%..83%..92% Dump complete db:0:kdb.enter.default> reset Uptime: 3m30sAfter rebooting you should see the crash report in the gui with the vmcore offered to download.
If that's all working then delete that core and try to panic it by removing the interface again. Hopefully the core is not bigger than 1G if you can trigger it soon enough after boot.
Steve
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Thanks Steve - as the issue is intermittent for me I probably need more swap.Can I just boot from the USB installer and manually tweak the existing partitions using gpart delete / resize and whatever ZFS uses for regrow?
(It's been a long time since I have used partition commands but probably not much has changed over a couple of decades... other than my memory...)
Hmm, may be easier to get a new install USB but does it offer an option to set the swap partition size during the install (ie I don't remember one)?
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Yes, you can just set the size during the install:
