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    Wan periodic reset causes system reboot.

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    • stephenw10S
      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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      https://redmine.pfsense.org/issues/14431

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        AlexanderK @stephenw10
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        @stephenw10 installed 23.09 dev version.
        Resetting wan still resets device but will check again

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          AlexanderK @stephenw10
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          @stephenw10 found another way to trigger the issue.
          Status interface disconnect wan
          System reboots

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          • RobbieTTR
            RobbieTT @AlexanderK
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            @AlexanderK said in Wan periodic reset causes system reboot.:

            Status interface disconnect wan
            System reboots

            That applies to me too but around 50% of the time. My WAN is delivered by PPPoE so that difference may impact the rate of crashes / reboots.

            It is unfortunate that the issue impacts v23.09d.

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              AlexanderK
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              i will try to create a lab and reproduce the error. i will post progress

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                AlexanderK
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                anything new?
                tried to replicate issue at a lab but nothing happened.
                I am using my production network without ipv6

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                • stephenw10S
                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                  There have been some backend changes to our build system preventing new snaps for a few days. Let me check.....

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                  • stephenw10S
                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                    We are still digging into this. It looks like there may be several related issues here. The NDP issue being one of them.

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                    • RobbieTTR
                      RobbieTT @stephenw10
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                      @stephenw10 said in Wan periodic reset causes system reboot.:

                      We are still digging into this. It looks like there may be several related issues here. The NDP issue being one of them.

                      If the coding is not too complicated the understanding of this will wipe at least 3 bugs away. A 4th could be the unexplained DNS Resolver cache wipe following a pfBlocker cron-job. Seems you have more in mind though!

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                      • stephenw10S
                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                        Well I hope there's not more!

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                        • RobbieTTR
                          RobbieTT @stephenw10
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                          @stephenw10 said in Wan periodic reset causes system reboot.:

                          Well I hope there's not more!

                          Surely one fix that fixes many is better than chasing down all these individual bugs? Well, unless you are the one unpicking the code... 🤷

                          Will this work fold into v23.09 or is it too late for that?

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                          • stephenw10S
                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                            I hope that it will be 23.09. The ndp fix certainly will be. 🤞

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                              RobbieTT @stephenw10
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                              @stephenw10

                              Ok, sounds hopeful but I appreciate this discovery came very late in the .09 workflow.

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                                AlexanderK
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                                anything new on this issue?

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                                • stephenw10S
                                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                  last edited by

                                  Not yet. At least not as far as I know since we still have yet to replicate it locally. There are fixes for other things that could be interacting to cause this on some systems. If you're able to test a 23.09 snapshot and can repeatedly trigger this issue please do so.

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                                  • RobbieTTR
                                    RobbieTT @AlexanderK
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                                    @AlexanderK

                                    Still covered by this on redmine:

                                    Regression #14431

                                    No improvement yet on 23.09 dev and the issue is (probably) being pushed to 24.03, so another 6 months+ away.

                                    It's not ideal, I know. I'm looking for a non-pfSense option in the interim to cover the periods when I may not be around to resolve these crashes & reboots.

                                    In the meantime I've been pushing data at the Netgate team and running stuff whenever needed and trying every development load.

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                                      AlexanderK
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                                      anything on beta 23.09?

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                                      • RobbieTTR
                                        RobbieTT @AlexanderK
                                        last edited by RobbieTT

                                        @AlexanderK @stephenw10

                                        No, nothing substantive. Netgate did ask me to produce results with a modified kernel but the moving set of instructions left me in a bit of a hole with a router that should have been in production.

                                        I am building-up a new server with pfSense+ so I can test with more freedom but my testing hours with a live WAN are limited. I could do with more help really.

                                        It would really help if Netgate provided a complete version to test with, rather than being left to modify stuff myself in order to provide data for them. They expect quite a bit from a paying customer (although I acknowledge this would be different if they could replicate the issue on their own dev systems).

                                        Anyway, I remain committed and will still invest the time needed where I can.

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                                        • stephenw10S
                                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                          Yes, I'm sorry about that. Not being able to replicate it ourselves makes everything much more difficult. It's especially annoying here because I have essentially an identical setup to you. The only significant difference is the connection speed.

                                          We are working to add a coredump implementation in the gui to make this process much easier.

                                          In the mean time I'd be happy to work with you here if you're able to.

                                          If you're able to I would simply reinstall with a much larger SWAP size to avoid the need for an external drive with SWAP.

                                          Also one thing I didn't realise until I tested it was that changes to the pfSnse-ddb.conf file are read in a boot so the system needs to be rebooted normally to apply them before the panic is triggered.

                                          Steve

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                                            RobbieTT @stephenw10
                                            last edited by RobbieTT

                                            @stephenw10

                                            Clearly I am happy to work with you Steve. 👍

                                            I just looked at the swap in the GUI dashboard, only to find there isn't one showing on my Supermicro system. Did I miss a step or something?

                                            [23.05.1-RELEASE][admin@Router-7.redacted.me]/root: swapinfo -h
                                            Device              Size     Used    Avail Capacity
                                            
                                            /root: top
                                            
                                            last pid: 76190;  load averages:  0.14,  0.12,  0.09                      up 0+02:00:50  18:24:55
                                            67 processes:  1 running, 66 sleeping
                                            CPU:  0.2% user,  0.0% nice,  0.1% system,  0.1% interrupt, 99.6% idle
                                            Mem: 139M Active, 391M Inact, 870M Wired, 56K Buf, 29G Free
                                            ARC: 223M Total, 39M MFU, 177M MRU, 622K Anon, 1091K Header, 5669K Other
                                                 164M Compressed, 419M Uncompressed, 2.56:1 Ratio
                                            
                                              PID USERNAME    THR PRI NICE   SIZE    RES STATE    C   TIME    WCPU COMMAND
                                            34097 unbound      16  20    0   425M   316M kqread   3   0:51   3.03% unbound
                                            36766 root          1  20    0    14M  3856K CPU6     6   0:00   0.21% top
                                            

                                            I don't recall setting a swap on my Netgate 6100 or on this machine. The 6100 shows a swap of 1024 MiB - never seen it used though.

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