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    • dennypageD
      dennypage @endy66
      last edited by

      @endy66 That's what I thought.

      The short version is that you are wasting your time trying to set up a username/password for a remote HA client because the HA integration doesn't use it. You don't need to enter a username/password when you set up the integration.

      Since you asked, here's the longer version...

      You won't see a login from the integration because it isn't a NUT client, and doesn't actually send a LOGON command to upsd. The NUT HA integration doesn't even send the username and password for remote connections. And even if it did send the username/password, upsd would not attempt to validate it until a command (such as LOGON or an instant command) is sent by the client.

      NUT allows read-only access to ups information without a login which is how the HA integration is written. It connects every 60 seconds (default), polls current status, and disconnects. An actual NUT monitoring client is different. It connects, sends username and password, then issues a LOGIN command to attach to the UPS. It remains connected and polls the UPS on a frequent interval (usually less than 15 seconds).

      For upsd, the difference is significant. A logged in client is something that upsd is responsible for, and it will monitor the client connection and wait for the client to disconnect before initiating its own shutdown. A non logged in client is expected to be something like a web page. Information display only.

      I believe that the only time the username/password for HA NUT is used is if you are running the dedicated HA OS and want to be able to issue instant commands to the UPS. Entertainingly, even though it has not sent a LOGIN command, the HA integrations always sends a LOGOUT command before disconnecting from upsd. Very polite. 😊

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        endy66 @dennypage
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        @dennypage said in NUT Package (2.8.1 and above):

        @endy66 That's what I thought.

        The short version is that you are wasting your time trying to set up a username/password for a remote HA client because the HA integration doesn't use it. You don't need to enter a username/password when you set up the integration.

        Since you asked, here's the longer version...

        You won't see a login from the integration because it isn't a NUT client, and doesn't actually send a LOGON command to upsd. The NUT HA integration doesn't even send the username and password for remote connections. And even if it did send the username/password, upsd would not attempt to validate it until a command (such as LOGON or an instant command) is sent by the client.

        NUT allows read-only access to ups information without a login which is how the HA integration is written. It connects every 60 seconds (default), polls current status, and disconnects. An actual NUT monitoring client is different. It connects, sends username and password, then issues a LOGIN command to attach to the UPS. It remains connected and polls the UPS on a frequent interval (usually less than 15 seconds).

        For upsd, the difference is significant. A logged in client is something that upsd is responsible for, and it will monitor the client connection and wait for the client to disconnect before initiating its own shutdown. A non logged in client is expected to be something like a web page. Information display only.

        I believe that the only time the username/password for HA NUT is used is if you are running the dedicated HA OS and want to be able to issue instant commands to the UPS. Entertainingly, even though it has not sent a LOGIN command, the HA integrations always sends a LOGOUT command before disconnecting from upsd. Very polite. 😊

        Thank you so much for this detailed explanation! I didn't knew that there's such a difference or even that the HA integration isn't a "real" NUT client and it also works that different. Then I'll remove the second user from my pfSense.
        However the integration on HA still helps for notifying if there's a power outtage, even if it's not instant. The server where HA (a VM) runs on, has proper NUT integration (the first client), so it still can shut down properly. I just wondered what's going on as I haven't seen any "login" logs in the pfSense box. Now I know. Thanks again so much for your awesome support, appreciate it a lot!

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        • dennypageD
          dennypage @endy66
          last edited by

          @endy66 said in NUT Package (2.8.1 and above):

          Thank you so much for this detailed explanation!

          You're welcome.

          However the integration on HA still helps for notifying if there's a power outtage, even if it's not instant.

          Just FYI, HA may miss the power outage completely if it is shorter than the polling interval.

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            endy66 @dennypage
            last edited by

            @dennypage said in NUT Package (2.8.1 and above):

            Just FYI, HA may miss the power outage completely if it is shorter than the polling interval.

            That's true yes. I set up a delay of some seconds because I only need a notification if it's a real / longer power outage, otherwise my UPS will just kick in and since it has the capacity to provide power for almost an hour, it's okay to get the norification a bit delayed.

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            • dennypageD
              dennypage @endy66
              last edited by

              @endy66 Cool. Just wanted to make sure you were aware.

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                  incith
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                  I dunno what happened. I just updated to 2.8.2_1 and now my tripplite USB connection isn't working.

                  [nutdev1]
                  driver = "tripplite_usb"
                  port = "auto"
                  vendorid = "09AE"
                  productid = "0001"
                  product = "TRIPP LITE SMART500RT1U"
                  vendor = "Tripp Lite"
                  bus = "000"
                  device = "002"
                  busport = "005"
                  ###NOTMATCHED-YET###bcdDevice = "000A"

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                    DanBlackaz @incith
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                    @incith I just did the package upgrade and although the service appeared to be working, it wasn't.

                    I went to Services -> UPS and UPS Status brought up errors, but then I went to the "UPS Settings" tab and everything looked fine so just pressed Save at the bottom and service is running fine. Maybe try pressing the Save button from the settings page and see if this works for you?

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                    • GertjanG
                      Gertjan @dennypage
                      last edited by

                      @dennypage

                      NUT Package (2.8.1 and above)

                      and now its

                      NUT Package (2.8.1 and above - and back again)

                      as I received a message from my pfSense :

                      Notifications in this message: 1
================================

13:01:10 The following updates are available and can be installed using System > Package Manager:

nut: 2.8.2_1 ==> 2.8.2 (downgrade)

                      So the update is a downgrade ?

                      Or is 2.8.2 a more recent as 2.8.2_1 because the name (numbering) changed ?

                      No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                      Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                        ha11oga11o
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                        Hello all,

                        it seems i have new/old issues with nut 2.8.2_1 on 2.7.2-RELEASE (amd64)
                        I need to reload service to get it up again. Its on serial connection.
                        Can i do something about this?

                        Feb 9 22:20:41 	upsmon 	80900 	UPS RielloSEP2200: on bypass (powered, not protecting)
Feb 9 22:20:41 	upsmon 	80900 	Communications with UPS RielloSEP2200 established
Feb 9 22:20:38 	upsd 	73072 	Connected to UPS [RielloSEP2200]: riello_ser-RielloSEP2200
Feb 9 22:20:37 	riello_ser 	66770 	Startup successful
Feb 9 22:20:36 	upsmon 	80900 	Poll UPS [RielloSEP2200] failed - Driver not connected
Feb 9 22:20:31 	upsmon 	80900 	Poll UPS [RielloSEP2200] failed - Driver not connected
Feb 9 22:20:26 	upsmon 	80900 	UPS RielloSEP2200 is unavailable
Feb 9 22:20:26 	upsmon 	80900 	Poll UPS [RielloSEP2200] failed - Driver not connected
Feb 9 22:20:21 	upsmon 	80900 	Communications with UPS RielloSEP2200 lost
Feb 9 22:20:21 	upsmon 	80900 	Poll UPS [RielloSEP2200] failed - Driver not connected
Feb 9 22:20:21 	upsd 	73072 	User local-monitor@127.0.0.1 logged into UPS [RielloSEP2200]
Feb 9 22:20:21 	upsmon 	80419 	Startup successful
Feb 9 22:20:20 	upsd 	73072 	Startup successful
Feb 9 22:20:20 	upsd 	72610 	Found 1 UPS defined in ups.conf
Feb 9 22:20:20 	upsd 	72610 	Can't connect to UPS [RielloSEP2200] (riello_ser-RielloSEP2200): Connection refused
Feb 9 22:20:20 	upsd 	72610 	listening on ::1 port 3493
Feb 9 22:20:20 	upsd 	72610 	listening on 127.0.0.1 port 3493
Feb 9 22:20:20 	upsmon 	58399 	Signal 15: exiting
Feb 9 22:20:20 	upsmon 	58399 	UPS [RielloSEP2200]: connect failed: Connection failure: Connection refused
Feb 9 22:20:15 	upsmon 	58399 	UPS [RielloSEP2200]: connect failed: Connection failure: Connection refused
Feb 9 22:20:09 	upsmon 	58399 	UPS [RielloSEP2200]: connect failed: Connection failure: Connection refused
Feb 9 22:20:07 	php-fpm 	95968 	/pfblockerng/pfblockerng_update.php: Successful login for user 'admin' from: 192.168.1.210 (Local Database)
Feb 9 22:20:04 	upsmon 	58399 	UPS [RielloSEP2200]: connect failed: Connection failure: Connection refused
Feb 9 22:19:59 	upsmon 	58399 	UPS [RielloSEP2200]: connect failed: Connection failure: Connection refused
Feb 9 22:19:54 	upsmon 	58399 	UPS [RielloSEP2200]: connect failed: Connection failure: Connection refused
Feb 9 22:19:49 	upsmon 	58399 	UPS [RielloSEP2200]: connect failed: Connection failure: Connection refused
Feb 9 22:19:44 	upsmon 	58399 	UPS [RielloSEP2200]: connect failed: Connection failure: Connection refused
Feb 9 22:19:39 	upsmon 	58399 	UPS [RielloSEP2200]: connect failed: Connection failure: Connection refused
Feb 9 22:19:34 	upsmon 	58399 	UPS [RielloSEP2200]: connect failed: Connection failure: Connection refused
Feb 9 22:19:29 	upsmon 	58399 	UPS [RielloSEP2200]: connect failed: Connection failure: Connection refused
Feb 9 22:19:24 	upsmon 	58399 	UPS [RielloSEP2200]: connect failed: Connection failure: Connection refused
Feb 9 22:19:19 	upsmon 	58399 	UPS [RielloSEP2200]: connect failed: Connection failure: Connection refused
Feb 9 22:19:14 	upsmon 	58399 	UPS [RielloSEP2200]: connect failed: Connection failure: Connection refused
Feb 9 22:19:09 	upsmon 	58399 	UPS [RielloSEP2200]: connect failed: Connection failure: Connection refused
Feb 9 22:19:04 	upsmon 	58399 	UPS [RielloSEP2200]: connect failed: Connection failure: Connection refused
Feb 9 22:18:59 	upsmon 	58399 	UPS [RielloSEP2200]: connect failed: Connection failure: Connection refused
Feb 9 22:18:54 	upsmon 	58399 	UPS [RielloSEP2200]: connect failed: Connection failure: Connection refused
Feb 9 22:18:49 	upsmon 	58399 	UPS [RielloSEP2200]: connect failed: Connection failure: Connection refused
Feb 9 22:18:44 	upsmon 	58399 	UPS [RielloSEP2200]: connect failed: Connection failure: Connection refused
Feb 9 22:18:39 	upsmon 	58399 	UPS [RielloSEP2200]: connect failed: Connection failure: Connection refused
Feb 9 22:18:34 	upsmon 	58399 	UPS [RielloSEP2200]: connect failed: Connection failure: Connection refused
Feb 9 22:18:29 	upsmon 	58399 	UPS [RielloSEP2200]: connect failed: Connection failure: Connection refused
Feb 9 22:18:24 	upsmon 	58399 	UPS [RielloSEP2200]: connect failed: Connection failure: Connection refused
Feb 9 22:18:19 	upsmon 	58399 	UPS [RielloSEP2200]: connect failed: Connection failure: Connection refused
Feb 9 22:18:14 	upsmon 	58399 	UPS [RielloSEP2200]: connect failed: Connection failure: Connection refused
Feb 9 22:18:09 	upsmon 	58399 	UPS [RielloSEP2200]: connect failed: Connection failure: Connection refused
Feb 9 22:18:04 	upsmon 	58399 	UPS [RielloSEP2200]: connect failed: Connection failure: Connection refused
Feb 9 22:17:59 	upsmon 	58399 	UPS [RielloSEP2200]: connect failed: Connection failure: Connection refused
Feb 9 22:17:54 	upsmon 	58399 	UPS [RielloSEP2200]: connect failed: Connection failure: Connection refused
Feb 9 22:17:49 	upsmon 	58399 	UPS [RielloSEP2200]: connect failed: Connection failure: Connection refused
Feb 9 22:17:44 	upsmon 	58399 	UPS [RielloSEP2200]: connect failed: Connection failure: Connection refused
Feb 9 22:17:39 	upsmon 	58399 	UPS [RielloSEP2200]: connect failed: Connection failure: Connection refused
Feb 9 22:17:34 	upsmon 	58399 	UPS [RielloSEP2200]: connect failed: Connection failure: Connection refused
Feb 9 22:17:29 	upsmon 	58399 	UPS [RielloSEP2200]: connect failed: Connection failure: Connection refused
Feb 9 22:17:24 	upsmon 	58399 	UPS [RielloSEP2200]: connect failed: Connection failure: Connection refused
Feb 9 22:17:19 	upsmon 	58399 	UPS [RielloSEP2200]: connect failed: Connection failure: Connection refused
Feb 9 22:17:14 	upsmon 	58399 	UPS [RielloSEP2200]: connect failed: Connection failure: Connection refused
Feb 9 22:17:09 	upsmon 	58399 	UPS [RielloSEP2200]: connect failed: Connection failure: Connection refused
Feb 9 22:17:04 	upsmon 	58399 	UPS [RielloSEP2200]: connect failed: Connection failure: Connection refused
Feb 9 22:16:59 	upsmon 	58399 	UPS [RielloSEP2200]: connect failed: Connection failure: Connection refused
Feb 9 22:16:54 	upsmon 	58399 	UPS [RielloSEP2200]: connect failed: Connection failure: Connection refused
Feb 9 22:16:49 	upsmon 	58399 	UPS [RielloSEP2200]: connect failed: Connection failure: Connection refused
Feb 9 22:16:44 	upsmon 	58399 	UPS [RielloSEP2200]: connect failed: Connection failure: Connection refused
Feb 9 22:16:39 	upsmon 	58399 	UPS RielloSEP2200 is unavailable
Feb 9 22:16:39 	upsmon 	58399 	UPS [RielloSEP2200]: connect failed: Connection failure: Connection refused
Feb 9 22:16:34 	upsmon 	58399 	UPS [RielloSEP2200]: connect failed: Connection failure: Connection refused
Feb 9 22:16:29 	upsmon 	58399 	UPS [RielloSEP2200]: connect failed: Connection failure: Connection refused
Feb 9 22:16:23 	upsmon 	58399 	UPS [RielloSEP2200]: connect failed: Connection failure: Connection refused
Feb 9 22:16:18 	upsmon 	58399 	UPS [RielloSEP2200]: connect failed: Connection failure: Connection refused
Feb 9 22:16:13 	upsmon 	58399 	UPS [RielloSEP2200]: connect failed: Connection failure: Connection refused
Feb 9 22:16:08 	upsmon 	58399 	UPS [RielloSEP2200]: connect failed: Connection failure: Connection refused
Feb 9 22:16:03 	upsmon 	58399 	UPS [RielloSEP2200]: connect failed: Connection failure: Connection refused
Feb 9 22:15:58 	upsmon 	58399 	UPS [RielloSEP2200]: connect failed: Connection failure: Connection refused
Feb 9 22:15:53 	upsmon 	58399 	UPS [RielloSEP2200]: connect failed: Connection failure: Connection refused
Feb 9 22:15:48 	upsmon 	58399 	UPS [RielloSEP2200]: connect failed: Connection failure: Connection refused
Feb 9 22:15:43 	upsmon 	58399 	UPS [RielloSEP2200]: connect failed: Connection failure: Connection refused
Feb 9 22:15:38 	upsmon 	58399 	UPS [RielloSEP2200]: connect failed: Connection failure: Connection refused
Feb 9 22:15:33 	upsmon 	58399 	UPS [RielloSEP2200]: connect failed: Connection failure: Connection refused
Feb 9 22:15:28 	upsmon 	58399 	UPS [RielloSEP2200]: connect failed: Connection failure: Connection refused
Feb 9 22:15:23 	upsmon 	58399 	UPS [RielloSEP2200]: connect failed: Connection failure: Connection refused
Feb 9 22:15:18 	upsmon 	58399 	UPS [RielloSEP2200]: connect failed: Connection failure: Connection refused
Feb 9 22:15:13 	upsmon 	58399 	UPS [RielloSEP2200]: connect failed: Connection failure: Connection refused
Feb 9 22:15:08 	upsmon 	58399 	UPS [RielloSEP2200]: connect failed: Connection failure: Connection refused
Feb 9 22:15:03 	upsmon 	58399 	UPS [RielloSEP2200]: connect failed: Connection failure: Connection refused
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                          hspindel
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                          Not sure if this is a reasonable forum to post this in, but maybe somebody has a helpful idea.

                          I have NUT 2.8.2.1 installed on pfSense+ (Netgate 8200).

                          I have three Synology units in my network. Two DS120j and one DS1522. Both of the DS120j can see the NUT server and configure it. The DS1522 just reports "No UPS is connected." Settings are identical in all Synology. I have tried disabling the firewall in the DS1522 (although the DS120j are happy with firewall enabled).

                          Any suggestions on what to look for?

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                          • dennypageD
                            dennypage
                            last edited by

                            Hey all,

                            Sorry, but I am out of the loop with whatever change just happened. I tried to get the update locked in before my trip, but it didn’t happen. I won’t be able to work on an update until the week of the 19th.

                            In the interim, if you have an outstanding issue I suggest looking earlier in this thread for executables that I posted several weeks ago.

                            Again, sorry for the upheaval.

                            Denny

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                              incith @dennypage
                              last edited by incith

                              @dennypage when I try to service nut onestart..

                              I tried chmod everything to 0777

                              Network UPS Tools - UPS driver controller 2.8.1.1
                              Network UPS Tools - Tripp Lite OMNIVS / SMARTPRO driver 0.35 (2.8.1.1)
                              Warning: This is an experimental driver.
                              Some features may not function correctly.

                              libusb1: Could not open any HID devices: insufficient permissions on everything
                              No matching USB/HID UPS found
                              upsnotify: failed to notify about state 4: no notification tech defined, will not spam more about it
                              Driver failed to start (exit status=1)
                              /usr/local/etc/rc.d/nut: WARNING: failed precmd routine for nut

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                              • dennypageD
                                dennypage
                                last edited by

                                Quick note: Based on a notice I just received from my own firewall, it might be worthwhile to thy

                                pkg upgrade

                                from the command line and then re-save the config.

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                                  hspindel @hspindel
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                                  @hspindel said in NUT Package (2.8.1 and above):

                                  Not sure if this is a reasonable forum to post this in, but maybe somebody has a helpful idea.

                                  I have NUT 2.8.2.1 installed on pfSense+ (Netgate 8200).

                                  I have three Synology units in my network. Two DS120j and one DS1522. Both of the DS120j can see the NUT server and configure it. The DS1522 just reports "No UPS is connected." Settings are identical in all Synology. I have tried disabling the firewall in the DS1522 (although the DS120j are happy with firewall enabled).

                                  Any suggestions on what to look for?

                                  I have some additional clues:

                                  upsc NUTIP returns Connection Refused on DS1522, returns correct status on other Synologies.

                                  telnet NUTIP 3493 returns Connection Refused on DS1522, connects to NUT server from any other computer on the network.

                                  It appears to me that this is not an issue with pfSense (on which the NUT server is running) since it works for every device except the DS1522. I tried adding a special firewall rule to pfSense, but it made no difference. My guess is something is wrong with the DS1522's request.

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                                    incith
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                                    curl -O https://pkg01-atx.netgate.com/pfSense_v2_7_1_amd64-pfSense_v2_7_1/All/pfSense-pkg-nut-2.8.2.pkg

curl -O https://pkg01-atx.netgate.com/pfSense_v2_7_1_amd64-pfSense_v2_7_1/All/nut-devel-2023.10.07_1.pkg

pkg install -f ./nut-devel-2023.10.07_1.pkg
pkg install -f ./pfSense-pkg-nut-2.8.2.pkg

                                    You may just need nut-devel...I did both. UPS is back online.

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                                      incith @incith
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                                      @incith said in NUT Package (2.8.1 and above):

                                      curl -O https://pkg01-atx.netgate.com/pfSense_v2_7_1_amd64-pfSense_v2_7_1/All/pfSense-pkg-nut-2.8.2.pkg

curl -O https://pkg01-atx.netgate.com/pfSense_v2_7_1_amd64-pfSense_v2_7_1/All/nut-devel-2023.10.07_1.pkg

pkg install -f ./nut-devel-2023.10.07_1.pkg
pkg install -f ./pfSense-pkg-nut-2.8.2.pkg

                                      You may just need nut-devel...I did both. UPS is back online.

                                      Update/Edit: noticing that nut is not listed in my Package manager after this. May need to just do a pkg remove pfSense-pkg-nut nut-devel in a few weeks once a fix is posted. Not sure honestly.

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                                      • dennypageD
                                        dennypage
                                        last edited by

                                        @incith, @LanterIT, @ha11oga11o

                                        If you are still having a problem with the current package, can you post your configs please?

                                        Also, can you please confirm that you performed the

                                        pkg upgrade

                                        step mentioned above?

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                                        • dennypageD
                                          dennypage @incith
                                          last edited by

                                          @incith said in NUT Package (2.8.1 and above):

                                          libusb1: Could not open any HID devices: insufficient permissions on everything
                                          No matching USB/HID UPS found

                                          This indicates that the USB device could not be opened.

                                          Did you say if you are running as root?
                                          Also, have you checked to see if there is a quirk registered for your UPS?

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                                            apremselaar @dennypage
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                                            @dennypage I have the same symptoms with the tripplite_usb driver.
                                            I have a quirk registered and "user=root" in the config file.

                                            it worked without issue with version 2.8.2 and stopped working with 2.8.2_1 (as previously reported by others)

                                            I've tried unplugging the UPS' USB cable and plugging it back in. I've tried manually loading the driver as the root user, the netgate (in my case the 4100) recognizes that the UPS is connected and on ugen0.2

                                            I haven't attempted a downgrade yet to get it working again, I've just stopped the NUT daemon for now but I would like for this to be working again.

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