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    PPPoE WAN does not restart correctly after reconfiguring interfaces.

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      pFence @stephenw10
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      @stephenw10 said in PPPoE WAN does not restart correctly after reconfiguring interfaces.:

      With the other WAN disabled for v6 does the mpd process finish without that min wait?

      Seems so. See attached log file:
      PPPoE not failing.txt

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      • stephenw10S
        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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        Hmm, yeah 2.5s vs 2.5mins! Interestng.

        Can I assume you don't have Multilink extensions enabled?

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          pFence
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          "Multilink extensions over single link" is not enabled.

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            pFence
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            It seems that after upgrading to version 24.03 the PPPoE fails only exactly after every other periodic reset or manual interface reload while there is a DHCP6 configuration on the other WAN interface. This leads to the question whether the issue is related to one of the files changed for that upgrade. I am puzzled.

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            • stephenw10S
              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
              last edited by

              Hmm, interesting. Unexpected!

              How does the logging differ between the two resets?

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              • RobbieTTR
                RobbieTT @stephenw10
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                @stephenw10

                Hi Steve, I didn't particularly want to add additional noise to this thread but I also have the occasional hiccup when taking the PPPoE WAN down and back up again.

                Since the changes in 24.03 these are of a lower order of magnitude than previously they do still happen. Whilst I could not grab a log and point at it is my sense that this only happens when bringing the PPPoE WAN up now (since the changes) rather than both down and up.

                I've not been doing any true controlled testing (due to the cloud hanging over those of us willing to test betas but likely to be billed for it in the near future) but the changes have made a considerable difference to both my Netgate and non-Netgate hardware.

                However, they do still happen and when they do they can be oddly successive when they do happen, which causes considerable frustration. Other times I can go through multiple WAN down/up commands and have no issue at all.

                Regards
                ☕️

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                • stephenw10S
                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                  Hmm, well if you can grab any logs to compare that may help here.

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                    pFence
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                    Here's a log including both the successful interface reset as well as the one with failing PPPoE (pfsense 24.03).
                    PPPoE not failing and failing v24.03.txt

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                    • stephenw10S
                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                      Hmm, are you sure you didn't label those the wrong way around? The first log looks like a failure and the second a success.

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                        pFence
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                        Yes, of course the labels should be swapped.

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                          pFence @pFence
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                          @stephenw10
                          Have you been able to dig into this?
                          It seems one of the changes made to version 24.03 was Revision 30d46b63. Since the behaviour changed with 24.03, the fault might be related to one of the files touched in that change.

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                            pFence @pFence
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                            @stephenw10
                            Have you passed this on to the developers or do I need to somehow open a bug on Redmine?

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                            • stephenw10S
                              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                              Mmm, checking what happened here...

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                                Malec
                                last edited by Malec

                                After Update to 24.03 i have the same issue. Every night my ISP forces a reset and every night my PPPOE (Netgate 4100) will not reconnect. This is really frustrating:

                                °PPPOE Log°(Sep 15 03:20:01 ppp 48609 Multi-link PPP daemon for FreeBSD
                                Sep 15 03:20:01 ppp 48609 process 48609 started, version 5.9
                                Sep 15 03:20:01 ppp 4389 caught fatal signal TERM
                                Sep 15 03:20:01 ppp 4389 [wan] IFACE: Close event
                                Sep 15 03:20:01 ppp 4389 [wan] IPCP: Close event
                                Sep 15 03:20:01 ppp 4389 [wan] IPCP: state change Opened --> Closing
                                Sep 15 03:20:01 ppp 4389 [wan] IPCP: SendTerminateReq #4
                                Sep 15 03:20:01 ppp 4389 [wan] IPCP: LayerDown
                                Sep 15 03:20:01 ppp 48609 waiting for process 4389 to die...
                                Sep 15 03:20:01 ppp 4389 [wan] IFACE: Removing IPv4 address from pppoe0 failed(IGNORING for now. This should be only for PPPoE friendly!): Can't assign requested address
                                Sep 15 03:20:01 ppp 4389 [wan] IPV6CP: Close event
                                Sep 15 03:20:01 ppp 4389 [wan] IPV6CP: state change Opened --> Closing
                                Sep 15 03:20:01 ppp 4389 [wan] IPV6CP: SendTerminateReq #2
                                Sep 15 03:20:01 ppp 4389 [wan] IPV6CP: LayerDown
                                Sep 15 03:20:02 ppp 48609 waiting for process 4389 to die...
                                Sep 15 03:20:03 ppp 48609 waiting for process 4389 to die...
                                Sep 15 03:20:04 ppp 48609 waiting for process 4389 to die...
                                Sep 15 03:20:05 ppp 48609 waiting for process 4389 to die...
                                Sep 15 03:20:06 ppp 48609 waiting for process 4389 to die...
                                Sep 15 03:20:07 ppp 48609 waiting for process 4389 to die...
                                Sep 15 03:20:08 ppp 48609 waiting for process 4389 to die...
                                Sep 15 03:20:09 ppp 48609 waiting for process 4389 to die...
                                Sep 15 03:20:10 ppp 48609 waiting for process 4389 to die...
                                Sep 15 03:20:11 ppp 48609 waiting for process 4389 to die...
                                Sep 15 03:20:12 ppp 48609 waiting for process 4389 to die...
                                Sep 15 03:20:13 ppp 48609 waiting for process 4389 to die...
                                Sep 15 03:20:14 ppp 48609 waiting for process 4389 to die...
                                Sep 15 03:20:15 ppp 48609 waiting for process 4389 to die...
                                Sep 15 03:20:16 ppp 48609 waiting for process 4389 to die...
                                Sep 15 03:20:17 ppp 48609 waiting for process 4389 to die...
                                Sep 15 03:20:18 ppp 48609 waiting for process 4389 to die...
                                Sep 15 03:20:19 ppp 48609 waiting for process 4389 to die...
                                Sep 15 03:20:20 ppp 48609 waiting for process 4389 to die...
                                Sep 15 03:20:21 ppp 48609 waiting for process 4389 to die...
                                Sep 15 03:20:22 ppp 48609 waiting for process 4389 to die...
                                Sep 15 03:20:23 ppp 48609 waiting for process 4389 to die...
                                Sep 15 03:20:24 ppp 48609 waiting for process 4389 to die...
                                Sep 15 03:20:25 ppp 48609 waiting for process 4389 to die...
                                Sep 15 03:20:26 ppp 48609 waiting for process 4389 to die...
                                Sep 15 03:20:27 ppp 48609 waiting for process 4389 to die...
                                Sep 15 03:20:28 ppp 48609 waiting for process 4389 to die...
                                Sep 15 03:20:29 ppp 48609 waiting for process 4389 to die...
                                Sep 15 03:20:30 ppp 48609 waiting for process 4389 to die...
                                Sep 15 03:20:31 ppp 48609 can't lock /var/run/pppoe_wan.pid after 30 attempts
                                Sep 15 03:20:52 ppp 4389 [wan] IFACE: Down event
                                Sep 15 03:20:52 ppp 4389 [wan] IFACE: Rename interface pppoe0 to pppoe0
                                Sep 15 03:20:52 ppp 4389 [wan] IFACE: Set description "WAN"
                                Sep 15 03:20:52 ppp 4389 [wan] IPV6CP: SendTerminateReq #3
                                Sep 15 03:20:52 ppp 4389 [wan] IPCP: SendTerminateReq #5
                                Sep 15 03:20:52 ppp 4389 [wan] IPCP: rec'd Terminate Ack #4 (Closing)
                                Sep 15 03:20:52 ppp 4389 [wan] IPCP: state change Closing --> Closed
                                Sep 15 03:20:52 ppp 4389 [wan] IPCP: LayerFinish
                                Sep 15 03:20:52 ppp 4389 [wan] IPV6CP: rec'd Terminate Ack #2 (Closing)
                                Sep 15 03:20:52 ppp 4389 [wan] IPV6CP: state change Closing --> Closed
                                Sep 15 03:20:52 ppp 4389 [wan] IPV6CP: LayerFinish
                                Sep 15 03:20:52 ppp 4389 [wan] Bundle: No NCPs left. Closing links...
                                Sep 15 03:20:52 ppp 4389 [wan] Bundle: closing link "wan_link0"...
                                Sep 15 03:20:52 ppp 4389 [wan_link0] LCP: rec'd Terminate Request #3 (Opened)
                                Sep 15 03:20:52 ppp 4389 [wan_link0] LCP: state change Opened --> Stopping
                                Sep 15 03:20:52 ppp 4389 [wan_link0] Link: Leave bundle "wan"
                                Sep 15 03:20:52 ppp 4389 [wan] Bundle: Status update: up 0 links, total bandwidth 9600 bps
                                Sep 15 03:20:52 ppp 4389 [wan] IPCP: Close event
                                Sep 15 03:20:52 ppp 4389 [wan] IPV6CP: Close event
                                Sep 15 03:20:52 ppp 4389 [wan] IPCP: Down event
                                Sep 15 03:20:52 ppp 4389 [wan] IPCP: state change Closed --> Initial
                                Sep 15 03:20:52 ppp 4389 [wan] IPV6CP: Down event
                                Sep 15 03:20:52 ppp 4389 [wan] IPV6CP: state change Closed --> Initial
                                Sep 15 03:20:52 ppp 4389 [wan_link0] LCP: SendTerminateAck #4
                                Sep 15 03:20:52 ppp 4389 [wan_link0] LCP: LayerDown
                                Sep 15 03:20:52 ppp 4389 [wan_link0] PPPoE: connection closed
                                Sep 15 03:20:52 ppp 4389 [wan_link0] Link: DOWN event
                                Sep 15 03:20:52 ppp 4389 [wan_link0] Link: giving up after 0 reconnection attempts
                                Sep 15 03:20:52 ppp 4389 [wan_link0] LCP: Close event
                                Sep 15 03:20:52 ppp 4389 [wan_link0] LCP: state change Stopping --> Closing
                                Sep 15 03:20:52 ppp 4389 [wan_link0] LCP: Down event
                                Sep 15 03:20:52 ppp 4389 [wan_link0] LCP: LayerFinish
                                Sep 15 03:20:52 ppp 4389 [wan_link0] LCP: state change Closing --> Initial
                                Sep 15 03:20:52 ppp 4389 [wan_link0] Link: CLOSE event
                                Sep 15 03:20:52 ppp 4389 [wan_link0] LCP: Close event
                                Sep 15 03:20:54 ppp 4389 [wan] Bundle: Shutdown
                                Sep 15 03:20:54 ppp 4389 [wan_link0] Link: Shutdown
                                Sep 15 03:20:54 ppp 4389 process 4389 terminated)

                                I have to downgrade to an older Version of Pfsense as i only have this problem with 24.03.

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                                  w0w @Malec
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                                  @Malec
                                  Same for me.
                                  I still encounter a race condition that causes mpd to start twice and get stuck, but I wrote my own script as a workaround. Not sure what the real status of the problem is. Still waiting for development snapshots available to re-test.

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                                  • stephenw10S
                                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                    @w0w Were you able to test with the older 24.08 public snapshot?

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                                      w0w @stephenw10
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                                      @stephenw10
                                      Yes, it is my current snapshot, so the problem remains the same.
                                      However, I should point out that my configuration is far from standard. I also use CARP for failover, VIP addresses on a PPPoE parent interface, and much more, which is why I don’t want to file a bug report prematurely. Additionally, there is hope that something may have changed in the newer code.

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                                      • stephenw10S
                                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                        Hmm, OK. Well with any luck we should have a new Plus dev snapshot very soon so hopefully you can test that and at least confirm if the issue still exists. Though there is a lot of new stuff so I anticipate some issues initially. 🤞

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                                          w0w @stephenw10
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                                          @stephenw10
                                          Unfortunately, yes, the issue still exists.
                                          I am using an unsupported CARP configuration to maintain PPPoE links automatically. There are two firewalls, and the parent PPPoE interfaces on both are configured with static local IP addresses like 10.0.111.2 and 10.0.111.3, with a VIP in CARP mode set to 10.0.111.1. The primary idea is that the master firewall automatically establishes the PPPoE link when it becomes the master. This part works fine. The problem occurs when I unplug the power cable from the ISP’s dumb switch, and it always results in two mpd daemons running simultaneously.

                                          pppoe.txt

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                                          • stephenw10S
                                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                            Urgh, that's in the new 24.08 snapshot?

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