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KEA DHCP missing "Register DHCP leases in DNS Resolver..."

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    jkiel @cmcdonald
    last edited by jkiel Sep 24, 2024, 7:40 PM Sep 24, 2024, 7:38 PM

    @cmcdonald said in KEA DHCP missing "Register DHCP leases in DNS Resolver...":

    That's fair. The current warning definitely has a "the sky is falling" tone to it, which it certainly isn't.

    This. 100% this. The warning gives the impression that one should update ASAP and gives zero indication that the replacement isn't feature complete.

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      softwareplumber
      last edited by Oct 30, 2024, 9:15 PM

      Still an issue.

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        SteveITS Galactic Empire @softwareplumber
        last edited by Oct 30, 2024, 10:05 PM

        @softwareplumber said in KEA DHCP missing "Register DHCP leases in DNS Resolver...":

        Still an issue.

        https://www.netgate.com/blog/improvements-to-kea-dhcp

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          uneventfullogs
          last edited by Nov 4, 2024, 11:06 PM

          There is no longer a way to revert back in the GUI, so my setup is broken.

          It should not have been released without better migration testing.

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            juanzelli @uneventfullogs
            last edited by juanzelli Nov 4, 2024, 11:22 PM Nov 4, 2024, 11:20 PM

            @uneventfullogs I believe you should be able to revert in System->Advanced->Networking. At least, that's where I've been able to do it in the past.

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              BruceX @noloader
              last edited by Dec 8, 2024, 4:07 AM

              @noloader Thanks, just got bit by this and lost a day trying to figure out why a local server's new IP wasn't being recognized. I finally restarted the dns forwarder (to pihole) and I lost everything (local names) and my day trying to track down "what I did" before remembering yesterday I had responded to the deprecation warning.

              It is now a year later and this problem persists. This is my wake up call to switch to the other guy sometime this coming year.

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                4o4rh @BruceX
                last edited by Dec 8, 2024, 8:17 AM

                @BruceX I switched to kea after the 24.11 upgrade and don't have any problems. Before I had to revert to ISC per above.

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                  BruceX @4o4rh
                  last edited by Dec 9, 2024, 2:07 AM

                  @4o4rh I've not used the patches package before but I interpret your statement as applying these patches also fixes this dns not registering problem.

                  I'll have to wait awhile before having the courage to apply these after the last 'fix' I applied lost me a few days to debugging and fixing my system.

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                    pvk1 @BruceX
                    last edited by Dec 9, 2024, 8:11 AM

                    @BruceX I have now enabled the KEA DHCP server. On settings I checked both "Enable DNS registration" en "Enable early DNS registration". All seems to work now. The only thing is you still need to provide an IP address of the NTP server rather than a domain name.

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                      4o4rh @pvk1
                      last edited by Dec 9, 2024, 12:33 PM

                      @pvk1 do you mean in the ntp server? i don't have this problem. I am using normal country level ntp pools

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                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @pvk1
                        last edited by Dec 9, 2024, 12:34 PM

                        @pvk1 said in KEA DHCP missing "Register DHCP leases in DNS Resolver...":

                        provide an IP address of the NTP server rather than a domain name.

                        Which is how it should be per the rfc.. dhcp doesn't hand the client a fqdn for ntp - it hands out an IP.

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                          4o4rh @johnpoz
                          last edited by Dec 9, 2024, 12:45 PM

                          @johnpoz I must be understanding something different from the statement.
                          In my NTP Server settings, I use de.pool.ntp.org and it works fine.

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                            Gertjan @4o4rh
                            last edited by Gertjan Dec 9, 2024, 12:52 PM Dec 9, 2024, 12:51 PM

                            @4o4rh said in KEA DHCP missing "Register DHCP leases in DNS Resolver...":

                            In my NTP Server settings, I use de.pool.ntp.org and it works fine.

                            That's the NTP server process. It uses the WAN side.

                            Here this :

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                            which has 'nothing' to do with the NTP DHCP server setting (the DJCP server operates on the LAN side of pfSense). The DHCP server can inform the DHCP clients of a known (local) NTP server, like pfSense, as it has a NTP server on board.
                            This DHCP (kea or ISC) 'NTP setting' needs to be an IP, and is typicality the pfSense LAN IP.

                            Example :

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                            No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                            Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Gertjan
                              last edited by Dec 9, 2024, 1:10 PM

                              ^exactly - pfsense allowed you to put in a fqdn for the dhcp server settings before. They would just translate that to an IP for dhcp settings. They should either modify the note below the box, or allow for fqdn (that they translate for you).. But fqdn is a bad idea because something like something.pool.ntp.org can resolve to lots of different IPs - that change, and pool members come and go so if they hand out IP X, tomorrow maybe that IP is no longer valid, etc

                              It really was never a good idea to allow users to put in fqdn for the dhcp server ntp it hands out.

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                                4o4rh @Gertjan
                                last edited by Dec 9, 2024, 1:40 PM

                                @Gertjan ah ok. my clients take ntp from pfsense. that's why i don't run into this problem then.

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                                  pvk1 @4o4rh
                                  last edited by Dec 9, 2024, 2:02 PM

                                  @4o4rh said in KEA DHCP missing "Register DHCP leases in DNS Resolver...":

                                  @pvk1 do you mean in the ntp server? i don't have this problem. I am using normal country level ntp pools

                                  I mentioned it because the DHCP server did not run when I migrated it the first time. It did not give an error.

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                                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @pvk1
                                    last edited by Dec 9, 2024, 2:53 PM

                                    @pvk1 yeah I think there is/was an issue with kea if you had fqdn for ntp before, that it would just not run.

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                                      Gertjan @johnpoz
                                      last edited by Dec 9, 2024, 2:57 PM

                                      @johnpoz said in KEA DHCP missing "Register DHCP leases in DNS Resolver...":

                                      that it would just not run.

                                      Exact.
                                      If I do this :

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                                      and then I save :

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                                      I see a big red error message :

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                                      telling me that a host name is a no go.

                                      Still, the tooltip told me :

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                                      😊

                                      No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                                      Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Gertjan
                                        last edited by Dec 9, 2024, 4:09 PM

                                        @Gertjan yeah this is the confusing part for some users

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                                        Maybe that should of never been an option, since dhcp can never use it - but pfsense was doing some magic in the background to convert the fqdn you put in to an IP.. Which guess is ok if the ntp server only has 1 IP, etc.. But with a pool address which is very dynamic and pool membership is very fluid - since its really just users that add their server to the pool, these change all the time..

                                        So in hindsight (which is always 20/20) allowing for fqdn prob not the best choice.

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                                          clawsonn @Slowmotion 0
                                          last edited by clawsonn Dec 10, 2024, 3:08 AM Dec 10, 2024, 3:04 AM

                                          @Slowmotion-0 said in KEA DHCP missing "Register DHCP leases in DNS Resolver...":

                                          As of this moment (Feb-2024), besides the static IP mapping approach, is there any other trick we can do to inject the KEA DHCP leases into DNS Resolver?

                                          What is the KEA trick with static IP mapping approach?
                                          I have a machine with 2.7.2 running KEA and dns resolver does not resolve any hostnames that are acquired from dhcp or hostnames that are DHCP static reservation ip mapped.

                                          I read most the posts and appears that 24.11 PLUS has returned with this feature but my machine is CE not PLUS https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/releases/24-11.html "This release includes support for DNS Registration of DHCP client hostnames from the Kea DHCP daemon to the Unbound DNS Resolver"

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