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    • JonathanLeeJ
      JonathanLee
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      Hello with the eventuality for California to stop doing daylight savings how will that affect users that use NTP over authentication to NIST servers?

      Will we manually adjust back one hour?

      Soon California will remove daylight savings forever. Our state is a direct democracy and we recently voted to have daylight savings done away with forever.

      Against, everyone is dragging their feet.

      For our NTP servers I do not see a daylight savings removal setting

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      • NollipfSenseN
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        @JonathanLee I believe that they're doing away with the need to keep changing the clock and make what would be daylight saving time actually the standard time...that's what my state adopted.

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        • johnpozJ
          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @NollipfSense
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          yeah "ntp" itself has little care to what the timezone is.. Be it standard, or daylight savings.. That would be up to the OS itself to know how much to change the ntp time because of what zone the client is in.

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          • stephenw10S
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            I would expect a timezone data update to take care of that.

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            • JonathanLeeJ
              JonathanLee
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              I think when we lived in Chicago they used city time zones so traffic flowed better 10-15 mins in different areas. Our work phones from other people that worked with me were off 5-15 mins when downtown.

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              • dennypageD
                dennypage @JonathanLee
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                @JonathanLee said in California and standard time:

                Soon California will remove daylight savings forever. Our state is a direct democracy and we recently voted to have daylight savings done away with forever.

                The California proposition vote was actually to allow the legislature to vote to change the start/stop dates of daylight savings time, with the intent to support a move to daylight savings time year-around. There were two subsequent requirements in the proposition: 1) The legislature must vote with 2/3 majority to make the change; 2) It must be permitted by federal law.

                Federal law allows states to ignore daylight savings time and stay on standard time year-around, but it does not currently allow states to use a daylight savings time schedule other than the schedule set forward by the federal government. In other words, using daylight savings time year-around is not allowed. Until such time as federal law changes, California's legislature can do nothing.

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                  mer @dennypage
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                  @dennypage But if they set start date to 1 jan and end date to 31 dec they sidestep the "law"

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                  • dennypageD
                    dennypage @mer
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                    @mer said in California and standard time:

                    But if they set start date to 1 jan and end date to 31 dec they sidestep the "law"

                    Nope. If a state uses any form of daylight savings time, they have to use the date schedule set forth by federal law. Originally states had the right to set their own schedules, but that was done away with in the Uniform Time Act. The only way around this is to use standard time year-around like Arizona and Hawaii.

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