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    SG-1100 installing 24.03 via USB issue

    Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Problems Installing or Upgrading pfSense Software
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      gabric098
      last edited by

      After trying the standard upgrade procedure using the web GUI, which failed, I contacted support to obtain the firmware image of pfsense 24.03.
      Unfortunately I cannot use netinstall since it's not compatible with PPPoE connections (like mine).
      Support sends me a file called pfSense-plus-compat-recovery-24.03-RELEASE-aarch64.img.gz and I follow the steps described in the tutorial:

      • flash the image on usb drive
      • create config.xml backup, add it to the drive
      • shutdown pfSense, insert the USB and power cycle the device.
      • I stop the normal boot and I type run usbrecovery
        All goes smooth, I can see the SG1100 being flashed, eventually the installer asks to power cycle the SG1100.
        At that point I leave the usb key plugged in. (as I have the config.xml still to restore) and I power cycle the device.
        The reboot happens, the configuration is restored, but I still get the old 23.09.1-RELEASE version.

      Note that I don't see any failure message during the process, everything goes smooth.

      Any ideas?

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        SteveITS Galactic Empire @gabric098
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        @gabric098 if you create a file on disk, and reboot, does it still exist after the reboot?

        Pre-2.7.2/23.09: Only install packages for your version, or risk breaking it. Select your branch in System/Update/Update Settings.
        When upgrading, allow 10-15 minutes to restart, or more depending on packages and device speed.
        Upvote 👍 helpful posts!

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          gabric098 @SteveITS
          last edited by

          Hi @SteveITS ,
          thank you for the reply.
          I just tried it, and the answer is no, the file disappears after reboot, and also the settings are reset, for example I enabled SSH access to create the file but after the reboot, SSH access was disabled.

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            SteveITS Galactic Empire @gabric098
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            @gabric098 It would seem your storage has gone read only.

            FWIW here is a test:
            https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/troubleshooting/disk-lifetime.html#emmc

            You can install pfSense to USB, see this thread for the same issue:
            https://forum.netgate.com/topic/187951/sg-1100-update-from-23-09-1-to-24-03-keeps-failing/57

            Were you using any of the "SSD recommended" packages here?
            https://www.netgate.com/supported-pfsense-plus-packages

            Pre-2.7.2/23.09: Only install packages for your version, or risk breaking it. Select your branch in System/Update/Update Settings.
            When upgrading, allow 10-15 minutes to restart, or more depending on packages and device speed.
            Upvote 👍 helpful posts!

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              gabric098 @SteveITS
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              @SteveITS

              I'm not sure how to interpret the data returned by the mmc extcsd read /dev/mmcsd0rpmb command. I definitely don't get anything if I egrep 'LIFE|EOL' the command. This is the whole output:

              =============================================
  Extended CSD rev 1.6 (MMC 4.5)
=============================================

Card Supported Command sets [S_CMD_SET: 0x01]
HPI Features [HPI_FEATURE: 0x01]: implementation based on CMD13
Background operations support [BKOPS_SUPPORT: 0x01]
Max Packet Read Cmd [MAX_PACKED_READS: 0x3f]
Max Packet Write Cmd [MAX_PACKED_WRITES: 0x3f]
Data TAG support [DATA_TAG_SUPPORT: 0x01]
Data TAG Unit Size [TAG_UNIT_SIZE: 0x03]
Tag Resources Size [TAG_RES_SIZE: 0x03]
Context Management Capabilities [CONTEXT_CAPABILITIES: 0x05]
Large Unit Size [LARGE_UNIT_SIZE_M1: 0x00]
Extended partition attribute support [EXT_SUPPORT: 0x00]
Generic CMD6 Timer [GENERIC_CMD6_TIME: 0x19]
Power off notification [POWER_OFF_LONG_TIME: 0x64]
Cache Size [CACHE_SIZE] is 0 KiB
Background operations status [BKOPS_STATUS: 0x00]
1st Initialisation Time after programmed sector [INI_TIMEOUT_AP: 0x0a]
Power class for 52MHz, DDR at 3.6V [PWR_CL_DDR_52_360: 0x22]
Power class for 52MHz, DDR at 1.95V [PWR_CL_DDR_52_195: 0x00]
Power class for 200MHz at 3.6V [PWR_CL_200_360: 0x00]
Power class for 200MHz, at 1.95V [PWR_CL_200_195: 0x00]
Minimum Performance for 8bit at 52MHz in DDR mode:
 [MIN_PERF_DDR_W_8_52: 0x00]
 [MIN_PERF_DDR_R_8_52: 0x00]
TRIM Multiplier [TRIM_MULT: 0x0e]
Secure Feature support [SEC_FEATURE_SUPPORT: 0x55]
Boot Information [BOOT_INFO: 0x07]
 Device supports alternative boot method
 Device supports dual data rate during boot
 Device supports high speed timing during boot
Boot partition size [BOOT_SIZE_MULTI: 0x10]
Access size [ACC_SIZE: 0x08]
High-capacity erase unit size [HC_ERASE_GRP_SIZE: 0x04]
 i.e. 2048 KiB
High-capacity erase timeout [ERASE_TIMEOUT_MULT: 0x0e]
Reliable write sector count [REL_WR_SEC_C: 0x01]
High-capacity W protect group size [HC_WP_GRP_SIZE: 0x08]
 i.e. 16384 KiB
Sleep current (VCC) [S_C_VCC: 0x08]
Sleep current (VCCQ) [S_C_VCCQ: 0x07]
Sleep/awake timeout [S_A_TIMEOUT: 0x13]
Sector Count [SEC_COUNT: 0x00e90000]
 Device is block-addressed
Minimum Write Performance for 8bit:
 [MIN_PERF_W_8_52: 0x0a]
 [MIN_PERF_R_8_52: 0x0a]
 [MIN_PERF_W_8_26_4_52: 0x0a]
 [MIN_PERF_R_8_26_4_52: 0x0a]
Minimum Write Performance for 4bit:
 [MIN_PERF_W_4_26: 0x0a]
 [MIN_PERF_R_4_26: 0x0a]
Power classes registers:
 [PWR_CL_26_360: 0x22]
 [PWR_CL_52_360: 0x22]
 [PWR_CL_26_195: 0x00]
 [PWR_CL_52_195: 0x00]
Partition switching timing [PARTITION_SWITCH_TIME: 0x03]
Out-of-interrupt busy timing [OUT_OF_INTERRUPT_TIME: 0x19]
I/O Driver Strength [DRIVER_STRENGTH: 0x01]
Card Type [CARD_TYPE: 0x07]
 HS Dual Data Rate eMMC @52MHz 1.8V or 3VI/O
 HS eMMC @52MHz - at rated device voltage(s)
 HS eMMC @26MHz - at rated device voltage(s)
CSD structure version [CSD_STRUCTURE: 0x02]
Command set [CMD_SET: 0x00]
Command set revision [CMD_SET_REV: 0x00]
Power class [POWER_CLASS: 0x02]
High-speed interface timing [HS_TIMING: 0x01]
Erased memory content [ERASED_MEM_CONT: 0x00]
Boot configuration bytes [PARTITION_CONFIG: 0x03]
 Not boot enable
 R/W Replay Protected Memory Block (RPMB)
Boot config protection [BOOT_CONFIG_PROT: 0x00]
Boot bus Conditions [BOOT_BUS_CONDITIONS: 0x00]
High-density erase group definition [ERASE_GROUP_DEF: 0x01]
Boot write protection status registers [BOOT_WP_STATUS]: 0x00
Boot Area Write protection [BOOT_WP]: 0x00
 Power ro locking: possible
 Permanent ro locking: possible
 partition 0 ro lock status: not locked
 partition 1 ro lock status: not locked
User area write protection register [USER_WP]: 0x00
FW configuration [FW_CONFIG]: 0x00
RPMB Size [RPMB_SIZE_MULT]: 0x10
Write reliability setting register [WR_REL_SET]: 0x1f
 user area: the device protects existing data if a power failure occurs during a write operation
 partition 1: the device protects existing data if a power failure occurs during a write operation
 partition 2: the device protects existing data if a power failure occurs during a write operation
 partition 3: the device protects existing data if a power failure occurs during a write operation
 partition 4: the device protects existing data if a power failure occurs during a write operation
Write reliability parameter register [WR_REL_PARAM]: 0x05
 Device supports writing EXT_CSD_WR_REL_SET
 Device supports the enhanced def. of reliable write
Enable background operations handshake [BKOPS_EN]: 0x00
H/W reset function [RST_N_FUNCTION]: 0x00
HPI management [HPI_MGMT]: 0x00
Partitioning Support [PARTITIONING_SUPPORT]: 0x01
 Device support partitioning feature
 Device cannot have enhanced tech.
Max Enhanced Area Size [MAX_ENH_SIZE_MULT]: 0x0000e9
 i.e. 3817472 KiB
Partitions attribute [PARTITIONS_ATTRIBUTE]: 0x00
Partitioning Setting [PARTITION_SETTING_COMPLETED]: 0x00
 Device partition setting NOT complete
General Purpose Partition Size
 [GP_SIZE_MULT_4]: 0x000000
 [GP_SIZE_MULT_3]: 0x000000
 [GP_SIZE_MULT_2]: 0x000000
 [GP_SIZE_MULT_1]: 0x000000
Enhanced User Data Area Size [ENH_SIZE_MULT]: 0x000000
 i.e. 0 KiB
Enhanced User Data Start Address [ENH_START_ADDR]: 0x00000000
 i.e. 0 bytes offset
Bad Block Management mode [SEC_BAD_BLK_MGMNT]: 0x00
Periodic Wake-up [PERIODIC_WAKEUP]: 0x00
Program CID/CSD in DDR mode support [PROGRAM_CID_CSD_DDR_SUPPORT]: 0x01
Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[127]]: 0x00
Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[126]]: 0x00
Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[125]]: 0x00
Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[124]]: 0x00
Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[123]]: 0x00
Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[122]]: 0x00
Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[121]]: 0x00
Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[120]]: 0x00
Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[119]]: 0x00
Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[118]]: 0x00
Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[117]]: 0x00
Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[116]]: 0x00
Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[115]]: 0x00
Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[114]]: 0x00
Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[113]]: 0x00
Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[112]]: 0x00
Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[111]]: 0x00
Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[110]]: 0x00
Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[109]]: 0x00
Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[108]]: 0x00
Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[107]]: 0x00
Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[106]]: 0x00
Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[105]]: 0x00
Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[104]]: 0x00
Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[103]]: 0x00
Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[102]]: 0x00
Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[101]]: 0x00
Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[100]]: 0x00
Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[99]]: 0x00
Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[98]]: 0x00
Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[97]]: 0x00
Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[96]]: 0x03
Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[95]]: 0x02
Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[94]]: 0x0b
Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[93]]: 0x04
Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[92]]: 0x00
Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[91]]: 0x00
Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[90]]: 0x00
Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[89]]: 0x00
Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[88]]: 0x0b
Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[87]]: 0x08
Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[86]]: 0x00
Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[85]]: 0x00
Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[84]]: 0x00
Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[83]]: 0x00
Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[82]]: 0x00
Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[81]]: 0x00
Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[80]]: 0x00
Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[79]]: 0x00
Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[78]]: 0x72
Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[77]]: 0x35
Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[76]]: 0x35
Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[75]]: 0x69
Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[74]]: 0x32
Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[73]]: 0x32
Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[72]]: 0x00
Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[71]]: 0x00
Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[70]]: 0x00
Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[69]]: 0x00
Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[68]]: 0x00
Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[67]]: 0x00
Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[66]]: 0x00
Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[65]]: 0x00
Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[64]]: 0x00
Native sector size [NATIVE_SECTOR_SIZE]: 0x00
Sector size emulation [USE_NATIVE_SECTOR]: 0x00
Sector size [DATA_SECTOR_SIZE]: 0x00
1st initialization after disabling sector size emulation [INI_TIMEOUT_EMU]: 0x00
Class 6 commands control [CLASS_6_CTRL]: 0x00
Number of addressed group to be Released[DYNCAP_NEEDED]: 0x00
Exception events control [EXCEPTION_EVENTS_CTRL]: 0x0000
Exception events status[EXCEPTION_EVENTS_STATUS]: 0x0000
Extended Partitions Attribute [EXT_PARTITIONS_ATTRIBUTE]: 0x0000
Context configuration [CONTEXT_CONF[51]]: 0x00
Context configuration [CONTEXT_CONF[50]]: 0x00
Context configuration [CONTEXT_CONF[49]]: 0x00
Context configuration [CONTEXT_CONF[48]]: 0x00
Context configuration [CONTEXT_CONF[47]]: 0x00
Context configuration [CONTEXT_CONF[46]]: 0x00
Context configuration [CONTEXT_CONF[45]]: 0x00
Context configuration [CONTEXT_CONF[44]]: 0x00
Context configuration [CONTEXT_CONF[43]]: 0x00
Context configuration [CONTEXT_CONF[42]]: 0x00
Context configuration [CONTEXT_CONF[41]]: 0x00
Context configuration [CONTEXT_CONF[40]]: 0x00
Context configuration [CONTEXT_CONF[39]]: 0x00
Context configuration [CONTEXT_CONF[38]]: 0x00
Context configuration [CONTEXT_CONF[37]]: 0x00
Packed command status [PACKED_COMMAND_STATUS]: 0x00
Packed command failure index [PACKED_FAILURE_INDEX]: 0x00
Power Off Notification [POWER_OFF_NOTIFICATION]: 0x00
Control to turn the Cache ON/OFF [CACHE_CTRL]: 0x00
Control to turn the Cache Barrier ON/OFF [BARRIER_CTRL]: 0x00

              I 'm not using any of the HHD/SSD packages, in fact I just have these 3 installed:

              • aws-wizard
              • ipsec-profile-wizard
              • WireGuard

              I'm not sure I can use the Net Installer as (as mentioned above), I'm using a PPPoE connection and it seems that net installer is not supporting it.

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              • stephenw10S
                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                last edited by

                A sure way to tell is if you see uboot report 8 disks after you run usbrecovery and boot from the USB drive.

                That process should erase the partition table on the eMMC resulting in uboot seeing only '5 disks'. If the eMMC will not allow erasing that it will report 8.

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                  gabric098 @stephenw10
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                  @stephenw10
                  Yes, it does still see 8 disks, meaning that the emmc went in read-only mode: that's pretty depressing.
                  It's a 2019 device, you saw what packages I installed. It's a home environment with very simple fw rules and a couple of VLANs, I would define as light usage in terms of disk writes.
                  Maybe I've just been unlucky but I'm now concerned in spending the money for a SG-2100 or even an SG-4200, it seems they both still use the emmc in their basic configuration.
                  Is the emmc on those devices replaceable in case of failure or are there any alternatives? Maybe this is more of a sales question though.

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                  • stephenw10S
                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                    last edited by

                    The 2100 and 4200 can both be fitted with an SSD. The 4200 has a larger eMMC also which allows more ware leveling.

                    It's possible to install and run from USB on the 1100 if the eMMC fails. The new Net Installer will allow that.

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                      gabric098 @stephenw10
                      last edited by

                      @stephenw10 said in SG-1100 installing 24.03 via USB issue:

                      It's possible to install and run from USB on the 1100 if the eMMC fails. The new Net Installer will allow that.

                      As I mentioned above, net installer claims not to be compatible with PPPeE, so, for me is a no go.

                      I'm looking at the SG-2100 max, I'm wondering if the SG-1100 config will be compatible with the SG-2100 or if I'll need to re-configure all from scratch. I'm thinking in particular the 802.1Q VLAN switch config which it's strictly related with the 1100 SoC

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                      • stephenw10S
                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                        last edited by

                        The 2100 does also contain a switch but it's not connected in the same way. We can convert the config so it will import into the 2100 directly.

                        PPPoE is coming to the installer soon.

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                          gabric098 @stephenw10
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                          I'm exploring the possibility of buying an SG-2100 base and add an m.2 SSD like documented here.

                          Do you also have some documentation page covering the software re-installation part? Is it as simple as selecting as installation target the ssd?

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                          • stephenw10S
                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                            Yes, the installer will show you the eMMC and SSD and just select where you want to install to.

                            Shown in step 7 here: https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/solutions/netgate-2100/reinstall-pfsense.html

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                              gabric098 @stephenw10
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                              @stephenw10
                              Related to the questions above: if I were to buy a SG-2100 max (which comes with the ssd installed), would it come with pfSense pre-installed on the SSD out of the box, or I would need to re-install it manually on the SSD?

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                              • stephenw10S
                                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                It comes installed to the SSD already.

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                                  gabric098 @stephenw10
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                                  @stephenw10 said in SG-1100 installing 24.03 via USB issue:

                                  The 2100 does also contain a switch but it's not connected in the same way. We can convert the config so it will import into the 2100 directly.

                                  Hi @stephenw10, I finally got the new SG-2100 max delivered and I'm ready to migrate the SG-1100 configuration to the new device. You mentioned support could assist in migrating the configuration, what's the correct way to do that? Shall I open a support ticket?

                                  Thank you

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                                  • stephenw10S
                                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                    Yes just open a support ticket and request it: https://www.netgate.com/tac-support-request

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