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    • GertjanG
      Gertjan @Overlord
      last edited by

      @Overlord

      Know issue.
      The kea process 'stopped without cleaning up', this event is also known as a 'crash'.
      pfSense restart the process ... but there is an issue : the previous pid file, containing the pid of the previous now defunct kea process, is still there ... the startup fails.

      What I did : (as I wanted it to start anyway, and the issue is a bit silly) : I modded kea's shell startup scripts so it unconditionally deletes the PID file if one exists during startup.
      or
      Say to yourself : No way, I use ISC.
      or
      Delete the pid file manually and retry.

      I've been using kea for several weeks, despite the fact I've read the blog post about the user conditions, caveats, warnings and other fine print. It worked pretty well, and I haven't been confronted with crashes. My LANs are small, 50 devices or so, and a captive portal with a boatload of guest users. Don't recall having any issues.
      I had to abandon kea as another test project obliged me to use "DHCP options" and these are also on the kea-not-yet list.

      No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
      Edit : and where are the logs ??

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        zkhcohen
        last edited by

        This issue has impacted me on numerous occasions, only when the service is killed in an unclean fashion.

        I also can't replicate the behavior by creating dummy lock files -- the service will still start.

        Due to this unexplained behavior, I implemented a hacky workaround: creating a cron job which executes the following script:

        [ `keactrl status | grep 'DHCPv4 server:' | awk '{print $3}'` = "inactive" ] && [ -f /tmp/kea4-ctrl-socket.lock ] && rm -f /tmp/kea4-ctrl-socket.lock && keactrl start -s dhcp4
        
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          noisyjohn @maverickws
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          @maverickws
          The same here ,,, But I found the solution:
          login with an sftp client

          directory /root/tmp chmod 777 (allow all)
          delete /root/tmp/kea4-ctrl-socket
          delete /root/tmp/kea4-ctrl-socket.lock
          restart Kea DHCP server (the sockets are automaticaly created)
          done!
          however this issue may hapen again after some days ...

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          • maverickwsM
            maverickws @noisyjohn
            last edited by maverickws

            @noisyjohn Hi there and thank you for your input.

            However, I have been forced out of KEA.
            The reasons are described in this topic:
            Ater Kea for 1 year, reverted back to ISC

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            • cmcdonaldC
              cmcdonald Netgate Developer
              last edited by

              I believe we now have a fix for this. Keep an eye out for a public beta of 24.11 very soon.

              Need help fast? https://www.netgate.com/support

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                zkhcohen @cmcdonald
                last edited by

                @cmcdonald Is there any intent to release this in the Community Edition? It's now been over a year since the last major version release, and the issues are stacking up. It's starting to feel like the project is stagnating.

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                • GertjanG
                  Gertjan @zkhcohen
                  last edited by

                  @zkhcohen said in Kea DHCP stops working:

                  and the issues are stacking up ...

                  This thread, this issue, only exists in 24.03.
                  It concerns KEA, the 'new' DHCP server/client that is going to replace ISC DHCP in the future. The latter is used in 2.7.2 and is working very well - I'm using it also in 24.03.

                  Right now, no one really wants 'new versions' as most of us try to deal with 24H2 and its 'new things' that no one was asking for, but we still got (to debug) it ...

                  No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                  Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                    zkhcohen @Gertjan
                    last edited by

                    @Gertjan I can personally confirm that this issue is present in CE 2.7.2 with the same symptoms.

                    I'm not sure how you can claim that no one "wants a new version" when there are numerous threads off and on this forum asking for exactly that.

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                    • GertjanG
                      Gertjan @zkhcohen
                      last edited by

                      @zkhcohen said in Kea DHCP stops working:

                      issue is present in CE 2.7.2 with the same symptoms.

                      Aha, so 2.7.2 has also the KEA !? I stand corrected.
                      I really had the impression that only pfSense Plus (24.03) had this test-drive KEA addition.

                      Easy way out then : keep the 30+ years tested an proved "DHCP ISC" and the issue will be gone.

                      No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                      Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                        datpif
                        last edited by

                        I see this is still ongoing. I found a workaround via watchdog service. The script does a cleanup before attempting to restart the sevice

                        • list itemmake sure you install the watchdog service in pfsense.

                        • list Add the kea dhcp 4 service.

                        • Shell into pfsense and change to /usr/local/etc/rc.d

                        • list Create a backup of kea service script. cp kea kea.old

                        • list edit the kea file and replace contents with script below

                        #!/bin/sh
                        
                        # PROVIDE: kea
                        # REQUIRE: NETWORK netif routing    
                        # KEYWORD: shutdown
                        
                        . /etc/rc.subr
                        
                        name=kea
                        desc="Kea DHCP Server"
                        rcvar=kea_enable
                        
                        load_rc_config $name
                        
                        kea_enable=${kea_enable:-"NO"}
                        
                        command="/usr/local/sbin/keactrl"
                        required_files="/usr/local/etc/${name}/keactrl.conf"
                        
                        # Add cleanup function
                        cleanup_kea() {
                            # Clean up stale lock files
                            rm -f /tmp/kea4-ctrl-socket.lock
                            # Kill any zombie processes
                            pkill -9 kea-dhcp4
                            # Wait for processes to die
                            sleep 2
                        }
                        
                        # Modify start command to include cleanup
                        start_cmd() {
                            cleanup_kea
                            ${command} start
                            logger -t kea-watchdog "Kea DHCP4 started with cleanup"
                        }
                        
                        # Modify stop command to include cleanup
                        stop_cmd() {
                            ${command} stop
                            cleanup_kea
                            logger -t kea-watchdog "Kea DHCP4 stopped with cleanup"
                        }
                        
                        status_cmd="$command status"
                        reload_cmd="$command reload"
                        extra_commands="reload"
                        
                        run_rc_command "$1"
                        

                        Watchdog should auto restart the service

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                          datpif @datpif
                          last edited by

                          @datpif Actually just found watchdog starts a different service . so the simplest fix i found was to edit

                          • /etc/inc/service-utils.inc

                          • search for case 'kea-dhcp4':

                          • and add

                                          case 'kea-dhcp4':
                                                exec("rm -f /tmp/kea4-ctrl-socket.lock");
                          
                          
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                            noisyjohn @datpif
                            last edited by

                            @datpif yeap! clever. I knew this problem /tmp/kea4-ctrl-socket.lock"". But this automation is grate. Thanks for this. But it is still a work around, not a fix. I wander if anyone in KEA will take care of this.
                            However I'm gona say goodby to KEA. The reason:
                            KEA does not register the DHCP clients in dns resolver, so my local net (5 pcs) never works as I want. I have read somewhere that it' does it automaticaly, but it does not. And there is no option "register dhcp clients" as the older ISC DHCP does.

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                            • stephenw10S
                              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                              last edited by

                              It does in 24.11.

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                                Gerry555
                                last edited by Gerry555

                                Any sign if this issue is road mapped to be been corrected?
                                This issue is still occurring on the latest version 24.11

                                DHCP just stops. It will restart successfully when I login and manually restart the stopped service.
                                Has now occurred number times.

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                                • GertjanG
                                  Gertjan @Gerry555
                                  last edited by

                                  @Gerry555 said in Kea DHCP stops working:

                                  Any sign if this issue is road mapped to be been corrected?

                                  2.8.0 is in the works ...

                                  @Gerry555 said in Kea DHCP stops working:

                                  This issue is still occurring on the latest version 24.11

                                  Maybe ?
                                  I'm using 24.11.
                                  I switched to KEA DHCPv4 and DHCPv6, on 4 LAN's, the day 24.11 came out - 3 months now ?
                                  I use many DHCP MAC/DUID 'static' leases.
                                  With "host name into DNS registration" (one 1 decade old problem solved !!)
                                  Kea, for me, is rock solid. I can go on holiday for 10 days, come back, and find everything up and running (company router - lost of leases as it is a hotel with a captive portal).
                                  Kea didn't crash or something like that.

                                  And I didn't made live easy on myself, I added 'manually' this ISC DHCP Dynamic DNS feature and Kea DHCP? and still no problem what so ever.

                                  I'm using a 4100 - maybe that helps 😊

                                  No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                                  Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                                  • stephenw10S
                                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                    last edited by

                                    What are you running it on? There does appear to be an upstream issue on armv7 that we have yet to pin down. Currently, since there is no fix, advice is to revert to ISC if you're using a 3100.

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                                      Gerry555 @stephenw10
                                      last edited by

                                      Thanks @stephenw10 . Much appreciate the response.

                                      Yes - I am using a 3100. I have switched back to ISC.

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                                        onnastick @Gerry555
                                        last edited by

                                        I have a 3100 running 24.11 since it came out. I switched over to KEA as well just because I thought that's what the advice was, since ISC is deprecated.

                                        However, ever since I made these changes, I have noticed that from time to time, devices stop being able to receive IP assignments. I don't see anything that seems particularly helpful in the system log (though I admit I am only looking at the DHCP log). I haven't tried manually restarting the service, but usually just a power cycle fixes it until it breaks again. Sometimes this is what I have to do if I am not there and am providing remote support to someone less technical.

                                        Based on @stephenw10's advice above I have just reverted to ISC and will plan to leave it this way for a while in the hopes it will stop periodically breaking.

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                                        • stephenw10S
                                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator @onnastick
                                          last edited by

                                          @onnastick said in Kea DHCP stops working:

                                          I switched over to KEA as well just because I thought that's what the advice was, since ISC is deprecated.

                                          It was at release. And still is for any other hardware. However this upstream bug has since been discovered in armv7. I'm running it here and haven't yet found any full workaround.

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                                            Patch @Gertjan
                                            last edited by Patch

                                            @Gertjan said in Kea DHCP stops working:

                                            2.8.0 is in the works ...

                                            LOL
                                            The pubic access to daily build has been blocked since late 2023
                                            pfsense Community v2.8 is a vaporware product which currently contains the majority of the pfsense redmine changes for the over 16 months through to July 2025

                                            Don't hold your breath waiting for it to materialise.

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