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1 WAN interface, 3 LAN interfaces, OpenVPN allow communication to all networks

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    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
    last edited by May 23, 2024, 4:59 PM

    Ok so try to ping something on of the other subnets you think should respond; leave the ping running.

    Check the state table in Diag > States. Filter it by that ping target and make sure you see the expected two states. One on the VPN and one on the internal interface.

    Steve

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      jg8000 @stephenw10
      last edited by May 23, 2024, 7:49 PM

      @stephenw10

      thanks, I tried that for 2 subnets. State is 0:0 and packet number grows on the VPN client side but not on the other, for both. I allow any so icmp should get through.

      Maybe the issue is elsewhere, I'll try and get a console up on the machine that I expect to be up.

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        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
        last edited by May 23, 2024, 8:04 PM

        Can you grab a screenshot of that?

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          jg8000 @stephenw10
          last edited by May 23, 2024, 8:07 PM

          @stephenw10

          Sure

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            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
            last edited by May 23, 2024, 8:29 PM

            Ok, so in both cases that ping is coming in the VPN and leaving the internal interface correctly but no replies come back.

            So either the target devices are not replying or the replies are not coming back to pfSense. More likely they just don't reply to pings from outside their own subnet because of local firewall restrictions.

            What are those target devices?

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              jg8000 @stephenw10
              last edited by May 23, 2024, 9:25 PM

              @stephenw10

              Thank you for your help.

              I have duplicated the issue on a separate setup.

              I have 3 interfaces setup:

              WAN

              LAN: set to static 192.168.1.1/24

              OPT1 - set to static 192.168.2.1/24

              I enabled DHCP for both, and setup a windows client on each LAN. I don't have OpenVPN on this setup but I think the problem is similar.

              The machines can't ping each other. They both get DHCP addresses, I can ping the statically assigned interface IP, access the pfsense admin .1 address from each client. I can even get to the other interface .1 pfsense login from each client.

              But I can't get them to ping each other.

              I don't understand what I'm doing wrong.

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                jg8000 @stephenw10
                last edited by May 23, 2024, 9:29 PM

                @stephenw10

                Ok, you are correct. It was the local firewall restricting the response. I turned off the local firewall and I can now ping. I did not try other services yet.

                The real world scenario is access the LAN via ssh from the VPN Net, and to access the IMPI/iLO also.

                Right now it's not working, can't access ssh or ping, it's Rocky 8/9 so a firewall could be the issue. Not sure about iLO, it should be accessible via https but that isn't working either.

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                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                  last edited by May 23, 2024, 9:46 PM

                  You can work around it with an outbound NAT rule so traffic appears to be sourced from the pfSense interface address.

                  But a cleaner solution is to add rules on the targets to allow the access.

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                    jg8000 @stephenw10
                    last edited by jg8000 May 23, 2024, 9:59 PM May 23, 2024, 9:58 PM

                    @stephenw10

                    Thank you, so if I wanted to add an Outbound NAT rule to make it seem like the traffic is originating on the same subnet, how can I set this up?

                    If I come in via VPN on 192.168.50.0/24 and want to connect to 192.168.3.1/24 how is the rule configured?

                    This is my attempt on my test bench trying to get to an IPMI device on 192.168.3.101 (OPT2) from 192.168.1.5 (LAN). I can get to IPMI only if I configure the network port to be on the 192.168.3.1/24 (OPT2) interface

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                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                      last edited by May 23, 2024, 10:05 PM

                      That rule will work if you put it on the OPT2 interface. It gets applied outbound on the interface so must be on OPT2.

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                        jg8000 @stephenw10
                        last edited by May 23, 2024, 10:16 PM

                        @stephenw10

                        Should the rule be greyed out like this? I still can't get it to go, I changed the interface to OPT2. My test client is on the LAN interface (192.168.1.5)

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                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                          last edited by May 23, 2024, 10:18 PM

                          Oh sorry you need to set outbound NAT to hybrid or manual to apply user rules. I suggest hybrid so auto rules are still updated.

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                            jg8000 @stephenw10
                            last edited by May 23, 2024, 10:24 PM

                            @stephenw10
                            Thank you, it's no longer greyed out but still not working.

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                            The idea is for (LAN) 192.168.1.5 to access (OPT2) 192.168.3.101 as if it were on the 192.168.3.0/24 subnet. Do I need to specify port ranges or anything? I hope not.

                            I can verify access by switching from (LAN)192.168.1.5 to (OPT2) 192.168.3.5 on the windows test client and accessing the web IPMI interface.

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                              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                              last edited by May 23, 2024, 10:32 PM

                              Check the state table again. You should see the translation on the OPT2 state.

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                                jg8000 @stephenw10
                                last edited by May 24, 2024, 12:12 AM

                                @stephenw10

                                I only see activity from 192.168.15 to the pfsense admin web admin. Nothing for 192.168.3

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                                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator @jg8000
                                  last edited by May 24, 2024, 12:23 AM

                                  @jg8000 said in 1 WAN interface, 3 LAN interfaces, OpenVPN allow communication to all networks:

                                  I can verify access by switching from (LAN)192.168.1.5 to (OPT2) 192.168.3.5 on the windows test client

                                  How exactly are you making that switch? Does that client have NICs in both subnets? If so it's probably not sending traffic through pfSense at all.

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                                    jg8000 @stephenw10
                                    last edited by May 24, 2024, 12:24 AM

                                    @stephenw10

                                    I just use it as a sanity check. I change the adapter IP from the 192.168.1 to the 192.168.3. and the IPMI port is on the same switch. So no, I doubt pfsense is involved. It only tells me that it's up and accessible.

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                                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                      last edited by May 24, 2024, 2:46 AM

                                      Hmm, but sending from 1.5 to 3.5 should go through pfSense and seemingly isn't (no states). So either something else is routing between those subnets, layer 3 switch maybe, or the client itself can access both subnets directly. Or perhaps it's just not sending, no default route?

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                                        jg8000 @stephenw10
                                        last edited by jg8000 May 24, 2024, 3:09 AM May 24, 2024, 2:52 AM

                                        @stephenw10

                                        The IPMI has a default route, I set it to 192.168.3.1. The 192.168.1.5 interface has no gateway.

                                        No layer 3 switch, IPMI cable to cheap netgear switch, and cable from same switch to windows client. I can't have the windows test client 192.168.1.5 have a gateway because it's dual homed with a WAN interface and the WAN needs it.

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                                          jg8000 @stephenw10
                                          last edited by jg8000 May 24, 2024, 3:58 AM May 24, 2024, 3:25 AM

                                          @stephenw10

                                          On the real server setup, I am able to see the states when going to the 192.168.3.0/24 from the VPN net 192.168.50.0/24. I'm not sure what to make of it.

                                          Although it doesn't seem to matter if the target http address is real or not, but I guess that doesn't matter, looks like it's making an attempt?

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