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    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
    last edited by Jan 14, 2025, 7:14 PM

    @MacUsers said in Netgate 8200 connection questions:

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B09P58BJ2L/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?th=1

    Pretty sure that's also M keyed. Pretty much anything that fits the B keyed slot will be M+B keyed. I don't think I've ever seen a B key only SSD.

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      MacUsers @stephenw10
      last edited by MacUsers Jan 14, 2025, 10:51 PM Jan 14, 2025, 10:50 PM

      You are righ!
      now I see: judging by this pin-out:
      695fd4f5-6f92-4571-b0d0-c5c72b86eb63-image.png

      looks like pretty much nothing available 😧

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        MacUsers @MacUsers
        last edited by Jan 14, 2025, 11:12 PM

        Never heard of 'em, but that's the only thing I could find in Amazon UK:

        https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0DL5WYGJ1/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A14U8PTXJ71BWF&th=1

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          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
          last edited by Jan 14, 2025, 11:16 PM

          @MacUsers said in Netgate 8200 connection questions:

          https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0DL5WYGJ1/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A14U8PTXJ71BWF&th=1

          Hmm, me either.

          There is a recent recommendation here: https://forum.netgate.com/topic/195962/netgate-6100-replacement-128gb-nvme-drive

          Not in the UK though.

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            MacUsers @stephenw10
            last edited by Jan 14, 2025, 11:28 PM

            Yeah, I was looking in that post as well......... I couldn't find anywhere to buy Innodisk from.

            BTW, do you know how to get to the BIOS? I'm on Mac and pressing ESC is not entering BIOS setup at all.

            -S

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              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
              last edited by Jan 14, 2025, 11:34 PM

              There is no conventional bios setup in blinkboot. The only options there are the efi boot device table and the reset and pxe hotkeys.

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                MacUsers
                last edited by Jan 16, 2025, 5:18 PM

                Another disspoinment - the GiGimundo disk I have been sent (by Amazon) is actualy a K-Key only. Either the picture in the listing is worng or I was genuinely sent a worng item by warehouse staff. But I now believe the former is the case.

                But that makes a lot bigger concern: if a B+M key cannot be sourced, what happens if the HDD fails, especially after the warranty. We will be left witha very expensive paper-weaight, I suppose.

                -S

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                  Gertjan @MacUsers
                  last edited by Gertjan Jan 16, 2025, 5:33 PM Jan 16, 2025, 5:33 PM

                  @MacUsers said in Netgate 8200 connection questions:

                  if a B+M key cannot be sourced

                  More then enough :
                  https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MR5O5YS/ref=sspa_dk_hqp_detail_aax_0?sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9ocXBfc2hhcmVk&th=1

                  Never delete a file anymore drive :
                  https://www.amazon.com/KingSpec-Performance-Internal-Solid-Ultrabook/dp/B08FQVNY5K/ref=pd_ci_mcx_pspc_dp_2_i_4?pd_rd_w=v7kTV&content-id=amzn1.sym.cd152278-debd-42b9-91b9-6f271389fda7&pf_rd_p=cd152278-debd-42b9-91b9-6f271389fda7&pf_rd_r=RQCEC0V1HR020ZW6463P&pd_rd_wg=tl5tJ&pd_rd_r=834c8db7-5bd2-47d3-b2f0-10d25fd34507&pd_rd_i=B08FQVNY5K&th=1

                  Note : both are B+M keyed drives, the image tells me so, and it's written in the sales text.

                  If they send you something different, X keyed, suggest that they pause building boosters and give more love to the shipping department 😊

                  No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                  Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                    last edited by Jan 16, 2025, 5:36 PM

                    That's SATA not NVMe. Must be an NVMe drive in 8200 / 6100 / 4100.

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                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                      last edited by stephenw10 Jan 16, 2025, 5:59 PM Jan 16, 2025, 5:59 PM

                      This should work: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0C64DVYZ9

                      I haven't tested it though.

                      I can say that the 16G Intel Optane drives work well and are readily available used since nobody wants them any longer.

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                        MacUsers @Gertjan
                        last edited by MacUsers Jan 16, 2025, 8:45 PM Jan 16, 2025, 6:21 PM

                        @Gertjan
                        There is hardly any B+K NVMe availabe in UK that can be reasonably sourced; plenty of SATA availabe though. I'm looking for one eversince I got my 8200.

                        -S

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                          MacUsers @stephenw10
                          last edited by Jan 16, 2025, 6:22 PM

                          @stephenw10 said in Netgate 8200 connection questions:

                          This should work: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0C64DVYZ9

                          Thanks!
                          I'm goinna give it a try. Hopefully the picture and listing is correct.

                          -S

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                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                            last edited by Jan 16, 2025, 7:35 PM

                            Mmm, I'm pretty sure it will boot but I have no idea if it will hit the reboot issue. 🤞

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                              MacUsers
                              last edited by Jan 20, 2025, 7:53 PM

                              okay, finally worked!!
                              I wanted to a have a bit bigger disk than 128G, so picked up a pair of those from eBay

                              8d22235f-31c8-4d78-8f2e-09f9b9b10df7-image.png

                              So far, running for 8 hrs. without any rebooting issue.

                              Here is the mirror:

                              $ zpool list -v
                              NAME         SIZE  ALLOC   FREE  CKPOINT  EXPANDSZ   FRAG    CAP  DEDUP    HEALTH  ALTROOT
                              pfSense      238G  1.34G   237G        -         -     0%     0%  1.00x    ONLINE  -
                                mirror-0   238G  1.34G   237G        -         -     0%  0.56%      -    ONLINE
                                  nda0s2   238G      -      -        -         -      -      -      -    ONLINE
                                  nda1s2   238G      -      -        -         -      -      -      -    ONLINE
                              

                              Here is the detais:

                              $ geom disk list
                              Geom name: nda0
                              Providers:
                              1. Name: nda0
                                 Mediasize: 256060514304 (238G)
                                 Sectorsize: 512
                                 Mode: r1w1e2
                                 descr: WDC PC SN520 SDAPMUW-256G-1001
                                 lunid: e8238fa6bf530001001b444a44c4182e
                                 ident: 194926444415
                                 rotationrate: 0
                                 fwsectors: 0
                                 fwheads: 0
                              
                              Geom name: nda1
                              Providers:
                              1. Name: nda1
                                 Mediasize: 256060514304 (238G)
                                 Sectorsize: 512
                                 Mode: r1w1e2
                                 descr: WDC PC SN520 SDAPMUW-256G-1001
                                 lunid: e8238fa6bf530001001b444a44c452d1
                                 ident: 194926472104
                                 rotationrate: 0
                                 fwsectors: 0
                                 fwheads: 0
                              

                              -S

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                                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                last edited by Jan 20, 2025, 8:50 PM

                                Nice! Yes I think we have seen reports of those WD 520 series working but not available new any longer AFAIK.

                                Did you move the support screw or use adapters for those?

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                                  MacUsers @stephenw10
                                  last edited by MacUsers Jan 21, 2025, 7:38 AM Jan 21, 2025, 7:35 AM

                                  @stephenw10 said in Netgate 8200 connection questions:

                                  Nice! Yes I think we have seen reports of those WD 520 series working but not available new any longer AFAIK.

                                  yeah, that's the only issue; I wish I could buy new 😑
                                  I think, I'll buy another pair, to keep as the spare.

                                  Did you move the support screw or use adapters for those?

                                  Just moved the support screws.
                                  d6e918e8-a1b7-40cb-9eda-c79290216ddc-image.png

                                  Was pleased to see that mainboard has the native support of diffrent-length M.2 and Netgate was kind enough to supply the extra screws. 😇

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