Supermicro X7SPA-H
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All right, I found out a little more about the situation.
At the place where I ordered (Wiredzone.com), the board is not actually in stock, but is being drop shipped from Supermicro (or probably a distributor), and Supermicro is out of stock. To match, the description for the X7SPA-H on their site has changed to "special order". Interestingly, the -L and -HF variants are still listed as "in stock".
So I'm on the backorder list. Wiredzone says to expect stock late next week.
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I'm seriously considering taking the plunge and ordering one of these Supermicro boards for use at home. My big concern is that I'll find the performance of it insufficient after I've bought it and hate myself for buying something so expensive with such a limited use.
What I want is a something that can handle a boatload of simultaneous connections while providing 50d/10u [Mbit/s] throughput. Preferably it should be a tad future-proof and be able to handle 100/100 throughput as I'm probably upgrading to at least 100/60 within a year. I'm not planning on running a lot of packages (if any), occasionally some VPN, but I'm definitely going to use traffic shaping to make sure VOIP (SIP) doesn't get dropped packages etc.
I'm currently using an old Opteron 165 (1,6Ghz Dual Core Socket 939, 2GB RAM) and Nvidia and Intel GbE NIC's that does this rather well but with no disks, no graphics card plugged in, undervolted and tweaked to the limit it still draws 60-75w from the plug which is a bit too much for my liking. The big traffic generators in my household are p2p, like bittorrent and emule etc.Anyone with a similar setup who can give any input on this little Atom wonder?
If I do buy it and it sucks, at least it's got 6 sata ports so it's useable as a decent NAS for which it should be fast enough I guess.
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XeCutor,
If I succeed in getting pfSense running on the two units I build, I will try post some sort of benchmarks.
It's been a few weeks since I read the hardware sizing guide and hundreds of forum posts in an attempt to get some idea of what kind of power I need to do all this. I've slept a few times since then. What I do remember is that I came to a conclusion that the D510 board I ordered would be sufficient to handle my requirements.
I have a bit less bandwidth than you, but we share some goals in traffic shaping and occasional VPN. Ultimately, I intend to have the units double as a NAS/backup solution, using ssh, rsync, and samba. We'll see how it goes.
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Looks good. If this works, this could be my new home router.
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XeCutor,
If I succeed in getting pfSense running on the two units I build, I will try post some sort of benchmarks.
It's been a few weeks since I read the hardware sizing guide and hundreds of forum posts in an attempt to get some idea of what kind of power I need to do all this. I've slept a few times since then. What I do remember is that I came to a conclusion that the D510 board I ordered would be sufficient to handle my requirements.
I have a bit less bandwidth than you, but we share some goals in traffic shaping and occasional VPN. Ultimately, I intend to have the units double as a NAS/backup solution, using ssh, rsync, and samba. We'll see how it goes.
Benchmarks would be absolutely wonderful, I'm sure I'm not the only one who's curious for some hard data on these atom boards.
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My pair of X7SPA-H boards finally shipped from WiredZone. Expected delivery is Feb 10.
This weekend, I'll order the other necessary components.
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If you go to Newegg.com, they are running specials right now on SuperMicro barebones 1u appliances.
I got:
SUPERMICRO SYS-5015A-H 1U Barebone Server - Retail
G.SKILL 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit
Western Digital Caviar Green WD10EADS 1TB SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drivefor $350 including shipping. I can assure you, pfSense is running on it currently. It runs like a champ.
Newegg.com link
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816101262 -
If you go to Newegg.com, they are running specials right now on SuperMicro barebones 1u appliances.
FYI, newegg changes their pricing on these deals. I had that kit in my cart for $299 at one time, waited about 30 minutes and then the Atom 1U box went out of stock on me. Every time after that it's been $330-$360 for that kit since then. Their pricing is annoying to say the least.
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I got my X7SPA-H through SuperBiz. Do watch out buying this box set MIGHT not include the 3.5' HD bracket / 2.5' bracket. So need to double check when your ordered. I wait for the HD bracket over a month from Taiwan as it was not included.
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What kind of internet speed can this board handle ?
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What kind of internet speed can this board handle ?
With the same CPU and lesser ethernet interfaces (1 're' and 1 'vge') on an Intel D510MO board I am pushing 80mbps on my 100/100 fibre at home and that seems to be a bottleneck of the upstream rather than the hardware.
I think I'd be safe saying that you could run 100mbps ethernet at wirespeed.
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Mine is around 70/50 most of the time as it is now situated in the Datacentre looking after a number of clients
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Ok thx for the answers. The area that I live in has a shared 500/500 mbit line that isnt overused.
I'm still thinking about switching my router to a PfSense and this could be the board I chose if I build one. I'll get back with some benchmarks if/when I get it.
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What about the "(Supermicro) SuperServer 5015A-PHF" with the "X7SPA-HF" Board; it has 2 Intel 1Gbit Interfaces and looks very nice for pfSense …
Did someone test pfSense 1.2.3 on this new version with the "Intel Atom D510" ??FBI01
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Do you know if the pci-e x4 allows a card other then a video card. I am interested in getting the board and put a 3ware 9650 in it.
Looking to run openfiler.
thanks,
tony -
AFAIK there is no reason to believe only a graphics card would work in that PCI-e slot. Just make sure the expansion card you're going to use is compatible with PCI-e x4 or lower.
I'm also looking into buying one of these new pineview mobo's from SuperMicro and running pfSense on it. I haven't dug into all the chipset specs yet but I would also be interested to know if a stock pfSense 1.2.3 install would run on it.
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Here is a discusion of the board for UnRaid - a NAS OS
http://lime-technology.com/forum/index.php?topic=5133.0
The PCI-e slot supports other cards than a graphics card.
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Has anyone found any stock available for immediate purchase ?
If so, please post.
North American source preferred, but anything will be helpful :)
Thanks!
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Wow - you just missed it! Provantage had 4 in stock this morning. http://www.provantage.com/supermicro-x7spa-h~7SUPM362.htm
If it were me, I would wait until the "X7SPA-HF" model is available. That one has embedded IPMI (built-in KVM over IP) which is essential for a headless box stuck in a closet or datacenter.
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Yes … it is the X7SPA-HF model that I am actually after.
Should have said that.Either way, can anyone clarify what size of pico psu should be used for this board? Intel forums are all over the map.
Wondering if I should get a PicoPSU-150-XT w/102Watt adapter or if the PicoPSU-90 w/60Watt adapter is sufficient??
Other than RAM, the only other thing I will be running is an SSD .. and maybe a few extra case fans if the little bugger runs too hot.
Anyone have any solid info re: minimum / recommended power supplies ?
re: your comment about IPMI ... I noticed that fro the HF model as well but could not determine if there was an extra module to buy to use it. It also says "shared with LAN1" so I hope that means that LAN1 is used to communicate with it and than LAN1 can also be used for the pfSense LAN/WAN config, etc.