Supermicro X7SPA-H
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Time to update this thread.
-It's not clear searching the forum whether vnstat is working on 2.0 yet.
-jimp added a nice little package "RRD Summary" that will show you your usage for the last 2 months using any day of the month as start date.
-Supermicro x8 pcie riser cards now listed on ncix.
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=29194&vpn=CSE-RR1U-E8&manufacture=SuperMicroAnybody got some benchmarks? So far all we know for sure from this thread is that 25/2 is not a problem, but that's not saying much; I can get 80 mbps through my net5501-80 using iperf and 4 threads. No reason an Atom @1.6x2 shouldn't do at least 2-3x what a Geode @500MHz can do. (Something a little more 'real world' than iperf would be nice too).
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-Supermicro x8 pcie riser cards now listed on ncix.
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=29194&vpn=CSE-RR1U-E8&manufacture=SuperMicroWould this work with a x16 slot? Don't understand why they used a x16 physical slot for x4. I need a right slot riser for it to work in my case :-( Last time i search, I couldn't find anything that would work for me. Using M300-LCD as my case.
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Normally with PCI-e you can put a card into a slot that is as long or longer, so this x8-length riser should work in a x8 or x16 slot. If your x16 slot has only 4 lanes feeding it then whatever you plug into your x8 riser should normally operated normally but with the bandwidth of the 4 available lanes.
Hope that helps.
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Finally the board is available in the Netherlands, so I ordered one.
For reference purposes the following hardware configuration has been ordered:
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Supermicro X7SPA-HF
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Kingston HyperX KHX5300S2LLK2/4G (4 GB in total, was actually cheaper than the ValueRam series)
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OCZ Vertex Series SATA II 2.5" SSD 30GB
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Lian Li PC-Q07
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Be Quiet! Pure Power L7 300W instead of
Corsair HX520W (I know overkill, but is being reused from my current config) -
SuperMicro AOC-SG-i2 (2 port GBit NIC add-on-card)
I'm "upgrading" from an old spare Intel Pentium 4 2.66GHz, 2GB RAM, raptor 73GB, 3 Intel GbE NIC's (one dual PCI-X nic). This system draws 80 Watts. My cable connection is 90/9.
Hopefully at the end of July my config is up and running. I'll post some detailed benchmarks later on.Status update (22 July): the board is expected to be delivered in the first week of August…
Status update (04 Aug): board has arrived today and Be Quiet! Pure Power L7 300W is going to be used as PSU (instead of the Corsair). Reviews are very positive about the be quiet! PSU. Seems to perform almost equally to a PicoPSU!
References: http://www.be-quiet.net/be-quiet.net/index.php?StoryID=17&ProductID=46&websiteLang=en and http://www.silentpcreview.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=57573Status update (06 Aug): Up & running. See for performance and throughput figures the screen captures @ http://forum.pfsense.org/index.php/topic,27223.msg142085.html#msg142085. Also the igb driver (for the add-on-card) does have a very severe performance penalty bug! My WAN for now is connected to the add-on lan card. Follow instructions @ http://forum.pfsense.org/index.php/topic,22986.msg118380.html#msg118380. Download went up from 50-500 kB/s (average to max) to on average 5 to 6 MB/s. Unfortunately cannot find a site/location where I can stress out my cable connection…
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@Ibor:
- Corsair HX520W (I know overkill, but is being reused from my current config)
FYI. The HX520W was a great PSU, but not very efficient at low usage. The Atom is going to come in MUCH lower than the curve and you'll be wasting quite a bit of power. Whether buying a whole new PSU outweighs the cost depends on your situation, but the HX520W is still in demand and might be able to sell it.
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@Ibor:
- Corsair HX520W (I know overkill, but is being reused from my current config)
FYI. The HX520W was a great PSU, but not very efficient at low usage. The Atom is going to come in MUCH lower than the curve and you'll be wasting quite a bit of power. Whether buying a whole new PSU outweighs the cost depends on your situation, but the HX520W is still in demand and might be able to sell it.
You're completely right. I've done some research and I'm still scratching my head around this subject. The Corsair HX520W would have a 5% load with an Atom system…..
The only other viable candidate in my opinion would be a PicoPSU. Supermicro recommends a PSUs with a 24 pin connector in combination with the X7SPA motherboard (see FAQ http://www.supermicro.com/support/faqs/faq.cfm?faq=9876).The closest PicoPSU with a 24 pin connector is the picoPSU-150-XT + 102W Adapter Power Kit or even the picoPSU-150-XT + 80W Adapter Power Kit would be fine. According to silentpcreview (http://www.silentpcreview.com/article601-page3.html) the 120 with 80 versus 120 Watt adapter has an impressive 77 - 79 % efficiency at 22 W load. The 150 would likely drop a few percentages. 75% efficient perhaps for my X7SPA-HF configuration?
Has anybody experience with PicoPSU?
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I've used Pico PSU's in the past but not with an Atom. It should be fine.
Post your question on the Silentpcreview forums and I'm sure somebody will steer you in the right direction.
As I'm sure you've noticed in your research, it's impossible to get a standard ATX 80 Plus Gold PSU at low wattage. I could use one too.
Edit: I bought one of these for a 1U rackmount server (firewall) I built with a mini-ITX board. It wasn't an Atom, but a mobile processor on a Mini-ITX board. My setup consumes around 22-35W - about the same your Atom will.
http://www.idotpc.com/TheStore/pc/viewPrd.asp?idcategory=67&idproduct=831 -
Will one of these work:
http://www.mini-box.com/Power-Supplies-Kits
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Yes it should. Ask the people at mini-box. They will tell you.
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I use the picoPSU-150-XT + 80W Adapter Power Kit with the board with no issues. about 23-25 watts of power
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Edit: I bought one of these for a 1U rackmount server (firewall) I built with a mini-ITX board. It wasn't an Atom, but a mobile processor on a Mini-ITX board. My setup consumes around 22-35W - about the same your Atom will.
http://www.idotpc.com/TheStore/pc/viewPrd.asp?idcategory=67&idproduct=831This is very much appreciated, thanks! That's exactly the PSU that we (I) need with Atom boards. Price is very acceptable. Note: size is Flex ATX, not ATX, so backplate modding is required.
I use the picoPSU-150-XT + 80W Adapter Power Kit with the board with no issues. about 23-25 watts of power
Thanks for your feedback, very good to know. Tempting…
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@Ibor:
The closest PicoPSU with a 24 pin connector is the picoPSU-150-XT + 102W Adapter Power Kit or even the picoPSU-150-XT + 80W Adapter Power Kit would be fine. According to silentpcreview (http://www.silentpcreview.com/article601-page3.html) the 120 with 80 versus 120 Watt adapter has an impressive 77 - 79 % efficiency at 22 W load. The 150 would likely drop a few percentages. 75% efficient perhaps for my X7SPA-HF configuration?
Has anybody experience with PicoPSU?
FWIW I just completed build on a pfsense box around an X7SPA-HF with a PicoPSU (150). Works like a champ. Watch that RAM, though.
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Hello there i'm new around these parts, i'm getting this board next week and i have a question which i would appreciate some help with :)
When using this board for a home router is it best to use the Lan port with the IPMI for the internal network and the other one for the WAN interface?
I don't care about remote management(only local network) so this seemed like the best option for me and i assume i should set the IPMI ip to static since the pfsense box will also be my dhcp server. Having done various searches i couldn't get a clear answer so do you guys see any problems here or should this work fine?Thank you!
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When using this board for a home router is it best to use the Lan port with the IPMI for the internal network and the other one for the WAN interface?
That's how I'm using it. I'd prefer to keep the IPMI LAN port off WAN for security reasons as well. Of course it's password protected and it's probably possible to change the IPMI HTTP port - I don't remember off hand - but still better keeping it on the LAN side. I figured I could always set up a port forward if I wanted to access the IPMI web interface remotely.
i assume i should set the IPMI ip to static since the pfsense box will also be my dhcp server.
Setting it to a static IP is best but it should also pick up a DHCP from your pfsense box as well (i.e. "itself", even though the BMC is really like an entirely different box that just shares that LAN port) though of course when the machine is powered down and you want to get to the BMC you'll need that static IP.
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Thanks allot for clearing that up, my mind is at ease now and i can look forward to the install!
Which version of pfsense are you people running on this board? I'm guessing 2.0-Beta because of the issue 1.2.3 has with the remote keyboard emulation? -
Thanks allot for clearing that up, my mind is at ease now and i can look forward to the install!
Which version of pfsense are you people running on this board? I'm guessing 2.0-Beta because of the issue 1.2.3 has with the remote keyboard emulation?Yep, 2.0 beta. Ran 1.2.3 for a bit as well. I seem to remember that remote keyboard was ok once at the pfsense console but during install the remote keyboard on 1.2.3 would only work if there was already a physical (in my test USB) keyboard attached to the box.
2.0 has worked fine with just the remote keyboard over IPMI.
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Right then i'll make sure to install 2.0 right from the start, thanks again :)
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@Ibor:
Supermicro recommends a PSUs with a 24 pin connector in combination with the X7SPA motherboard
Real nice, considering Supermicro's own 1U cases come with only a 20-pin connector on their power supply. I just got the X7SPA-H this week with the CSE-503-200B case. Can you even get a motherboard with a 20-pin power connector these days? And if so, how will you get it into this case with its non-changeable IO shield?
But I digress. Looking forward to revving this thing up on pfsense 2.0.
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Anyone have problem with SATA? I unable to install, the log show something about GPT invalid or corrupted. Tried on new SSD and old 80GB SATA. Both saying same problem. Another log show GEOM invalid something that have todo with cylinder/head/sector parameter..
Will try to get the log later.
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Anyone have problem with SATA? I unable to install, the log show something about GPT invalid or corrupted. Tried on new SSD and old 80GB SATA. Both saying same problem. Another log show GEOM invalid something that have todo with cylinder/head/sector parameter..
Will try to get the log later.
I had trouble getting a single drive recognized (other drives were fine), but I finally resorted to scrubbing it with dd and all was right after that.