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    • valnarV
      valnar
      last edited by

      I'm looking to build a pfSense box for a relative and it will be replacing a Linksys WRT54G.  If possible, I'd like to find a solution that would allow for the LAN "port" to be a 4 or 8 port switch, like a consumer Linksys or Netgear wireless router.  Does such an animal exist that'll work with pfSense?

      (And yes, I know I could just buy a separate switch.)  :)

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        rkelleyrtp
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        Maybe you can get a WatchGuard Firebox with multiple NICs and just put a the inside ports on the same VLAN?

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        • valnarV
          valnar
          last edited by

          @rkelleyrtp:

          Maybe you can get a WatchGuard Firebox with multiple NICs and just put a the inside ports on the same VLAN?

          Sure, I'd be happy to do that if I know that it works.

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          • jimpJ
            jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
            last edited by

            A little pricey for the home, but they do exist:

            http://www.netgate.com/product_info.php?products_id=659

            Or if you just need two extra ports:

            http://cgi.ebay.com/Intel-Atom-330-4x-GBLAN-Mini-ITX-Morex-5677-NC92-330_W0QQitemZ400076161159QQcmdZViewItemQQptZDesktop_PCs?hash=item5d2665c087#ht_4026wt_1165

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            • valnarV
              valnar
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              But are those individual ports or switched together?  Maybe the better question is… can pfSense bridge multiple ports together on the same vlan?

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              • jimpJ
                jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
                last edited by

                On those they are individually addressable ports. You can bridge together any interfaces you want like that though. You wouldn't need VLANs to bridge them together. (Though you can bridge VLANs if you really want to)

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                  rkelleyrtp
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                  Ah - yep, I completely forgot about bridging.  Thanks for the reminder, Jimp!

                  Depending on your budget, you can just get a mini-itx box with a PCIx riser and add a quad-port PCI NIC.  That could potentially give you 6 ports (2 onboard and 4 via expansion card).

                  I was just pricing a similar system from mini-box.com.  This is the M300 barebones box for $210 and comes with a PCI riser card - http://www.mini-box.com/Mini-Box-M350-Barebone-System.  You can add additional parts as necessary (scroll to the bottom).  Simply add a quad-port ethernet card and you are in business.

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                  • jahonixJ
                    jahonix
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                    Jimp, please correct me if I'm wrong: with bridged interfaces the CPU still has to push the traffic between the IFs, right?
                    This would limit the amount of traffic between IFs to what the CPU/bus can handle as compared to a dedicated switch which should be able to do this at link speed easily.

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                    • jimpJ
                      jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
                      last edited by

                      @jahonix:

                      Jimp, please correct me if I'm wrong: with bridged interfaces the CPU still has to push the traffic between the IFs, right?
                      This would limit the amount of traffic between IFs to what the CPU/bus can handle as compared to a dedicated switch which should be able to do this at link speed easily.

                      That is correct. A real switch will always be better in this situation unless you need to control traffic between ports.

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                      • valnarV
                        valnar
                        last edited by

                        So that being said, nobody knows of a product which has an internal switch that can operate as a single LAN "port" as far as pfSense is concerned?

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                        • valnarV
                          valnar
                          last edited by

                          Bump.

                          No other suggestions?

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                          • GruensFroeschliG
                            GruensFroeschli
                            last edited by

                            I suppose you're looking for something like that:
                            http://www.pcloft.com/asinrocapcie.html
                            –> A NIC with integrated switch.

                            We do what we must, because we can.

                            Asking questions the smart way: http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

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                            • valnarV
                              valnar
                              last edited by

                              That looks like what I'm looking for, but it has other things that I hope I can turn off.  I need to find out of the chip they use works with BSD.

                              Edit:
                              Found one.  The HP NC150T.

                              It's a lot more than I want to spend, but it's exactly.  Now to see if there is a 100Mb (& cheaper) alternative.

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                                williamray507
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                                @GruensFroeschli:

                                I suppose you're looking for something like that:
                                http://www.pcloft.com/asinrocapcie.html
                                –> A NIC with integrated switch.

                                I just built a system with a card very close to this and it shows up as a single network port but all 4 ports work great.

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                                • GruensFroeschliG
                                  GruensFroeschli
                                  last edited by

                                  Williamray507, what card did you use?
                                  I'm looking for such a card myself right now.

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                                  • valnarV
                                    valnar
                                    last edited by

                                    I'm firing this topic back up again to see if the landscape has changed.

                                    Has anyone come up with an inexpensive pfSense compatible box (approx ALIX speed or better) that has a 4-port integrated LAN switch?  I'm still at a point where it is difficult to recommend pfSense to my friends who only need 3 or 4 PC's plugged in without using a separate switch.  dd-wrt usually fills that void, but it's impossible to upgrade remotely.

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