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    • J
      jits
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      rom: Gregory Perry <gregory.perry[at]govirtual.tv>To: "deraadt[at]openbsd.org" <deraadt[at]openbsd.org>Subject: OpenBSD Crypto Framework
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      Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2010 23:55:25 +0000
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      Hello Theo,

      Long time no talk.  If you will recall, a while back I was the CTO at
      NETSEC and arranged funding and donations for the OpenBSD Crypto
      Framework.  At that same time I also did some consulting for the FBI,
      for their GSA Technical Support Center, which was a cryptologic
      reverse engineering project aimed at backdooring and implementing key
      escrow mechanisms for smart card and other hardware-based computing
      technologies.

      My NDA with the FBI has recently expired, and I wanted to make you
      aware of the fact that the FBI implemented a number of backdoors and
      side channel key leaking mechanisms into the OCF, for the express
      purpose of monitoring the site to site VPN encryption system
      implemented by EOUSA, the parent organization to the FBI.  Jason
      Wright and several other developers were responsible for those
      backdoors, and you would be well advised to review any and all code
      commits by Wright as well as the other developers he worked with
      originating from NETSEC.

      This is also probably the reason why you lost your DARPA funding, they
      more than likely caught wind of the fact that those backdoors were
      present and didn't want to create any derivative products based upon
      the same.

      This is also why several inside FBI folks have been recently
      advocating the use of OpenBSD for VPN and firewalling implementations
      in virtualized environments, for example Scott Lowe is a well
      respected author in virtualization circles who also happens top be on
      the FBI payroll, and who has also recently published several tutorials
      for the use of OpenBSD VMs in enterprise VMware vSphere deployments.

      Merry Christmas…

      Gregory Perry
      Chief Executive Officer
      GoVirtual Education

      "VMware Training Products & Services"

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      • Cry HavokC
        Cry Havok
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        Discussed to death in various online forums last year. I think this post nails it nicely:

        this is FUD if not an outright fraud

        Please at least Google before you start posting old news ;)

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        • J
          jits
          last edited by

          Well, I didn't know this and it came as a surprise. Besides, December 2010 is 4 months ago. Still smells fresh to me, and with governments ferocious appetite for information and control, this doesn't strike me as "FUD" or "fraud".

          Reality is relative and when the government puts their interpretation of guilt on your innocence, they tend to freeze your assets, lock you up, throw away the key and laugh all the way to the bank, counting your money while CNN and MSNBC gets their cut to make you the criminal of the century, so I'd be VERY careful to simply dismiss this as fraud.

          Allen Stanford is a very good example of what envy can have done to an otherwise innocent man.

          I'll post something a bit more timely next time. thanks.

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          • Cry HavokC
            Cry Havok
            last edited by

            The article is also trying to spin mountains out of molehills. ISTR that nothing conclusive was found, other than the fact that the code that was being called into question had been through 10 years of changes since. There has been nothing found to support the allegations.

            Healthy paranoia isn't wrong and I'd certainly suggest anybody concerned by these allegations do their own reading and investigation. I just wouldn't recommend taking anything like this at face value without checking the actual facts.

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            • J
              jits
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              Well, true. Checking the facts is always a very good idea too. I'm not at all concerned either way because as one NATO officer puts it…they've got warehouse size buildings with Cray supercomputers dedicated to this and you honestly think your little email with your little PGP keys have not been decoded and sent on it's merry little way? (Speaking in terms ofcourse)

              And who knows, unless you check the facts, that code could have changed to make the man in the middle become the man in between..just saying. Ofcourse these are all allegations...as always.

              Jits.

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