Postfix - antispam and relay package

darklogic

Sorry, I meant relay off the pfsense box. My mail server would not act as an open relay.

marcelloc

I am going to assume that they are misconfigured host because I know they are not spam emails.

Did you tested name resolution oh the remote host header info?

Also, if I add their domain address to the CIDR allow, wouldn't that allow their mail server to relay off ours according to the text I am reading at the bottom of that form field?

When using postscreen, the documentations says(correct me if I'm wrong) that this only prevents blocking.
When postscreen is disabled, any ip on CIDR allows relay on your server.

Can you test this with any other external ip?

darklogic

I have been using mxtoolbox.com for testing. One of the domains I am trying to figure out why it is getting blocked is clemansnelson.com

When I do a test on mxtoolbox.com for mail.clemansnelson.com I get the following.

220 CNASRV.CNA.local Microsoft ESMTP MAIL Service ready at Fri, 21 Oct 2011 12:59:31 -0400

OK - 24.123.130.226 resolves to mail.clemansnelson.com
Warning - Reverse DNS does not match SMTP Banner
0 seconds - Good on Connection time
Not an open relay.
5.335 seconds - Warning on Transaction time

Thanks,

MDP

darklogic

How would I go about disabling postscreen just to see if the mails start to come through. I thought I did disable once by simply unselecting the after greeting checks and disabling Zombie Blocker?

marcelloc

Can you see that there is a warning for this domain on your test?

I've made some tests here and mail.clemansnelson.com has a valid dns entry and it's related as SPF for clemansnelson.com.

check if your dns has same info and if postfix erros say that worng hostname is mail.clemansnelson.com or something else.

If you disable postscreen, the error will remain as it is done in header check.

darklogic

Here is the message minus user email name and our domain name.

postfix/smtpd[10950]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from mail.clemansnelson.com[24.123.130.226]: 450 4.7.1 <cnasrv.cna.local>: Helo command rejected: Host not found; from= someone@clemansnelson.comto= someone@mydomain.comproto=ESMTP helo= <cnasrv.cna.local>When you say my DNS, our you referring to my internal DNS or external WAN DNS from the firewall?

Thanks,

MDP</cnasrv.cna.local>/someone@mydomain.com /someone@clemansnelson.com</cnasrv.cna.local>

darklogic

I have spotted about 6 other domains that I know are not spam that is getting the same message above. If I disable the Postfix forwarder and then do a temporary NAT and port forward of SMTP:25 to our internal mail server. The transparent spam filters we have will allow the message through and they do a lot of the same checks. I must have something misconfigured on postfix, or these host are not configured correctly. I am not willing to say something is wrong with the package because we are still getting a lot of good e-mails coming through.

Up above I posted my base config, can you see anything that would be causing the issue in that config?

Thanks,

MDP

marcelloc

@darklogic:

postfix/smtpd[10950]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from mail.clemansnelson.com[24.123.130.226]: 450 4.7.1 <cnasrv.cna.local>: Helo command rejected: Host not found; from= someone@clemansnelson.comto= someone@mydomain.comproto=ESMTP helo= <cnasrv.cna.local></cnasrv.cna.local>/someone@mydomain.com /someone@clemansnelson.com</cnasrv.cna.local>

The problem is this : helo=<cnasrv.cna.local></cnasrv.cna.local>

Helo host in smtp negotiaton must exist. If you allow any host in SMTP helo, you are opening your server for a lot of spam.

Many STMP admins 'foget' to configure their servers, it's normal.

In any way I suggest you to disable spam checks.

EDIT:

Note that any client behind a misconfigured server will receive this erros for many domains, so they can forward it to SMTP 'admins'

darklogic

Well, as much as I hated to, I disabled the spam checks and saved, then disabled and saved and then renabled postfix and saved.

I am still getting the same messages?

Thanks,

MDP

marcelloc

And about your config, I suggest you to change RBL threshold to 2.

As I told you, this host error is got by header check, not postscreen.
See configuration files options in gui.

in main.cf

#Don't talk to mail systems that don't know their own hostname.
smtpd_helo_required = yes
smtpd_helo_restrictions = reject_unknown_helo_hostname

This is a feature, not a bug or false positive.

Don't think the problem is with your setup.

darklogic

Ok, I am starting to see now what you are saying. On the main config code you pointed out, Should I change smtpd_helo_required = yes to = no or change smtpd_helo_restrictions = reject_unknown_helo_hostname

Like you said, I am afraid I will open the gates for flooding of spam. We have transparent backend filters, but I was hoping to kill most of it at the gateway level.

So what would you suggest at this point. I changed my RBL from 1 to 2.

Thanks for all your help,

MDP

marcelloc

Send a email to postmaster@ domains you identify that misconfiguration.

Or try CIDR with remote SMTPS While using postscreen

invaluement

@darklogic:

RBL with = dnsbl.sorbs.net, bl.spamcop.net2, dnslb.local-5, cbl.abuseat.org, b.barracudacentral.org

MDP,

Hi. I'm the owner/manager of invaluement.com and the host name you listed above for using invaluement.com as an RBL is WRONG!!!! (I deleted it in my quote of your post.. see post for what I'm talking about)

Anyone using that host name as an RBL will ONLY get rejected queries. This a waste of other's resources–since anyone adding a bogus RBL only adds wasted time to the processing of each message. Therefore, please edit your post above to remove that reference to invaluement.

Even if you had the correct host name, it would STILL get blocked because access to invaluement is ONLY available to paying subscribers via RSYNC to rbldnsd files, which are then hosted locally.

An invaluement subscription is VERY INEXPENSIVE... and locally hosted RBLs on an rbldnsd server are extremely FAST--which helps your filtering to go FASTER and become more scalable--could even save you $$ on hardware upgrades in the future! Subscription information can be found here:

http://dnsbl.invaluement.com/subscribe/

Thanks and please let me know if you have any questions.

darklogic

marcelloc,

Can you confirm if that last post from invaluement is true? I noticed they are a new user with that being their first post. Looks a little shady.

Also I e-mail postmaster at those domains with nothing yet. Also, I am not sure what you were meaning with "Or try CIDR with remote SMTPS While using postscreen"?

Thanks,

MDP

marcelloc

The Rbl list in package example is just an example for how to configure Rbl list.

You MUST take care on what list you choose. There is also a link in the package for a lot of Rbl lists, free and paid.

And about the emails you sent, just be patient. You can also look for other emails on domains web page.

darklogic

I clicked the link, but I am not sure what list are free and which ones are paid?

darklogic

marcelloc,

I have some new info for you as requested. I have compared the past 3 weeks of SPAM data on our backend SPAM filter reports, and they have been very close from week-to-week of around 650 to 700 SPAM e-mails per week. This past weeks reports since the postfix forwarder package has been installed, has litterally cut that report down to around 190 to 200 SPAM e-mails. This is without any mail scanner or Spamassin added to the postfix forwarder.

So right now we are seeing about a 300% decrease in SPAM on just the first layer of filtering at the gateway level. Very Nice…

Any idea on when that mailscanner feature will be added?

marcelloc

Great news,

Looking my logs what I see is that nasty emails like fake domains, virus, phishing, etc are almost 100% blocked with postfix. Comercial mail that has real smtp info can be easly blocked using ACLS.

Any idea on when that mailscanner feature will be added?

I think i will release a mailscanner-dev version with freebsd 8.1-release packages to get it working until pfsense packages are done.

Thanks for your feedback

invaluement

@darklogic:

marcelloc,

Can you confirm if that last post from invaluement is true? I noticed they are a new user with that being their first post. Looks a little shady.

Here is confirmation. See message to 'darklogic' at the bottom of this page: http://dnsbl.invaluement.com/about/
…I couldn't do that if this wasn't legit!

marcelloc

I've also included this in Rbl field list info:

THIS IS JUST AN EXAMPLE, CHECK IF ANY LIST YOU CHOOSE IS PAID OR FREE!
ex: dnsbl.sorbs.net, bl.spamcop.net2, dnslb.local-5, b.barracudacentral.org