PfBlocker

marcelloc

Great, I look forward to it.

Actually, I think pfsense would benefit from an enhanced aliastable feature, that would maintain (collect data, process, store) IP ranges of interest as text files in CIDR-notation fomat in /var/db/aliastables and load them into pf tables.

Those would include the usual IP black-list sources (e.g. Spamhaus' drop.lasso, DShield etc), country IP ranges (though I personally don't favor the practice of blocking entire countries) but also IP ranges of popular sites (Amazon EC2, Facebook, Google, Hotmail, SAP) to be black-listed or white-listed.

I think it's a feature that will be increasingly asked for, as more companies move to SaaS http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_as_a_service provider

In fact I recently suggested it Feature #1901: Maintain IP range tables for popular Internet sites having that in mind.

Isn't this the main feature of pfBlocker lists??

tommyboy180

@marcelloc:

Isn't this the main feature of pfBlocker lists??

Yup. Exactly.

dhatz,
iblocklist.com has all those lists you asked for and more. p2p is a widely used format and is incredibly popular across many websites.

@dhatz:

…Actually, I think pfsense would benefit from an enhanced aliastable feature, that would maintain (collect data, process, store) IP ranges of interest as text files in CIDR-notation fomat in /var/db/aliastables and load them into pf tables….

That is exactly what is working in pfblocker right now!

@dhatz:

….Those would include the usual IP black-list sources (e.g. Spamhaus' drop.lasso, DShield etc), country IP ranges (though I personally don't favor the practice of blocking entire countries) but also IP ranges of popular sites (Amazon EC2, Facebook, Google, Hotmail, SAP) to be black-listed or white-listed….

That is exactly what the ipblocklist feature does in pfblocker. Your lists just have to follow p2p format which iblocklist.com has for the lists that you want!

pfblocker gives users more power when it comes to blocking IP ranges (country sources and list sources), whitelisting IP ranges (country sources and list sources), whitelisting popular IPs of sites like Google, Hotmail, etc, and are updated frequently by the list maintainer.
pfblocker already does everything that you are asking for!

dhatz

Well, I haven't tried it yet, but given the name pfBlocker I assumed it was mainly about blocking :D

PS: How "safe" is list.iblocklist.com as a source (site security, DNS hijacking, GPG signing etc) ?

tommyboy180

@dhatz:

Well, I haven't tried it yet, but given the name pfBlocker I assumed it was mainly about blocking :D

lol, so you're asking for features without even testing the software? Thanks.

marcelloc

@dhatz:

Well, I haven't tried it yet, but given the name pfBlocker I assumed it was mainly about blocking :D

PS: How "safe" is list.iblocklist.com as a source (site security, DNS hijacking, GPG signing etc) ?

I will follow Johnnybe suggestion and increase pfBlocker description for better understanding.

AhnHEL

@marcelloc:

send me your lists in PM. I'll try on my vm.

PM sent, thank you.

johnnybe

@marcelloc:

@dhatz:

Well, I haven't tried it yet, but given the name pfBlocker I assumed it was mainly about blocking :D

PS: How "safe" is list.iblocklist.com as a source (site security, DNS hijacking, GPG signing etc) ?

I will follow Johnnybe suggestion and increase pfBlocker description for better understanding.

Sounds good. Do it… do it. Thanks. ;D

marcelloc

php: : There were error(s) loading the rules: /tmp/rules.debug:18: cannot define table pfBlockerInbound: Cannot allocate memory pfctl: Syntax error in config file: pf rules not loaded - The line in question reads [18]: table <pfblockerinbound> persist file "/var/db/aliastables/pfBlockerInbound.txt"
Oct 30 02:11:29 	php: : New alert found: There were error(s) loading the rules: /tmp/rules.debug:18: cannot define table pfBlockerInbound: Cannot allocate memory pfctl: Syntax error in config file: pf rules not loaded The line in question reads [18]: table <pfblockerinbound> persist file "/var/db/aliastables/pfBlockerInbound.txt"
Oct 30 02:11:26 	php: : The command '/sbin/pfctl -o basic -f /tmp/rules.debug' returned exit code '1', the output was '/tmp/rules.debug:18: cannot define table pfBlockerInbound: Cannot allocate memory pfctl: Syntax error in config file: pf rules not loaded'</pfblockerinbound></pfblockerinbound>

~~I seems to be a table hard limit. Even when setting Firewall Maximum Table Entries higher then 900000, pfctl fails to apply tables larger then this value.~~

EDIT:

There is no hard limit.
I found two issues:

pfsense Firewall Maximum Table Entries option may require to be 2x table size applied. I'm checking this.
To increase a table in pfctl, you must kill it to free old table used and create a new one. patch applied to pfBlocker

pfBlocker 0.1.4 will include these fixes.

marcelloc

@onhel:

PM sent, thank you.

Take a look on description of lists you selected. Level1 list from iblocklist is not nasty.

List Information

List name: level1
Author: Bluetack
Author's website: bluetack.co.uk
Author's description:
Companies or organizations who are clearly involved with trying to stop filesharing.
Companies which anti-p2p activity has been seen from.
Companies that produce or have a strong financial interest in copyrighted material.
Government ranges or companies that have a strong financial interest in doing work for governments.
Legal industry ranges.
IPs or ranges of ISPs from which anti-p2p activity has been observed.

sekular

Just want to confirm that the current version has resolved the problem that I reported in the country block thread.

I am still unable to deselect a country from the country lists. Once I have clicked in to a list I am unable to select none. If you could add a blank line that does not apply any list that could resolve it. Maybe that problem is browser specific?

marcelloc

I am still unable to deselect a country from the country lists. Once I have clicked in to a list I am unable to select none. If you could add a blank line that does not apply any list that could resolve it. Maybe that problem is browser specific?

Just hold CTRL and then unselect country.

johnpoz

Just curious – what is actually the point of this? Would not the default block rule just drop packets from these IPs anyway, unless they were in answer to something you requested in the first place.

Why would you be talking to these IPs in the first place, so other than say not logging this traffic Im not quite grasping the point of this package other than say something like running p2p software and you don't want to connect to any of these IPs, etc.

tommyboy180

@johnpoz:

Just curious – what is actually the point of this? Would not the default block rule just drop packets from these IPs anyway, unless they were in answer to something you requested in the first place.

Why would you be talking to these IPs in the first place, so other than say not logging this traffic Im not quite grasping the point of this package other than say something like running p2p software and you don't want to connect to any of these IPs, etc.

Lets say you run an email relay or have a website but you constantly get SPAMd or your website constantly gets hit by bad IPs. What can you do to block them all? Nothing really unless you take all your time and dedicate it to blocking each individual IP AFTER something was done.
What if you run a hotel or an open AP but you don't want people to visit mass sites or use p2p that is encrypted that gets past any layer7 filter.

Basically the uses and abilities of this package are endless. This package has it all and will help network admins secure their network even easier.

I have a user that works at a nuclear research facility. He uses countryblock to avoid other countries from corporate espionage. After using countryblock to block countries they don't have any business with their network attacks immediately dropped significantly. The benefits of this package is outstanding for admins all around the world.

marcelloc

version 0.1.4 is almost done.

some fixes and new gui options will be included for even more control on lists.

johnpoz

Yeah that dawned on me after I posted ;) If your running any sort of service that is open to the public, email/web/ntpd/ftp/etc then yeah it makes sense.. Might have to give it a test run, what would be nice is if it logged hits to this rule in a different log vs just firewall log so could see what kind of traffic getting from the bad IPs – for curiosity sake.

I don't really run anything open to the public other than p2p and ntpd (pool.ntp member) My ssh and openvpn access is locked down to require cert, etc. So no issue with bruteforce and and have linux box that runs sshd blocking IPs on 4 bad attempts anyway to keep the logs from filling up.

kevross33

If possible could you add in block lists for the following hostile lists:

Russian Business Network (bad), dshield and botnet CnCs - http://rules.emergingthreats.net/fwrules/emerging-Block-IPs.txt
Compromised hosts - rules.emergingthreats.net/blockrules/compromised-ips.txt
Russian business network malvertisers - http://rules.emergingthreats.net/blockrules/rbn-malvertisers-ips.txt
Ciarmy list - http://ciarmy.com/

I blocked these inbound and outbound on my firewall already by linking a URL alias to these lists so it downloads them and then put that Alias in a block all traffic to and from on LAN & WAN interfaces and that stops my network talking to these IPs.

It would be nice though to have a tool where I could say click to block them and it will put the correct block in the firewall. You can get seperate lists for Dshield, RBN etc. I think this would help extend lots of blocking capabilities of bad hosts, malware command and control servers, bad servers distributing malware etc to normal users.

marcelloc

@kevross33:

If possible could you add in block lists for the following hostile lists:

Russian Business Network (bad), dshield and botnet CnCs - http://rules.emergingthreats.net/fwrules/emerging-Block-IPs.txt

Compromised hosts - rules.emergingthreats.net/blockrules/compromised-ips.txt

Russian business network malvertisers - http://rules.emergingthreats.net/blockrules/rbn-malvertisers-ips.txt

Ciarmy list - http://ciarmy.com/

I blocked these inbound and outbound on my firewall already by linking a URL alias to these lists so it downloads them and then put that Alias in a block all traffic to and from on LAN & WAN interfaces and that stops my network talking to these IPs.

It would be nice though to have a tool where I could say click to block them and it will put the correct block in the firewall. You can get seperate lists for Dshield, RBN etc. I think this would help extend lots of blocking capabilities of bad hosts, malware command and control servers, bad servers distributing malware etc to normal users.

It will be in version 0.1.4. these lists has only single ips.

dhatz

The first one (http://rules.emergingthreats.net/fwrules/emerging-Block-IPs.txt) is a mix of single IPs and CIDR, apparently discrete lists concatenated one after another.

tommyboy180

@dhatz:

The first one (http://rules.emergingthreats.net/fwrules/emerging-Block-IPs.txt) is a mix of single IPs and CIDR, apparently discrete lists concatenated one after another.

That list seems to be a combination of some lists on iblocklist.com. It looks like it's already available in a format that pfblocker could use in version 1.3.
Check iblocklist.com for any lists that you want. I'm guessing chances are it's there.

hubsd

interesting package !

can I use all list with an Alix box ? (AMD Geode / 256 MB RAM), I use 37% of RAM on my system.