Watchguard XTM 5 Series
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@t-rexky Hi - we decommissioned a couple of gen 2 (04/26/2010 Bios) XTM510's last year. We've been running pfSense as routers on vmWare for several years but it's always a bit of a challenge having them virtual when it comes time to shut down the environment. If I can get the XTM510's converted I'll use them instead of the VM's that have served so well for the last couple of years.
Long story short, have succeeded in copying an install image to the 1GB CF and then installing 2.4.4 64bit to a 120MB SSD and booting to that. Interfaces are up and all seems green. Getting ready to replace the original Celeron 440's with a couple CoreDuo E5700's that I picked up off of eBay.
Can I use the your BIOS image to update my current locked American Megatrends 080015 (Rev. 8.15) with the Core Duo E5700's?
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Yes you can. You would probably want to use the most recent file of his or the file I modded long ago as they don't contain DSDT speedstep data which the other do and wouldn't match your CPU.
Steve
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@stephenw10 Thanks for your reply - I assume his latest that will work for me is this?:
t-rexky 5 months ago
I can only imagine how many hours you spent on this! Reverse-engineering can be a lot of fun, but with a general purpose chip and so many possibilities this must have been labour of love…I modified the most recent version of my unlocked BIOS to implement the LED initialization to red and the adventurous can obtain the file from my dropbox:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/o09qcz21apu4dk6/xtm515-bios1.3-unlocked1.9.led.rom.zip?dl=0
This has been tested on one of my units and it works fine. Please note that this version does not implement any SpeedStep definitions - it is effectively the unlocked WatchGuard factory BIOS with all my other tweaks.
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Yes, I believe that should work though I've not tested it myself.
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@stephenw10 Well, better to be safe than sorry, I have pulled down both of your images - just to verify -
There were a few posts several years ago that said you had to have EXACTLY the 02/03/2010 BIOS, but from what I understand from you and t-rexky your versions are ok to flash over the 04/26/2010 BIOS? Since I have spent a bit of time and a little dough shopping to get new disks, cpus and memory, I don't want to end up with nothing to put them in!Thanks again for your responses and all the work you guys have put into this over the years.
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Well you have two shots!
But backup your existing rom file first. You can always write it back with an SPI device it you really have to.
Steve
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@stephenw10 Deed is done. Thanks Steve. Used your image and went smooth as silk.
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** Bounty available **
Hello all, this may not be the mega-millions bounty, but I'll throw $20 on the table.I have a Watchguard XTM 505, that was working fine with pfSense. However, like all tech idiots, I figured I'll flash the bios so that I can boot the Watchguard in terminal without having to wait, but just plug it in (console cable) start it up and watch the little characters dance on the screen :)
So, I flashed the bios, no problem all went fine, I rebooted into pfSense after that, again all went fine. But when I went to make changes to the bios, using putty, the highlighted item was the same color as the background (which I didn't realize at the time) and I think I changed a few settings I shouldn't have. pfSense didn't boot!!!
So, back into the bios and I selected "Choose preferred settings" (or something like that), F10 Save & Exit. pfSense won't boot again!!! Arrgghhhhhh!
So, flashing again isn't going to happen as I can't get pfSense to boot, which means I can't get out to console and, unfortunately, all I know of Linux is that they use a cool penguin for a mascot!
If someone can:
a: tell me how to reflash the bios (and I'll need a bios file)
or
b: what are the bios settings (a list of settings or screen shots) to make the dang thing work again.Let me know what you need and I'll get the thing back on track. Once done, I'll shoot the $20 over on Paypal.
Cheers,
MadDogDeanPS: The Watchguard has the 02/03/2010 BIOS
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What BIOS image exactly did you flash to it?
First thing to try here is just reset the CMOS using the jumper on the board. That will give you back the default values. And that should boot pfSense. It depends on what BIOS image you put in there though.
All images should boot from CF, even the default BIOS, so you can try writing a Nano image to a CF card and booting that:
https://nyifiles.pfsense.org/mirror/downloads/pfSense-CE-2.3.5-RELEASE-2g-amd64-nanobsd.img.gzSteve
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Hi Steve, the bios I flashed was from Alpha labs over at https://alpha-labs.net/2017/08/pfsense-on-watchguard/
I was following this thread on the forum, but with over 800 postings, it became a little overwhelming. Over at Alpha Labs, the author, Christian, did quite a thorough write-up and step by to do it.
The ROM is xtm5_83.rom (this is the one that seems to be floating in the ether)
I'll give that a try to reset the CMOS and see how that fares.
I already downloaded the 2.3.5 image and dropped it on a 4GB CF. That side of things should be good. I'll get to the box and work my wonders.
Cheers,
MadDogDean -
Ok, that's the rom I made some year ago now (unless it was changed without renaming it).
So mostly that should just give you access to the settings. I'll have to double check the settings but I think 'always boot from CF' was still enabled by default. Disabling that will allow you to boot from USB to run an install. IT should boot from SATA though with the default settings.Steve
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@stephenw10 Thanks Steve, I'll check the "always boot from CF", and I'll give a go to reset the CMOS settings.
I'm not at the box right now, which jumper is it?
Cheers,
MadDogDean -
@stephenw10
Steve, or any of you other brainiacs, which is the CMOS jumper?
I was able to find the Lanner FW-7581 manual wherein it says the CMOS reset is J5 - ha! There is no J5 on my board. and according to the mb diagram, there should be a CMOS jumper near the CF, but on my board it's not there.
Is there a CMOS reset jumper on these boards, or just "pull the battery, have a beer, come back and it'll drain and reset"?
Cheers,
MadDogDean -
@MadDogDean Yes, if you cannot find the clear CMOS jumper or contacts then the battery removal works. You can wait for a few minutes with no battery (and the unit unplugged from the mains of course), or if you are impatient you can use a conductive object to short the two battery socket contacts to discharge the circuit on the board instantly. If you are concerned about force discharging the circuit then just wait it out...
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@t-rexky Thanks for that. Pulled the battery, had a couple beers, and now I think I better wait till tomorrow to goof with the rest ;)
BTW, if it is of help, I can post the Lanner FW-7581 User Guide on Dropbox - the two mb's are almost the same, and maybe it'll help someone.
Cheers,
MadDogDean -
Don't drink and firewall!
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@stephenw10 @t-rexky
Well I'll be a monkey's uncle. 4 hours, 6 beers later, reinstalled the battery and booted straight into pfSense. Tada!!! Enough screwing with the BIOS! Lets get down to business - yeehaa!If you guys want to DM with your Paypal address, I'll split the Bounty.
Now my next adventure is to scour the forum and figure out how to do a multi-wan, when your ISP delivers both channels using the same Gateway. Any suggestions for good, cheap NAT routers would be good.
Or, if anyone has experience with the Cisco Catalyst 2960 (24 P0ort POE switch) - is it possible to set up a couple ports as a NAT to send to the pfSense in order to fool it into multi-wan to use these 2 same Gateway's channels.
Our ISP is part of a duopoly and both are equally as crappy as the other - but what other choice is there...
Cheers,
MadDogDean -
@maddogdean said in Watchguard XTM 5 Series:
Now my next adventure is to scour the forum and figure out how to do a multi-wan, when your ISP delivers both channels using the same Gateway. Any suggestions for good, cheap NAT routers would be good.
The others are going to be smarter about this than I am but the first thought I had was if you could route one via IPv6 and one via IPv4? This would allow you to use the load balancing and fail over functions of pfSense.
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@fffrank Interesting idea, never thought of it. I'll need to see if the ISP uses IPv6 or not (or even knows what it is)
I am actually staying with friends in the Philippines and things here are almost as backwards as some people think. No offense intended to the Filipinos (in general they are nice people), but when it comes to "Service" this country is on another planet!!!
Cheers
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Well, not sure about the IPv6 route. Our internet comes in via Motorola Canopy radio and, after walking through the entire menu, I don't see anything relating to using an IPv6 address. I wonder if the best option is to get a cheap Dlink/Linksys or other wired router and use it as a NAT between the Canopy and the pfSense box.
