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      anoxy
      last edited by

      Hi,

      Sorry to disturbe the subject.

      I have bought a WatchGuard XTM 505 and I will change the processor and the RAM.

      About the processor, I have found a Pentium Dual Core E5300, does it fit with the XTM 505 ? Will it works?

      For the RAM, I read that we can add up to 8Go but I think 4Go is adequate ?

      I want to use all links at Gigabit speed, I have fiber that provide me 990mb/s download and 600mb/s in upload.

      I will add an SSD with PFSense.

      Do you think my config is good?

      Thanks!

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      • stephenw10S
        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
        last edited by stephenw10

        Yes, it probably will work. Yes it will pass Gigabit line rate (941Mbps) but it will be quite taxed doing so. I would just get an E7500 C2D as they cost peanuts these days unless you already have the E5300 in which case test it and see.

        4GB is enough for almost everything sane in that level of device. I never bothered putting more than 2GB in mine. I still use it for testing stuff on occasion. 😉

        Steve

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          anoxy
          last edited by

          Ok thanks! I have ordered an E7500 and 4Go DDR2 800.

          I currently have a PFSense running in old stuff, with an SSD. Can I just take the SSD to the Watchguard ? or it would be better to make a fresh install ? My old stuff just has 3 gigabit ports so if I just move the SSD I guess I just have to re-configure network interface?

          Thanks

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          • stephenw10S
            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
            last edited by

            Yes you would need to reconfigure the interfaces if they are not em in the previous box.

            Yes you could just move the SSD. If the previous device does not have a serial console be sure to enable that in Sys > Adv > Admin Access before moving it.

            A fresh install is probably a good idea. You will have to boot from CF though unless/until you have swapped out the BIOS to allow USB booting.

            Steve

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              anoxy
              last edited by

              I see. Thanks for the help, I think I will make a fresh install :)

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              • chpalmerC
                chpalmer
                last edited by chpalmer

                So..... I took my retired XTM5 box to a radio site (some weeks ago) and have it behind a Cradlepoint doing camera duty nowadays..

                If I try to use the gig ports to connect to the Cradlepoint.. if the Cradlepoint goes down for any reason such as a DHCP address change then the ports on the box will flap leaving me unable to reach it. Im 60 miles away and connected via openvpn.

                If I use the 100/10 port then Im fine. Since my top speeds via Verizon are less than 20/15 this port is fine for a WAN.

                It has always flapped under certain criteria I was never in a position to run down. It was a primary box while here and it did not happen very often.

                But it makes me wonder if the flapping is a driver issue. I installed the latest 2.5 snapshot while I was on site today and will test that at some point but seems fishy to me.

                Triggering snowflakes one by one..
                Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4590T CPU @ 2.00GHz on an M400 WG box.

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                • stephenw10S
                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                  last edited by

                  Hmm, weird. On all the em ports?

                  Can you set a fixed speed/duplex to avoid it?

                  Steve

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                  • chpalmerC
                    chpalmer @stephenw10
                    last edited by

                    @stephenw10

                    Ill try that next time Im up there. Im risking a snapshot update right now to see if I can break it again. Ill be up there before the end of the week anyways so can rescue it if need be. And it came back up fine.

                    Ill wait till I get up there and switch back to em0 and play with it there.

                    Triggering snowflakes one by one..
                    Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4590T CPU @ 2.00GHz on an M400 WG box.

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                      dog2bert
                      last edited by dog2bert

                      Just got my XTM 5 series today. Installed pfSense 2.4.5 to an SSD. I did it with the VGA. Should I have used console?
                      Booting with the console cable I get it halting at Auto Detecting?
                      Is this when I unplug the cable, plug it back in, and should see pfSense booting?

                      xm5_boot_with_8N1.JPG

                      putty.JPG

                      New screen I was able to get to, but can't send F1 or F2
                      xtm5_more.JPG

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                      • stephenw10S
                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                        last edited by

                        You would have to enable the serrial console or install from the serial console image (where it's enabled by default) to see output on the serial console. Though you would normally see some output from the bootloader there if it was trying to boot.

                        I assume you installed in something else and then moved the drive across?
                        What image, exactly, did you use to install from?

                        You still have the original BIOS it looks like?

                        Steve

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                          dog2bert @stephenw10
                          last edited by

                          @stephenw10 I still have the original bios.

                          I installed version 2.4.5-p1 AMD64 USB VGA on another computer and moved the drive.
                          I tried installing 2.4.5-p1 AMD64 USB Serial to the SSD, but don't see any video output and don't think that computer has serial.

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                          • stephenw10S
                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                            last edited by

                            Ok, did you enable the serial console in System > Advanced > Admin Access on the other device before moving it? If not try swapping it back and doing that first.

                            The other way to do this is to write the serial install image to CF card, the XTM5 will boot from that with the standard BIOS and you can then install to SSD directly at the serial console.

                            Steve

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                              dog2bert @stephenw10
                              last edited by

                              @stephenw10 Just wrote the console image to the CF card and now it shows up in console but looks stuck here:
                              put2.JPG

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                              • stephenw10S
                                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                last edited by

                                Are you sure you used the serial console image? That's one of the last things you would see on dual consoles before it switches to serial as primary console only.

                                It could be an issue with that SSD. Does it boot further if you disconnect it?

                                Steve

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                                  dog2bert @stephenw10
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                                  @stephenw10
                                  I flashed the console version the 1GB CF card and it will boot without the SSD attached.
                                  When I attach the SSD I get the following interuption in the console and can't go back to the install process.
                                  ssd.JPG

                                  I did install again to the SSD via my PC with the VGA version and set System > Advanced > Admin Access.
                                  On my desktop I have to change to IDE from ACHI.
                                  For Partition scheme, I tried to do MBR but then my desktop couldn't boot from the ssd.
                                  So I set it up with GPT, but maybe the WatchGuard can't boot from this.

                                  part.JPG

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                                  • stephenw10S
                                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                    last edited by

                                    It's not a UEFI bios, MBR should work.

                                    So it only boots as far as the installer menu if you boot without the SSD attached?

                                    SATA is not hot-plugable like that I would not expect that to work. However it looks like there is low level issue with that SSD for some reason, which is odd since the one I have has worked with pretty much everything I've thrown at it! Can you try a different SATA device?

                                    Steve

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                                      dog2bert @stephenw10
                                      last edited by

                                      @stephenw10 With PF on the CF card, it will boot and install without the SSD attached. Unfortunately, the 1 GB CF card is not large enough to complete the install.

                                      I have tried another SATA cable and a regular HDD. They are blank and formatted to NTFS.

                                      What I need to try is either getting a larger CF card, what does the WatchGuard support?
                                      Or find a computer that will let me boot with MBR.

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                                      • stephenw10S
                                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                        last edited by

                                        Pretty sure the XTM5 supports large CF cards. pfSense doesn't need much though, it will run in 2GB. However you can't boot the installer from CF and install to that same card, you would need to install to it in something else.
                                        It's not usually this difficult, you may have something bad in the SATA there...

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                                          dog2bert @stephenw10
                                          last edited by

                                          @stephenw10 It seemed like installing to the same CF card was working until it ran out of space

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                                          • stephenw10S
                                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                            last edited by

                                            Hmm, that's not intended to work shall we say. You might be able to do it and then play with the bootloader but I would expect to see issues doing that.

                                            It should boot with a SATA device attached.

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