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    • B Offline
      BattleCruiser
      last edited by

      Hi everyone, I have a really interesting question on installation.

      I have been trying for days.

      My setup:

      Linux live usb on usb JP5 as sdc
      Image of 2.0.1 nanobsd on JP3 as sdb
      and
      16gb msata on J6 as sda.

      I am trying to get the image from sdb to sda but have not been successful.

      could someone help me with the proper installation code.

      I have tried all the helps and docs.

      Thank you for any help that you can provide.

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        wallabybob
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        It would be helpful to know what you have been trying and what has been the outcome.

        I'm not familiar with the details of what is in a net6501.

        Exactly what nano BSD image is on the USB stick? Have you already written the download file there as a disk image or is it there as a file in a FAT partition? Are you expecting to use a video port and keyboard on the net6501 as the console or are you expecting to use a serial port as the console.

        What are you wanting to do with the Linux live USB? Does it successfully boot?

        Since you have a "hard drive" in the box why are you wanting to use a nanoBSD version of pfSense? (I have successfully run the full version of pfSense on a system with a 1GB solid state disk module for over three years.)

        If I recall correctly, there have been a number of reports from net6501 users in the pfSense forums. Maybe some of those reports will provide some helpful clues.

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          BattleCruiser
          last edited by

          @wallabybob:

          It would be helpful to know what you have been trying and what has been the outcome.

          I'm not familiar with the details of what is in a net6501.

          Exactly what nano BSD image is on the USB stick? Have you already written the download file there as a disk image or is it there as a file in a FAT partition? Are you expecting to use a video port and keyboard on the net6501 as the console or are you expecting to use a serial port as the console.

          What are you wanting to do with the Linux live USB? Does it successfully boot?

          Since you have a "hard drive" in the box why are you wanting to use a nanoBSD version of pfSense? (I have successfully run the full version of pfSense on a system with a 1GB solid state disk module for over three years.)

          If I recall correctly, there have been a number of reports from net6501 users in the pfSense forums. Maybe some of those reports will provide some helpful clues.

          I have tried to dd the image pfSense-2.0.1-RELEASE-4g-i386-20111212-1900-nanobsd.img to the mSATA card from the USB memorystick.  This gives a no directory exists error.

          I have also tried the to dd the written image to the mSATA with better results but get an ada: Timeout error.
          the image is pfSense-2.0.1-RELEASE-4g-i386-20111212-1900-nanobsd.img

          I am doing it through the serial port as console as there is no VGA.
          The mSATA is MLC - not ideal for multiple writes.

          I have successfully booted pldrescurecd from a usb stick.  I was never able to get linux as a pxe server to boot.

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          • dotdashD Offline
            dotdash
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            Can't you just use another machine to write the nano image to the drive?
            I've used physdiskwrite to image USB and SSD drives for a net6501.
            I've done it on FreeBSD, not on Linux, but you usually need to pipe gunzip or something to dd unless you already expanded the gz. m0n0 has some notes on common usage http://m0n0.ch/wall/installation_generic.php

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            • jimpJ Offline
              jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
              last edited by

              Try booting from this:

              http://files.chi.pfsense.org/jimp/pfSense-memstick-serial-2.0.1-RELEASE-i386.img.gz

              You can just do a full install to the mSATA from there.

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              • B Offline
                BattleCruiser
                last edited by

                Thank you every one for your help.

                dotdash I am going to try the write on another machine when I get a sata to msata adapter in and try that.

                Jimp I have been able to do an embedded install from the memstick file but everyone has scared me about this due to the msata being a Transcend 16GB MLC mSATA SSD.

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                • jimpJ Offline
                  jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
                  last edited by

                  Once you boot that you can run something like:

                  fetch -o - http://files.chi.pfsense.org/mirror/downloads/pfSense-2.0.1-RELEASE-4g-amd64-nanobsd.img.gz | gzip -dc | dd of=/dev/ad4 obs=64k

                  Where ad4 is the mSATA disk, not sure if it will be ad2, ad4, or ad6.

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                    BattleCruiser
                    last edited by

                    @jimp:

                    Once you boot that you can run something like:

                    fetch -o - http://files.chi.pfsense.org/mirror/downloads/pfSense-2.0.1-RELEASE-4g-amd64-nanobsd.img.gz | gzip -dc | dd of=/dev/ad4 obs=64k

                    Where ad4 is the mSATA disk, not sure if it will be ad2, ad4, or ad6.

                    Just to make sure Jimp:

                    but do you mean, when I get to the pfsense boot menu and i use menu #7 the enter the fetch line?

                    Once again thanks for helping a newbie, and sorry for the silly questions I ask, its been 30 years since I have really worked with anything but windows and dos.

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                    • jimpJ Offline
                      jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
                      last edited by

                      boot the memstick I linked, then press 8 to go to a shell prompt, then type that

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                      • B Offline
                        BattleCruiser
                        last edited by

                        Thank you Jimp, I will try tonight and let you know tomorrow.

                        and once again thank you for the help it is much appreciated.

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                        • B Offline
                          BattleCruiser
                          last edited by

                          Hi Jimp,

                          Just to give you and update, I could not get the install going as you suggested with the memstick version.  When it completed booting in the serial console, it would stop at Booting Complete, and not allow me to go to the shell command.

                          This is not an issue at this time as I have an adapter in shipment and will write the nanobsd to the msata and then change the drive location.

                          Thank you for your help, it was greatly appreciated, and I look forward to getting pfsense up and going next week.

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                          • dotdashD Offline
                            dotdash
                            last edited by

                            Somebody has some notes on the 6501 which I'm too lazy to search for, but if it fails trying to mount root you need to hit a key at the countdown to interrupt the boot. Then you have to
                            set kern.cam.boot_delay=10000
                            boot
                            Once it boots, you have to create a loader.conf.local in /boot with
                            kern.cam.boot_delay=10000
                            to make it permanent.

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                              caldwell
                              last edited by

                              @dotdash:

                              Somebody has some notes on the 6501 which I'm too lazy to search for, but if it fails trying to mount root you need to hit a key at the countdown to interrupt the boot. Then you have to
                              set kern.cam.boot_delay=10000
                              boot
                              Once it boots, you have to create a loader.conf.local in /boot with
                              kern.cam.boot_delay=10000
                              to make it permanent.

                              No matter which image I use, I get the soekris memory test, the 5-4-3-2-1 countdown, and then nothing after that.  I've ordered an mSATA converter, but it's frustrating that there isn't a good solution to this other than more hardware.

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                              • jimpJ Offline
                                jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
                                last edited by

                                The fact that it works for everyone else but not you might indicate something wrong with your board or the process you're doing. Before anything else, make sure you're on the latest BIOS.

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                                  caldwell
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                                  @jimp:

                                  The fact that it works for everyone else but not you might indicate something wrong with your board or the process you're doing. Before anything else, make sure you're on the latest BIOS.

                                  Either Soekris is in the habit of shipping bad boards, or something has changed.  I read this thread and said, "Hmm.  Sounds a lot like the thread I started 2-3 days ago saying the same things."

                                  I used dd on a Mac to copy numerous images to the 4 GB USB drive.  It never would boot on the Soekris 6501.  I got the same thing:  memory check, countdown 5-4-3-2-1.  Then nothing.

                                  How many people buy into the odds that Soekris shipped two bad units to two pfsense users scattered remotely apart from each other?  I don't.

                                  My firmware is 1.41a (USB-bootable, according to Soekris).

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                                  • jimpJ Offline
                                    jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
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                                    If you read back on the Soekris boards you'll also find that it's very picky about the USB sticks it will boot from, I was posting in a thread when the USB code came out with Soren and out of the dozen or so USB sticks I have, I only managed to get it to boot from one. He was trying to acquire a bunch of different sticks to try to narrow down the issue but I'm not sure what happened there, hasn't had an update in a while.

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                                      caldwell
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                                      @jimp:

                                      If you read back on the Soekris boards you'll also find that it's very picky about the USB sticks it will boot from, I was posting in a thread when the USB code came out with Soren and out of the dozen or so USB sticks I have, I only managed to get it to boot from one. He was trying to acquire a bunch of different sticks to try to narrow down the issue but I'm not sure what happened there, hasn't had an update in a while.

                                      Well, this unit is using the 4GB Sandisk Cruiser (tiny thing) that Soekris sells WITH the unit.  You'd think it would work…

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                                      • jimpJ Offline
                                        jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
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                                        You'd think so… I haven't had my hands on one of those, though. The one stick I was able to boot from was a Sandisk though. You might try some of the other ports on the box.

                                        I have had lots of positive feedback from people using my serial memstick and it works for most of us.

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                                          dotdash
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                                          @caldwell:

                                          Well, this unit is using the 4GB Sandisk Cruiser (tiny thing) that Soekris sells WITH the unit.  You'd think it would work…

                                          I used the 4GB Sandisk from Soekris in the last two 6501's I setup. They had the 1.41a bios. It works for me (TM)
                                          Either you did something wrong, or there is an issue with your 6501 or USB stick.
                                          I would try to boot a laptop or something with the USB image. If you can boot another machine with the USB stick, you will know the image is good.
                                          P.S. It's generally considered poor form to hijack a 'related' thread when you have one of your own open.

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                                            dendt
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                                            I installed my first Soekris 6501 today with cheapo usb stick, using the jimp serial image on files.pfsense.org.
                                            I installed it to a 32GB Kingston SSD.
                                            Worked like a charm.

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