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    Installation on Intel D2500CC (atom with dual NIC board)

    Problems Installing or Upgrading pfSense Software
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    • stephenw10S
      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
      last edited by

      No not really.
      There may be some marginal performance increase using 64bit but its small enough you'd have to setup a test to see it. I've seen people argue both ways on this.

      Steve

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        neztik
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        I just picked up a new board. It was listed on ebay as the Intel2500CCE. When I received the board it shows Intel D2500CC. Is there an actual difference between the two?

        From what I could find :

        The 'E' suffix in the model name (e.g., D2500CCE vs D2500CC) signifies that this product is an Intel® Extended Life Product (ELP). ELP products will be available for extended production times (3 years) and are perfect for project use.

        So do you think I have the same thing? I dont see anywhere on the board the "E" just D2500CC.

        Not sure if I should send it back and find one that has "e" listed.

        Any help would be greatly appreciated.

        -Neztik

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          matguy
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          @neztik:

          I just picked up a new board. It was listed on ebay as the Intel2500CCE. When I received the board it shows Intel D2500CC. Is there an actual difference between the two?

          From what I could find :

          The 'E' suffix in the model name (e.g., D2500CCE vs D2500CC) signifies that this product is an Intel® Extended Life Product (ELP). ELP products will be available for extended production times (3 years) and are perfect for project use.

          So do you think I have the same thing? I dont see anywhere on the board the "E" just D2500CC.

          Not sure if I should send it back and find one that has "e" listed.

          Any help would be greatly appreciated.

          -Neztik

          I would think that would only matter if you were expecting to order an (or many) exact replacement as new stock through a standard distributor sometime in the next couple years.  Those designations often are important for system integrators or manufacturers that need to be able to plan their supply chain for a particular product over the next few years.

          Think of it this way, if you were building these as appliances and you needed to make sure each and every one was exactly the same for the planned release of your product, then I'd worry about it.

          For a one off, no, probably not assuming it's otherwise identical, hardware wise.

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            neztik
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            Great! Thanks matguy. I can start building my new router this weekend without having to wait. I am currently running an older i386 system. The plan is to install 2.1 AMD64 and use the 2 onboard nics to VLAN tag.

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              matguy
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              Since that board only supports 4GB of RAM anyway, I would probably stick with x86 (32 bit) pfSense.  The main reason for going with x64 support is to be able to address more than 4GB of RAM, otherwise x86 may be more supportable for you.

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                t3h0th3r
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                @matguy:

                Since that board only supports 4GB of RAM anyway.

                actually, the board supports at least 8GB ram, despite the claims of Intel:

                # uname -rsp;dmesg|grep CPU;dmesg|grep memory
                FreeBSD 9.1-RELEASE amd64
                CPU: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU D2500   @ 1.86GHz (1866.78-MHz K8-class CPU)
                FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 2 CPUs
                cpu0: <acpi cpu="">on acpi0
                cpu1: <acpi cpu="">on acpi0
                p4tcc0: <cpu frequency="" thermal="" control="">on cpu0
                p4tcc1: <cpu frequency="" thermal="" control="">on cpu1
                SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched!
                real memory  = 8589934592 (8192 MB)
                avail memory = 8217665536 (7836 MB)</cpu></cpu></acpi></acpi> 
                

                they are probably trying to make it look less attractive than it is…

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                  car2010
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                  @t3h0th3r:

                  actually, the board supports at least 8GB ram, despite the claims of Intel:

                  # uname -rsp;dmesg|grep CPU;dmesg|grep memory
                  FreeBSD 9.1-RELEASE amd64
                  CPU: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU D2500   @ 1.86GHz (1866.78-MHz K8-class CPU)
                  FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 2 CPUs
                  cpu0: <acpi cpu="">on acpi0
                  cpu1: <acpi cpu="">on acpi0
                  p4tcc0: <cpu frequency="" thermal="" control="">on cpu0
                  p4tcc1: <cpu frequency="" thermal="" control="">on cpu1
                  SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched!
                  real memory  = 8589934592 (8192 MB)
                  avail memory = 8217665536 (7836 MB)</cpu></cpu></acpi></acpi> 
                  

                  Hello t3h0th3r, I am going to use the same board for a new
                  pfsense installation.

                  As I am going to include Snort, Squid + havp and OpenVPN,
                  I was looking for a board with more than 4GB Ram, but the
                  2 Intel Nics convinced me :)

                  Are you running the Intel D2500 or the newer D2500CCE revision?

                  What Ram do you have installed?
                  If possible could you provide the serial number for the memory.

                  Thank you very much!

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                    dquant
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                    Today I installed the D2500CCE. I selected the Jetway JC110-B case which allows for adding two PCI cards, and has two internal fans. It is not very noisy at this moment. The case comes with a wall mount which is very useful as well. The Intel board fits without moving the fans's (which I read somewhere else). The BIOS has a setting for "always on"  on power failure which is useful in my case because the firewall will be installed quite remote. I burned "pfSense-memstick-2.0.2-RELEASE-i386-20121207-1630.img" on a memory stick and installed pfsense from the stick on a harddrive. The display output was a little corrupted but good enough for a "simple" installation (I could read most of the words). The monitor isn't needed after the install, so it is good enough to me.

                    To answer the question above:

                    • board: Intel D2500CCE
                    • Memory: Transcend SO-DIMM DDR3 1333 2Gb

                    Later on I installed Squid proxy. The firewall will be used by a maximum of 75 users and a bandwidth of 60Mbit.

                    Dirk.

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                    • stephenw10S
                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                      last edited by

                      Solid information. Nice first post!  ;)

                      Steve

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                        stuck
                        last edited by

                        besides the first gentleman who posted his idle consumption @ ~20watts
                        has anyone else checked their power consumption at idle? 
                        I thought I read somewhere that these atom 2500's were supposed to idle at <10 watts?

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                          Paul47
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                          My D2500CC idles at 15W using a "Kill-a-watt". I have it running the 64-bit 2.1Beta snapshot. I think the 32-bit beta also worked. Anything else was a problem for me, IIRC. I am using a Picopsu-120 with a 10A (large) power brick, which might account for some of that. A PicoPSU-80 would probably make more sense. I'm using a flash drive, not a hard drive.

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                            tpf
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                            I'm using pfS 2.1 x64 Snapshots full-install@hdd with two Intel D2500CCE board since eight months without any problems, except the serial-console-bug. Services are HAVP, Squid / Dansguardian and OpenVPN on a 50/2,5 cable. VLAN on the Intel NICs works, too.

                            Without cooling the Atom heats to 60 degree celsius. Power consumption with HDD and none -80+ PSU ~30W.

                            pfs_dashboard.png
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                            10 years pfSense! 2006 - 2016

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                              pvoigt
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                              @tpf:

                              I'm using pfS 2.1 x64 Snapshots full-install@hdd with two Intel D2500CCE board since eight months without any problems, except the serial-console-bug. Services are HAVP, Squid / Dansguardian and OpenVPN on a 50/2,5 cable. VLAN on the Intel NICs works, too.

                              Without cooling the Atom heats to 60 degree celsius. Power consumption with HDD and none -80+ PSU ~30W.

                              Nice to hear, that this nice board is handling VLANs correctly - despite some reported problems elsewhere. The Intel is using the same NIC as my board, namely the Intel 82574L and I can confirm not having any VLAN issues.

                              Your measured power consumption seems very realistic according to my experiences with an Atom D525 on a Jetway NF99FL-525. I've measured the power consumption with a power meter during several hours and found ~33 W with one CF, WiFi, one case fan and a standard ATX PSU.

                              Hoping, for a solution of the serial console bug in the near future as it is the same with my board (pfSense 2.0.1 NanoBSD VGA AMD64) :)

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                                n1ko
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                                I got one of these recently too. Running vlans and no troubles (2.1).

                                The traffic output seems to be quite low though, running iperf with single nic and vlans only gets me around ~380Mbps because the cpu gets capped by the interrupts.

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                                  maverick_slo
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                                  Hi guys!

                                  I just got this MB and waiting for my job to end :)
                                  Then install fresh pfSense on it.

                                  Are there any video troubles with it or they all got fixed?

                                  Regards,
                                  M

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                                    maverick_slo
                                    last edited by

                                    Installed and working fine :)

                                    One thing worries me in dmesg:

                                    
                                    kernel: RTC BIOS diagnostic error 80<clock_battery></clock_battery>
                                    

                                    I replaced battery, unplugged, CMOS is remembered so batt works 100%.
                                    Bug?

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                                      maverick_slo
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                                      Wow, I`m quite impressed, traffic between 2 onboard interfaces:

                                      gw.png
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                                      • stephenw10S
                                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                        last edited by

                                        Nearly 700Mbps, that I'd quite impressive for an Atom. Did you make any tweaks? Is that just firewalling?

                                        Steve

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                                          maverick_slo
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                                          Just firewalling, default install, Intel NICs everywhere and powerD in adaptive mode.

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                                            kejianshi
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                                            I've lost track of what you are using for HDD, but…

                                            I'd put it on a SATA HDD or good SSD and be done with it.  They can both be had for cheap.
                                            I find on ebay that people are dumping used SLC SSDs primarily because 120MB/s is just not fast enough for them or they want enormous SSDs.  Since those 2009ish Intel and Samsung SLC SSDs are nearly indestructable, and you don't need massive SATA3 speed or enormous storage, I'd grab one of those.

                                            I recently replaced my WD HDD in my home pfsense with a 64GB Samsung SSD and its.....  Exactly the same as before.
                                            Thats not very exciting, I know, but if it always stays same, and doesn't break I'll be happy.

                                            Its a 64GB SSD and I have it set to use about 30GB for squid cache, so its "over-provisioned" for my use.

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