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    Unexpected traffic from PFSENSE to WAN

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    • L
      lespagnol last edited by

      Dear all,

      I have a strange issue with pfsense (latest version 2.0.1).
      I see unexpected traffic between pfsense and WAN1.

      This is well between pfsense and the WAN, because this traffic is not present on my LAN.
      This traffic use the maximum available bandwidth on WAN1.
      I don't understand what cause this traffic generation.

      • pfsense rebooted > same issue
      • interface shutted down > same issue: the unexpected traffic is generated on WAN2 (still using the maximum available bandwidth) after a while
      • interface unplugged from pfsense > unexpected traffic stop on the WAN hoster monitoring

      Any idea to let me able to resolve this ?
      Many thanks in advance !

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      • L
        lespagnol last edited by

        If think I found what cause this issue, but still not why  :-
        When I activate additionals DNS for my both WANs, I can access to internet webpage (like google.com) from my LAN, but the unexpected traffic is present and overload my bandwidth:

        But at contrary, when I disactivate additionals DNS, I cannot have access to internet webpage (like google.com) from my LAN, but my bandwidth is not overloaded  :D

        Any idea ?  ???

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        • stephenw10
          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator last edited by

          Do you have any packages installed? Which ones?

          Steve

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            lespagnol last edited by

            Hello!
            Only vnstat2, but it has been installed after the first time I seen this issue.
            Except this one, I have no additional script/module/pluggin/package :)

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            • stephenw10
              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator last edited by

              Well that's very odd then.  :-
              I can think of no good reason for that traffic.
              What connections is it making when it happens? Where is the traffic going to/coming from?

              Steve

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              • L
                lespagnol last edited by

                I don't know…
                What can I do to know exaclty ?

                The only thing I know is that it is from my WAN to Internet...  :-\

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                • C
                  cmb last edited by

                  Packet capture on WAN and see what the traffic is.

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                  • L
                    lespagnol last edited by

                    I will test right now and let you know :)

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                    • L
                      lespagnol last edited by

                      10 secondes capturing packages exchanged between Internet on my impacted WAN interface:

                      00:45:50.427527 IP 91.121.164.227 > 109.190.0.52: udp
                      00:45:50.428153 IP 109.190.0.52.61861 > 91.121.164.184.53: UDP, length 38
                      00:45:50.428165 IP 109.190.0.52.61861 > 91.121.164.227.53: UDP, length 38
                      00:45:50.428257 IP 109.190.0.52.19191 > 91.121.164.184.53: UDP, length 38
                      00:45:50.428280 IP 109.190.0.52.19191 > 91.121.164.227.53: UDP, length 38
                      00:45:50.430328 IP 109.190.0.52.62649 > 91.121.164.184.53: UDP, length 38
                      00:45:50.430339 IP 109.190.0.52.62649 > 91.121.164.227.53: UDP, length 38
                      00:45:50.441892 IP 109.190.0.52.13861 > 91.121.164.184.53: UDP, length 38
                      00:45:50.441911 IP 109.190.0.52.13861 > 91.121.164.227.53: UDP, length 38
                      00:45:50.444127 IP 109.190.0.52.24513 > 91.121.164.184.53: UDP, length 38
                      00:45:50.444137 IP 109.190.0.52.24513 > 91.121.164.227.53: UDP, length 38
                      00:45:50.446833 IP 109.190.0.52.51254 > 91.121.164.184.53: UDP, length 38
                      00:45:50.446850 IP 109.190.0.52.51254 > 91.121.164.227.53: UDP, length 38
                      00:45:50.447549 IP 109.190.0.52.55356 > 91.121.164.184.53: UDP, length 38
                      00:45:50.447559 IP 109.190.0.52.55356 > 91.121.164.227.53: UDP, length 38
                      00:45:50.453027 IP 109.190.0.52.61861 > 91.121.164.184.53: UDP, length 38
                      00:45:50.453037 IP 109.190.0.52.61861 > 91.121.164.227.53: UDP, length 38
                      00:45:50.459365 IP 109.190.0.52.24513 > 91.121.164.184.53: UDP, length 38
                      00:45:50.459374 IP 109.190.0.52.24513 > 91.121.164.227.53: UDP, length 38
                      00:45:50.461363 IP 109.190.0.52.24513 > 91.121.164.184.53: UDP, length 38
                      00:45:50.461373 IP 109.190.0.52.24513 > 91.121.164.227.53: UDP, length 38
                      00:45:50.462566 IP 109.190.0.52.24513 > 91.121.164.184.53: UDP, length 38
                      00:45:50.462574 IP 109.190.0.52.24513 > 91.121.164.227.53: UDP, length 38
                      00:45:50.467022 IP 109.190.0.52.62649 > 91.121.164.184.53: UDP, length 38
                      00:45:50.467032 IP 109.190.0.52.62649 > 91.121.164.227.53: UDP, length 38
                      00:45:50.469234 IP 91.121.164.227.53 > 109.190.0.52.62649: UDP, length 2768
                      00:45:50.469241 IP 91.121.164.227 > 109.190.0.52: udp
                      00:45:50.470326 IP 91.121.164.227 > 109.190.0.52: udp
                      00:45:50.471419 IP 91.121.164.227.53 > 109.190.0.52.61861: UDP, length 2768
                      00:45:50.471425 IP 91.121.164.227 > 109.190.0.52: udp
                      00:45:50.472513 IP 91.121.164.227 > 109.190.0.52: udp
                      00:45:50.474385 IP 91.121.164.227.53 > 109.190.0.52.45649: UDP, length 3961
                      00:45:50.474391 IP 91.121.164.227 > 109.190.0.52: udp
                      00:45:50.475378 IP 109.190.0.52.55736 > 91.121.164.184.53: UDP, length 38
                      00:45:50.475390 IP 109.190.0.52.55736 > 91.121.164.227.53: UDP, length 38
                      00:45:50.475875 IP 91.121.164.227 > 109.190.0.52: udp
                      00:45:50.475881 IP 91.121.164.227 > 109.190.0.52: udp
                      00:45:50.476499 IP 91.121.164.227 > 109.190.0.52: udp
                      00:45:50.477748 IP 91.121.164.227.53 > 109.190.0.52.24007: UDP, length 2768
                      00:45:50.477756 IP 91.121.164.227 > 109.190.0.52: udp
                      00:45:50.478841 IP 91.121.164.227 > 109.190.0.52: udp
                      00:45:50.479779 IP 91.121.164.227.53 > 109.190.0.52.25612: UDP, length 2768
                      00:45:50.479785 IP 91.121.164.227 > 109.190.0.52: udp
                      00:45:50.481027 IP 91.121.164.227 > 109.190.0.52: udp
                      00:45:50.482277 IP 91.121.164.227.53 > 109.190.0.52.55356: UDP, length 2768
                      00:45:50.482283 IP 91.121.164.227 > 109.190.0.52: udp
                      00:45:50.482606 IP 109.190.0.52.60126 > 91.121.164.184.53: UDP, length 38
                      00:45:50.482624 IP 109.190.0.52.60126 > 91.121.164.227.53: UDP, length 38
                      00:45:50.482780 IP 109.190.0.52.19191 > 91.121.164.184.53: UDP, length 38
                      00:45:50.482792 IP 109.190.0.52.19191 > 91.121.164.227.53: UDP, length 38
                      00:45:50.483023 IP 109.190.0.52.24513 > 91.121.164.184.53: UDP, length 38
                      00:45:50.483033 IP 109.190.0.52.24513 > 91.121.164.227.53: UDP, length 38
                      00:45:50.483206 IP 91.121.164.227 > 109.190.0.52: udp
                      00:45:50.485234 IP 91.121.164.227.53 > 109.190.0.52.49853: UDP, length 2768
                      00:45:50.485241 IP 91.121.164.227 > 109.190.0.52: udp
                      00:45:50.486171 IP 91.121.164.227 > 109.190.0.52: udp
                      00:45:50.486267 IP 109.190.0.52.49203 > 91.121.164.184.53: UDP, length 38
                      00:45:50.486284 IP 109.190.0.52.49203 > 91.121.164.227.53: UDP, length 38
                      00:45:50.487237 IP 91.121.164.227.53 > 109.190.0.52.24513: UDP, length 2768
                      00:45:50.487244 IP 91.121.164.227 > 109.190.0.52: udp
                      00:45:50.488330 IP 91.121.164.227 > 109.190.0.52: udp
                      00:45:50.489584 IP 91.121.164.227.53 > 109.190.0.52.55736: UDP, length 2768
                      00:45:50.489736 IP 91.121.164.227 > 109.190.0.52: udp
                      00:45:50.490829 IP 91.121.164.227 > 109.190.0.52: udp
                      00:45:50.492391 IP 91.121.164.227.53 > 109.190.0.52.24513: UDP, length 2768
                      00:45:50.492399 IP 91.121.164.227 > 109.190.0.52: udp
                      00:45:50.493639 IP 91.121.164.227 > 109.190.0.52: udp
                      00:45:50.495357 IP 91.121.164.227.53 > 109.190.0.52.24513: UDP, length 2768
                      00:45:50.495363 IP 91.121.164.227 > 109.190.0.52: udp
                      00:45:50.496449 IP 91.121.164.227 > 109.190.0.52: udp
                      00:45:50.497854 IP 91.121.164.227.53 > 109.190.0.52.61861: UDP, length 2768
                      00:45:50.497861 IP 91.121.164.227 > 109.190.0.52: udp
                      00:45:50.498947 IP 91.121.164.227 > 109.190.0.52: udp
                      00:45:50.499366 IP 109.190.0.52.42928 > 91.121.164.184.53: UDP, length 38
                      00:45:50.499384 IP 109.190.0.52.42928 > 91.121.164.227.53: UDP, length 38
                      00:45:50.500181 IP 91.121.164.227.53 > 109.190.0.52.19191: UDP, length 2768
                      00:45:50.500187 IP 91.121.164.227 > 109.190.0.52: udp
                      00:45:50.501117 IP 91.121.164.227 > 109.190.0.52: udp
                      00:45:50.502530 IP 109.190.0.52.50147 > 91.121.164.184.53: UDP, length 38
                      00:45:50.502547 IP 109.190.0.52.50147 > 91.121.164.227.53: UDP, length 38
                      00:45:50.502877 IP 91.121.164.227.53 > 109.190.0.52.62649: UDP, length 2768
                      00:45:50.502999 IP 109.190.0.52.42928 > 91.121.164.184.53: UDP, length 38
                      00:45:50.503009 IP 109.190.0.52.42928 > 91.121.164.227.53: UDP, length 38
                      00:45:50.503035 IP 91.121.164.227 > 109.190.0.52: udp
                      00:45:50.503094 IP 109.190.0.52.42928 > 91.121.164.184.53: UDP, length 38
                      00:45:50.503104 IP 109.190.0.52.42928 > 91.121.164.227.53: UDP, length 38
                      00:45:50.503900 IP 91.121.164.227 > 109.190.0.52: udp
                      00:45:50.505617 IP 91.121.164.227.53 > 109.190.0.52.13861: UDP, length 2768
                      00:45:50.505774 IP 91.121.164.227 > 109.190.0.52: udp
                      00:45:50.506867 IP 91.121.164.227 > 109.190.0.52: udp
                      00:45:50.507960 IP 91.121.164.227.53 > 109.190.0.52.24513: UDP, length 2768
                      00:45:50.507972 IP 91.121.164.227 > 109.190.0.52: udp
                      00:45:50.508834 IP 109.190.0.52.29227 > 91.121.164.184.53: UDP, length 38
                      00:45:50.508851 IP 109.190.0.52.29227 > 91.121.164.227.53: UDP, length 38
                      00:45:50.508936 IP 109.190.0.52.21616 > 91.121.164.184.53: UDP, length 38
                      00:45:50.508958 IP 109.190.0.52.21616 > 91.121.164.227.53: UDP, length 38
                      00:45:50.509054 IP 91.121.164.227 > 109.190.0.52: udp
                      00:45:50.510302 IP 91.121.164.227.53 > 109.190.0.52.51254: UDP, length 2768
                      00:45:50.510459 IP 91.121.164.227 > 109.190.0.52: udp
                      00:45:50.511551 IP 91.121.164.227 > 109.190.0.52: udp

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                      • C
                        cmb last edited by

                        Mostly DNS, open in Wireshark and see what the queries/responses actually are.

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                        • L
                          lespagnol last edited by

                          Dear cmb,
                          Something like that ? => http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/901020Wireshark.jpg

                          Does it make sense for you ?
                          Many thanks for your help.

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                          • C
                            cmb last edited by

                            Guessing the 109.190.0.52 is your IP from that example, at least judging by the fact the bandwidth is downstream. Something is doing ANY lookups on ripe.net and isc.org, which generate very large responses, at an absurd pace. Nothing on a stock pfSense install will generate any queries even remotely like that. Switch the capture to LAN and see if you see the requests there. In a default configuration, the only way any queries like that could possibly be initiated would be by something on an internal network.

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