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Looking for some pointers for designing my home router.

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    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
    last edited by Sep 17, 2012, 12:00 PM

    Is there any advantage to aggregating two ports on the Alix when it's maximum throughput is 85Mbps?
    It might actually be slower. Interesting to find out.

    Steve

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      trekkie
      last edited by Sep 17, 2012, 4:14 PM

      @stephenw10:

      Is there any advantage to aggregating two ports on the Alix when it's maximum throughput is 85Mbps?
      It might actually be slower. Interesting to find out.

      Steve

      'because I can?' :)  I was just thinking out loud.  Based on the 'google fiber is looking to expand' thing that is circulating I will probably go with an Atom box so I can have more bandwidth should it magically become available.

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        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
        last edited by Sep 17, 2012, 5:28 PM

        @trekkie:

        'because I can?' :)

        Good enough!  ;)

        Steve

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          cmb
          last edited by Sep 18, 2012, 1:42 AM

          @stephenw10:

          Is there any advantage to aggregating two ports on the Alix when it's maximum throughput is 85Mbps?
          It might actually be slower. Interesting to find out.

          The overhead of lagg would indeed leave you very slightly lower top end throughput. Only reason you would do that with an ALIX is redundancy.

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            akletke
            last edited by Oct 14, 2012, 2:25 AM

            @trekkie:

            'because I can?' :)   I was just thinking out loud.   Based on the 'google fiber is looking to expand' thing that is circulating I will probably go with an Atom box so I can have more bandwidth should it magically become available.

            I'm in the same boat… Except I WILL be getting Google Fiber within the next year. I'm one of the lucky ones that lives in KCMO and preregistered for the service.

            I currently run my build on an old 1ghz AMD Duron box with two gigabit cards in it. I'm looking at guy that's got a SuperMicro case for sale but it's got the P4 2.4ghz processor in it. Would you guys recommend that these specs would actually pass 1gig when I do get the fiber? Or would I need to upgrade the box in the near future?

            Supermicro Superserver 5013C-M 1U Chassis

            • Supermicro P4SCI Motherboard
            • P4 2.40 GHz Processor
            • 1GB DDR Ram
            • WD400BB-75DEA0 40 GB Hard Drive
            • Dual 10/100/1000 Network Ports
            • 2 Sata Ports
            • 4 USB 2.0 Ports
            • Floppy, CR-ROM
            • 260W Power Supply
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              Gabri.91
              last edited by Oct 14, 2012, 8:37 AM

              @Efonne:

              If you have a gigabit switch that supports VLANs, I think you could probably even get away with connecting a single gigabit port on the router computer to the switch and using VLANs for everything.

              If you want to share data between LAN and DMZ (or OPT) isn't the best way..

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                creatureofthedark
                last edited by Oct 14, 2012, 5:10 PM

                hey dude,

                Iv been looking at a smiler system my self… I found the bellow which would fit your criteria well!!

                The board has 2 Intel nics built in and the daughter board has another 3. you then also have a pci and a mini pcie free for what ever you like (my plan was ssd in the mini PCIe and a wifi card in the PCI slot)

                There are also cheaper versions of the same stuff just using broadcom or 100m/b nics instead on that site two.

                Hope this helps

                http://linitx.com/product/12576
                http://linitx.com/product/13104

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                  Efonnes
                  last edited by Oct 14, 2012, 10:00 PM

                  @Gabri.91:

                  @Efonne:

                  If you have a gigabit switch that supports VLANs, I think you could probably even get away with connecting a single gigabit port on the router computer to the switch and using VLANs for everything.

                  If you want to share data between LAN and DMZ (or OPT) isn't the best way..

                  If you want to do that on gigabit ethernet, you need a powerful system anyway.  An Intel Atom CPU, for example, may not have enough processing power for it to even make a difference.

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                    extide
                    last edited by Oct 22, 2012, 4:03 AM

                    @creatureofthedark:

                    hey dude,

                    Iv been looking at a smiler system my self… I found the bellow which would fit your criteria well!!

                    The board has 2 Intel nics built in and the daughter board has another 3. you then also have a pci and a mini pcie free for what ever you like (my plan was ssd in the mini PCIe and a wifi card in the PCI slot)

                    There are also cheaper versions of the same stuff just using broadcom or 100m/b nics instead on that site two.

                    Hope this helps

                    http://linitx.com/product/12576
                    http://linitx.com/product/13104

                    What SSD works in mini PCIe? I don't think I have ever seen that before.

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                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                      last edited by Oct 22, 2012, 11:01 AM Oct 22, 2012, 10:52 AM

                      Many early netbooks used a mini-pci-e card/slot for their SSD. However I believe they use a non-standard interface (or part of it) so don't assume they will work in any board.

                      Steve

                      Edit: In fact most use mSATA which looks the same but isn't! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_ATA#mSATA

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                        dreamslacker
                        last edited by Oct 22, 2012, 12:05 PM

                        @creatureofthedark:

                        hey dude,

                        Iv been looking at a smiler system my self… I found the bellow which would fit your criteria well!!

                        The board has 2 Intel nics built in and the daughter board has another 3. you then also have a pci and a mini pcie free for what ever you like (my plan was ssd in the mini PCIe and a wifi card in the PCI slot)

                        There are also cheaper versions of the same stuff just using broadcom or 100m/b nics instead on that site two.

                        Hope this helps

                        http://linitx.com/product/12576
                        http://linitx.com/product/13104

                        That motherboard does not have mSata on the mini-PCIe slot so you can forget about putting in a mSata (Mini-PCIe) SSD.

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                          matguy
                          last edited by Oct 22, 2012, 12:07 PM

                          @stephenw10:

                          Many early netbooks used a mini-pci-e card/slot for their SSD. However I believe they use a non-standard interface (or part of it) so don't assume they will work in any board.

                          Steve

                          Edit: In fact most use mSATA which looks the same but isn't! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_ATA#mSATA

                          Or the great PATA over Mini PCI-Express.  That's what my Dell Mini 9 has.  Ugh.

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                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                            last edited by Oct 22, 2012, 12:28 PM

                            Ah yes I knew the Dell mini was different but couldn't remember the details. The very early Asus netbooks had some proprietary connector I seem to remember.  ::)

                            Steve

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                              dreamslacker
                              last edited by Oct 22, 2012, 2:02 PM

                              @stephenw10:

                              Ah yes I knew the Dell mini was different but couldn't remember the details. The very early Asus netbooks had some proprietary connector I seem to remember.  ::)

                              Steve

                              The 700 series was PATA over mini PCI-e but with some proprietary protocols.  The later models used the standardized PATA over mini PCI-e like the Dell Minis.

                              Either way, it's now mSATA for almost everyone though Apple devices are a notable exception.

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                                extide
                                last edited by Oct 24, 2012, 5:43 PM

                                Yes, mSATA uses the exact same connector as mini PCIe, but it is wired totally different.

                                -Some motherboards allow you to change the function in the BIOS of a port, between mSATA and mini PCIe
                                -mSATA uses the SATA protocol :)

                                I have an mSATA drive in my laptop, they are pretty sweet and really tiny! It's amazing to have 256GB of data in something so small!

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