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    Would like to setup a Dual Boot with pfsense on a Lap top.

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    • AKEGECA Offline
      AKEGEC @johnpoz
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      @johnpoz said in Would like to setup a Dual Boot with pfsense on a Lap top.:
      I think your stuck in some old school mentality of dual booting..

      What's wrong with old school mentality?
      Yes I am an old school person. In our time we donโ€™t have thermal camera, we used our hand to feel the heat of broken component. We donโ€™t have 100% isopropyl alcohol, we used vodka for cleaning. But at lease in our time you have the right to repair of your own devices and the manufacturers even gave blueprint of your devices. Nowadays, consumers treated like an idiot and because they accepted that, they also revoked your right of owning and repairing. You donโ€™t own your device anymore, you get the feeling of owning them in reality you just renting them. What next, oxygen for rent? ๐Ÿ˜

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      • johnpozJ Online
        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
        last edited by johnpoz

        What the hell does the right to repair have to do with thinking this is late 90's early 2k an want to dual boot your shiny new copy of redhat 2.1 and windows XP your running.

        Mainstream virtualization has been around for about 20 years.. What Xen came out in 2003, MS released virtual PC same year..

        Dual booting is not how you best leverage the hardware you have.. It was ok when you were a windows guy and you wanted to play with linux.. Or a linux guy and wanted to check out what windows was.. All the kool kids were all triple booting hackintosh, linux and windows..

        Today you just run all three at the same time ;) On the same hardware.. And you can just have them all up using whatever which one you want to use at the same time.

        That has zero to do with you being able to self repair your $1k phone you carry around.

        While I get you - hey should be able to replace the battery in your phone, or hey the screen, etc. etc. But guess what - making that thing as small as possible, and also keeping the price so that people can actually afford them - makes it harder to "self" repair.. Shit they prob don't even repair them - and just throw them out when part X fails.

        You can't really do much on your new car either... Shit just changing the oil can be a real pain in the ass without the special tools.. And fuck they have to pull the engine to replace something you could of done back in the day in your garage with a buddy drinking beers in an hour or so..

        If you want to play around with rebuilding your carb - then sure you can do that on your "classic" but your not doing that sort of thing on your new tesla ;)

        Same goes with your new 1200$ new iphone ;) But sure you buy one of these and you can repair the shit out it ;)

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        Do you repair your 2k$ TV? Do you repair your 3k$ AVR? While I hear you - you should have the right to repair.. Problem is the tech is advancing to the point that if X fails you just replace X, not fix X.. And even if you wanted to repair it you would needf 100k worth of equipment to do so..

        But that really has zero to do with this OP not understanding virtualization at a basic level ;)

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          @johnpoz , You know right that mentality is different than technology. Old technology was expensive because they didn't have mass production in China like today.
          Old mentality is about social collective and respect. Noways is about me, myself and I (collective narcissism) and what worst no moral compass (know the difference between right and wrong). As a result the young generation is likely easy to be brainwashed and controlled ๐Ÿ ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ ๐Ÿ‘ (Patentscope WO/2020/060606). So good luck with that. .. oh btw when the time comes, no tin foil hat can save you this time. โœŒ

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          • stephenw10S Online
            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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            We are done here.

            pfSense is intended to be run stand alone on dedicated hardware. It's possible to make it dual boot but there is almost no good reason to do so so just don't!

            https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/microsoft-own-patent-666/

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