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      pglover19
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      Here are some photos of my make shift VGA connector based on some posts in this thread.

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        pglover19
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        The  WGXepc64 program does not work on the XTM 810. What option do I have to turn down the fans?

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        • stephenw10S
          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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          You may be able to set the target temperature or the minimum fan speed in the BIOS. The PSU fan is not controllable though obviously.
          It looks like there are some settings there: https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php?topic=61970.msg334448#msg334448

          Replace the fans with quieter ones is always an option.

          Steve

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            pglover19
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            @stephenw10:

            You may be able to set the target temperature or the minimum fan speed in the BIOS. The PSU fan is not controllable though obviously.
            It looks like there are some settings there: https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php?topic=61970.msg334448#msg334448

            Replace the fans with quieter ones is always an option.

            Steve

            I thought the BIOS was locked.

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            • stephenw10S
              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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              I might be, I don't have access to one of these boxes to check. It was on the XTM5.

              In which case swapping out the fans might be your best option. Or unlocking the BIOS yourself.  ;)

              I assume WGXepc reports it did't find a firebox?

              Steve

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                pglover19
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                @stephenw10:

                I might be, I don't have access to one of these boxes to check. It was on the XTM5.

                In which case swapping out the fans might be your best option. Or unlocking the BIOS yourself.  ;)

                I assume WGXepc reports it did't find a firebox?

                Steve

                Yes… That is the message I received..

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                  mppkll
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                  Stephenw10,

                  I'm getting "ELF interpreter /libexec/lad-elf.so.1 not found, error 8" when I try to run WGXepc. An I missing something?  This is a fresh install from a memstick image to a SDD running on the XTM 810.  Also how would one go about finding the hardware registers to add to WGXepc?  I have a copy of the BIOS and some documentation from lanner on the FW-8750 MB that the XTM 8 is based.

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                  • stephenw10S
                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                    last edited by

                    It's probably the 32bit version on a 64bit install (or vice versa).

                    As you say there's no code in there for the XTM8 (yet) anyway.

                    You can see how we found the registers for the XTM5 here (and in the previous few posts):
                    https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php?topic=43574.msg261279#msg261279

                    It wouldn't surprise me to find they are in the the exact same place on the XTM8.

                    Steve

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                      mppkll
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                      I've figured out a lot since last post,

                      1st the Super IO chip is a IT8718F and it is handleing the both the environmental control and gpio.

                      2nd I was able to extract the modules from the BIOS and found that some of the super IO devices are disabled (COM port 1 most importantly) so changing settings in an unlocked BIOS still wont help that.  Also some close inspection of the hardware, TTL to RS232 chips are missing from the MB so COM 1 is a write off.

                      3rd I got the datasheets from the Super IO chip and have figured out how to set the chip into MB PnP mode to read and change a fan control register (there are 5 fans controls and 3 temp registers).

                      4th I hope you don't mind, I am working on a new version of the WGXepc for the XTM 8 only (as the super IO is different), I'm focusing on fan control but I think LCD and LED may be possable, looking at the BIOS Super IO boot and register blocks it looks like parallel port and 3 GPIO pins are in use for the LCD/LED/Keypad board.  Of course I will post it as I go.

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                        pglover19
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                        @mppkll:

                        I've figured out a lot since last post,

                        1st the Super IO chip is a IT8718F and it is handleing the both the environmental control and gpio.

                        2nd I was able to extract the modules from the BIOS and found that some of the super IO devices are disabled (COM port 1 most importantly) so changing settings in an unlocked BIOS still wont help that.  Also some close inspection of the hardware, TTL to RS232 chips are missing from the MB so COM 1 is a write off.

                        3rd I got the datasheets from the Super IO chip and have figured out how to set the chip into MB PnP mode to read and change a fan control register (there are 5 fans controls and 3 temp registers).

                        4th I hope you don't mind, I am working on a new version of the WGXepc for the XTM 8 only (as the super IO is different), I'm focusing on fan control but I think LCD and LED may be possable, looking at the BIOS Super IO boot and register blocks it looks like parallel port and 3 GPIO pins are in use for the LCD/LED/Keypad board.  Of course I will post it as I go.

                        I am eagerly awaiting your results since I own a XTM 810 unit. I would love to be able to control the fans and the LCD/LED.

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                          fmertz
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                          @pglover19:

                          I would love to be able to control the LCD/LED.

                          You might want to give a try to the lcdproc package, and configure it to use the SDEC driver. This will hopefully let you control the LCD…

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                          • stephenw10S
                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                            last edited by

                            Yeah the LCD is still SDEC compatible that should work already.

                            Steve

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                              mppkll
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                              I wanted to give you guys an up date as to where I stand, there will be a significant pause ( couple months) in my work on this because of life stuff.

                              So far this is the status of things:

                              LCD Back-light / LCD:  Working: no changes where needed.

                              LED: not working yet:  I have the GPIO system up but need to put some time into tracing the PCB traces to/from the LED pins on the LCD jack and figure out what pin# controls them. I don't want to just turn on/off GP pins because most of them have a dual purposes, so I need to trace the hardware.  The IT8718F has a LED flashing system that may be usable to provide the flashing as well as just on/off depending on what GP Pin# the LEDs are on.  I will focus on this once the fans are all working.

                              FANS:  Partially working: I can read the speed from 4 of the 5 fans (3 processor fans-can read, 1 case fan-can read, 1 power supply fan-can't read) , but so far can only adjust 1 (case fan) of the 5.  I'm sure that I will get 4 of the 5 working totally as they are controlled by the IT8717F but the power supply fan will not be controllable.

                              TEMP: Working: I can read all of the temp and voltage registers.

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                                DaveinTN
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                                I'm trying to get WGXepc to work in an XTM 800 series, have you had a chance to update it yet?

                                Can't even hear my self think with these fans running so high.

                                Thanks,

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                                  mppkll
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                                  No, I have not had a chance to get back at this, I moved and my workshop/office is not yet painted and still in boxes.  I also had to put up another pfsense to run a VPN since the only ISP I could get was Comcast  >:(  In reality because of the things that I need to get done before snow flys on the new property I might not get back to this until winter.

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                                  • stephenw10S
                                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                    @daveinfla:

                                    Can't even hear my self think with these fans running so high.

                                    Yeah the fans are loud. Like excessively so!

                                    You think all the fans are addressable by the SIO chip?

                                    Steve

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                                      DaveinTN
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                                      I have access to other XTM models, actually probably older models too.

                                      Is there a list of models that are fully supported by WGXepc?

                                      Thanks,

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                                      • stephenw10S
                                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                        last edited by

                                        The X-Core, X-Peak, X-Core/Peak-e and XTM5. Though the XTM5 only has one of it's fans easily addressable.

                                        The SuperIO chip is completely different in the XTM8 as detailed here which makes it more challenging than simply copy/pasting with some new values unfortunately.

                                        Steve

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                                          DaveinTN
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                                          So if I want to be able to control the LCD and ALL of the internal fans I need to grab a X-Core, X-Peak, or X-Core/Peak-e model and not an XTM5 or 8 at this point?

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                                            meph
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                                            Anybody have a backup of the watchguard OS available? I bought this watchguard off ebay and it had pfsense installed… i would like to restore it. any help would be appreciated.

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