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    Ahci(4) needed for TRIM

    Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved 2.1 Snapshot Feedback and Problems - RETIRED
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    • w0wW
      w0w
      last edited by

      Thanks jimp!  :D

      Looks like using rc.conf.local is not really needed, because during update rc.conf is edited, not deleted, so my things added into rc.conf years ago are still working. But to be safe… yes it's not bad to use rc.conf.local instead

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      • w0wW
        w0w
        last edited by

        
        smartctl 6.1 2013-03-16 r3800 [FreeBSD 8.3-RELEASE-p8 i386] (local build)
        Copyright (C) 2002-13, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org
        
        /dev/: Unable to detect device type
        Please specify device type with the -d option.
        
        Use smartctl -h to get a usage summary
        
        

        I am getting this when trying to get S.M.A.R.T., after ahci enabled, any suggestions?

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        • C
          charliem
          last edited by

          @w0w:

          I am getting this when trying to get S.M.A.R.T., after ahci enabled, any suggestions?

          The device name changed with ahci, ie from ad4 to ada0 in my case, and the extra 'a' is not being picked up by the regexp in diag_smart.php

          This change to /usr/local/www/diag_smart.php will pick up the devices with the extra 'a', if it's there.

          
          --- diag_smart.php.orig 2013-06-27 22:25:23.000000000 -0400
          +++ diag_smart.php      2013-06-27 22:20:08.000000000 -0400
          @@ -277,7 +277,7 @@
                  default:
                  {
                          // Get all AD* and DA* (IDE and SCSI) devices currently installed and stores them in the $devs array
          -               exec("ls /dev | grep '^[ad][da][0-9]\{1,2\}$'", $devs);
          +               exec("ls /dev | grep '^[ad][da]a*[0-9]\{1,2\}$'", $devs);
                          ?>
          
          
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          • w0wW
            w0w
            last edited by

            Thank you charliem!
            Hmm, may be it should be submitted here - https://github.com/pfsense/pfsense/blob/master/usr/local/www/diag_smart.php ?

            Or somebody can do the patch that can be applied with "Patches" package. This one posted does not look compatible.
            I have patched manually but…

            Patch works via "System Patches" package. Sorry  ;)

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            • T
              Tikimotel
              last edited by

              Use with caution!
              I've cleaned up the "patch" a bit and added one extra for the dashboard widget!  ;D

              1st:
              Description : "AHCI SMART fix"

              
              --- diag_smart.php.orig 2013-06-27 22:25:23.000000000 -0400
              +++ diag_smart.php      2013-07-16 22:20:08.000000000 -0400
              @@ -280,1 +280,1 @@
              -               exec("ls /dev | grep '^[ad][da][0-9]\{1,2\}$'", $devs);
              +               exec("ls /dev | grep '^[ad][da]a*[0-9]\{1,2\}$'", $devs);
              
              

              Base Directory: "/usr/local/www/"
              (Please test first!!! Line numbers may change or the patch may not be needed in the future!!!)

              2nd (for dashboard widget)  ;)
              Description : "ACHI dashboard fix"

              
              --- smart_status.widget.php.orig 2013-07-16 22:25:23.000000000 -0400
              +++ smart_status.widget.php      2013-07-16 22:20:08.000000000 -0400
              @@ -45,1 +45,1 @@
              - exec("ls /dev | grep '^[ad][da][0-9]\{1,2\}$'", $devs); ## leant from orginal SMART status screen
              + exec("ls /dev | grep '^[ad][da]a*[0-9]\{1,2\}$'", $devs); ## leant from orginal SMART status screen
              
              

              Base Directory: "/usr/local/www/widgets/widgets/"
              (Please test first!!! Line numbers may change or the patch may not be needed in the future!!!)

              It works for me..

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              • K
                kejianshi
                last edited by

                I think this is great, but TRIM on a SSD is so common like dirt by now and required, that it should either be:

                1.  Something that is just automagically detected and applied (like it does for any other common device)

                or

                2.  Asked at initial install "would you like to enable TRIM on this device."

                Maybe next decade.

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                  Tikimotel
                  last edited by

                  AHCI is great! for TCQ & NCQ on normal HDD's not just for TRIM on SSD's.
                  "ada0: Command Queueing enabled"

                  And for SATA 6Gbs support.
                  ada0: 600.000MB/s transfers (SATA 3.x, UDMA5, PIO 8192bytes)

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                  • jimpJ
                    jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
                    last edited by

                    The AHCI module should be included in snapshots now (I just updated a VM and checked, it's there).

                    Also look at /usr/local/sbin/ufslabels.sh - that would eliminate the need to make any fstab edits.

                    Too late for 2.1 to grow an installer option for it, but perhaps for 2.2.

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                    • AhnHELA
                      AhnHEL
                      last edited by

                      Thanks Jimp, just started a fresh installation on my main pf box using a new SSD and tried out the latest snap.  Works perfectly.

                      Couldnt figure out how to run the ufslabels.sh file.  Getting a permission denied at a shell, so just edited fstab the old fashioned way.

                      AhnHEL (Angel)

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                      • jimpJ
                        jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
                        last edited by

                        It's just missing exec bits
                        chmod a+x ufslabels.sh; ./ufslabels.sh

                        Or:
                        sh ufslabels.sh

                        I pushed a fix to correct the exec bits, it'll turn up in shapshots eventually

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                        • AhnHELA
                          AhnHEL
                          last edited by

                          Does that printout look normal with the unexpected operator?  End result seems to be correct.

                          
                          [2.1-RC0][root@pfsense@pfsenseuser.net]/root(17): chmod a+x /usr/local/sbin/ufslabels.sh ; /usr/local/sbin/ufslabels.sh
                          FS: / on device ada0s1a with ufsid 51f5bc9c854a3254
                          FS: Swap on device ada0s1b
                          ====================
                          Current fstab:
                          # Device                Mountpoint      FStype  Options         Dump    Pass#
                          /dev/ada0s1a            /               ufs     rw              1       1
                          /dev/ada0s1b            none            swap    sw              0       0
                          ====================
                          New fstab:
                          # Device                Mountpoint      FStype  Options         Dump    Pass#
                          /dev/ufsid/51f5bc9c854a3254             /               ufs     rw             11
                          /dev/label/swap         none            swap    sw              0       0
                          [: =: unexpected operator
                          Commit changes? (y/n):
                          y
                          Disabling swap to apply label
                          Applying label to swap parition
                          Activating new fstab
                          Re-enabling swap[/code]
                          

                          AhnHEL (Angel)

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                          • jimpJ
                            jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
                            last edited by

                            That's not fatal (it was in code to auto-commit the changes if you passed in the right command line parameter), but it isn't relevant to using it interactively, so you can proceed from there.

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                            • w0wW
                              w0w
                              last edited by

                              Looks like SMART is also fixed
                              https://redmine.pfsense.org/projects/pfsense/repository/revisions/ccf479876283082b39ac9a37c1c6308f4857a6f0/diff

                              Thanks jimp!

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                                Tikimotel
                                last edited by

                                For completeness the smart dashboard widget needs the same fix.

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                                • w0wW
                                  w0w
                                  last edited by

                                  @Tikimotel:

                                  For completeness the smart dashboard widget needs the same fix.

                                  Exactly.

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                                  • jimpJ
                                    jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
                                    last edited by

                                    I just forgot about the widget entirely in the previous commit.

                                    Done now though:
                                    https://github.com/pfsense/pfsense/commit/0aa297594cd1882f32d52074ba3546c4f5f97c8e

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                                      gogol
                                      last edited by

                                      Thanks to your guides I think I have enabled TRIM on my SSD:

                                      /root(5): tunefs -p /
                                      tunefs: POSIX.1e ACLs: (-a)                                disabled
                                      tunefs: NFSv4 ACLs: (-N)                                   disabled
                                      tunefs: MAC multilabel: (-l)                               disabled
                                      tunefs: soft updates: (-n)                                 disabled
                                      tunefs: gjournal: (-J)                                     disabled
                                      tunefs: trim: (-t)                                         enabled
                                      tunefs: maximum blocks per file in a cylinder group: (-e)  2048
                                      tunefs: average file size: (-f)                            16384
                                      tunefs: average number of files in a directory: (-s)       64
                                      tunefs: minimum percentage of free space: (-m)             8%
                                      tunefs: optimization preference: (-o)                      time
                                      tunefs: volume label: (-L)                                 
                                      
                                      

                                      and from dmesg

                                      ada0 at ahcich0 bus 0 scbus0 target 0 lun 0
                                      ada0: <ts16gssd25s-s v1210=""> ATA-8 SATA 2.x device
                                      ada0: 300.000MB/s transfers (SATA 2.x, UDMA5, PIO 512bytes)
                                      ada0: Command Queueing enabled
                                      ada0: 15272MB (31277056 512 byte sectors: 16H 63S/T 16383C)
                                      lapic1: Forcing LINT1 to edge trigger
                                      SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched!
                                      Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ufsid/51fa1b22d7786f5c
                                      WARNING: /: TRIM flag on fs but disk does not support TRIM</ts16gssd25s-s>
                                      

                                      Why is there still that last line that my disk doesn't support it?

                                      I have this one:
                                      === START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
                                      Model Family:    JMicron based SSDs
                                      Device Model:    TS16GSSD25S-S
                                      Serial Number:    00246293003C
                                      Firmware Version: V1210

                                      According to data sheet it does support trim command.

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                                      • a-a-ronA
                                        a-a-ron
                                        last edited by

                                        It appears you have a similar drive to mine, these drives are older and do not support TRIM.

                                        Model Family:    JMicron based SSDs
                                        Device Model:    TS32GSSD25S-M

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                                          gogol
                                          last edited by

                                          That's weird because on this page:

                                          http://www.transcend-info.com/industry/products_details.asp?ModNo=3&Func1No=1

                                          Transcend says it does support it. Look at the Features tab and under Specifications SSD25S is named. I have the SLC and you have the MLC.

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                                          • a-a-ronA
                                            a-a-ron
                                            last edited by

                                            I'll be honest, its been years since i've read or done anything with this drive. Last I read (for mine) it didn't support TRIM, but had "Wear-leveling algorithm ensures reliable data transfer", which I had assumed was pre-TRIM. My drive has been happily sitting in my router doing its job. It wasn't until this thread that I started playing with it again.

                                            Mine also doesn't appear to have command queueing either.

                                            ada0 at ahcich0 bus 0 scbus0 target 0 lun 0
                                            ada0: <ts32gssd25s-m 100415=""> ATA-7 SATA 2.x device
                                            ada0: 300.000MB/s transfers (SATA 2.x, UDMA6, PIO 512bytes)
                                            ada0: 30560MB (62586880 512 byte sectors: 16H 63S/T 16383C)
                                            WARNING: /: TRIM flag on fs but disk does not support TRIM</ts32gssd25s-m>
                                            

                                            I wonder if there is a newer firmware that adds TRIM?

                                            EDIT:
                                            I don't see in the spec sheets where either drive supports TRIM.
                                            TS16GSSD25S-S
                                            http://www.csee.umbc.edu/~squire/images/ssd3.pdf
                                            http://c.master.lv/p/01/53/40/05/F611373.pdf

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