Ubiquiti edgerouter lite support?
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Just saw this today: http://rtfm.net/FreeBSD/ERL/
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I'd love to see a port for the edgerouter lite. This would be great!!
I have a couple of them running and once you get a handle on the CLI commands its not too difficult to setup. Though it is a bit of a learning curve and I would not recommend them to anyone that doesn't feel comfortable learning a new CLI setup system.
When they first came out and I first got one I was overly optimistic about the performance numbers and their marketing might be somewhat deceptive in this regard. There are a lot of features in EdgeOS that will disable the offload engine when they are enabled. Some of those things that I have discovered are: dual wan load balancing, bridging two interfaces, QoS traffic shaping, Flow accounting, all of which disable hardware offload.
Without the hardware offload it's still a nice little box but it's just not mind blowingly amazing anymore.While I really like the idea of an egderouter port (because I already have them) generally I would just like to see a port for some kind of small low power, fan-less router device in the $100 range that has reasonable performance for SOHO type small networks.
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While I really like the idea of an egderouter port (because I already have them) generally I would just like to see a port for some kind of small low power, fan-less router device in the $100 range that has reasonable performance for SOHO type small networks.
While it doesn't exactly meet your requirements - has a small fan - this device from newegg is close http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856205007. I've set one up and it has been running solid for a couple of weeks. Since I added a quieter 40mm fan, the total for the empty box ended up being about $140. With 2GB and a cheap 2.5" drive or SSD you can be out for around $200.
I also just ordered an aluminium celeron 1037u box from taobao (see https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php?topic=75262.msg411063#msg411063). I'm taking a little chance on that one… but it certainly looks like an nice little box - and it is fanless.
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Like you said the devices you linked don't really meet my requirements.
Another requirement that I did not mention is a minimum of 3 network ports. Otherwise I need to add in an inexpensive VLAN switch such as the Mikrotik RB260 and this just adds to the overall cost and complexity of the setup.
I am also not fond of these direct from china boxes and would prefer something from a better known company.
I generally recommend buying two boxes so that a spare is on site and ready to go (cold standby) because it's almost impossible to buy stuff locally anymore. So your solution would be about $500 (with two of the boxes you linked and two managed switched) + $$ for labor at which point my cheap clients start complaining. $200 + labor for the edgerouter solution would be a much easier sell.Anyway I do NOT want to turn this thread into a discussion on alternatives to the edgerouter. That's what new threads are for.
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@SunCatalyst:
Hope you can still work on this a bit at a time as 2.2 seems a ways off for sure….
2.2 gets closer every day.
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It sounds interesting to try pfSense on an EdgeRouter.
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Could you tell a little bit more what you know about the hardware crypto support? I installed FreeBSD on mine and /dev/crypto seems to speed up AES by 2x. Is there more hardware on there that needs support? Or only more proprietary/FPGA stuff or something?
If you (or somebody else) still got FReeBSD running on this device I would like to know some real life experience when using AES-256-CBC for OpenVPN tunnel. I'm stuck at about 7 Mbit/s with stock firmware. A UBNT staff makes the, in my opinion uneducated guess, OpenVPN itself is to blame for poor performance: http://community.ubnt.com/t5/EdgeMAX/OpenVPN-site-to-site-speed-limit-10-Mbit/m-p/925934#M36502
Crypto offloading seems on their ToDo list since the release of the product.
So I am curious what speed you get using the crypto h/w running FreeBSD.
Of course I would like to see pfSense as well for this router but I am waiting patiently. -
any news after the release of the 2.2 version of pfSense?
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Knew this was coming, one work day after the release.
Not even mad. (But not answering.). :-X
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I'm from the other side of the globe, but IIRC that's part of the "Miranda warning", no?
"everything you say can and will be used against you…"it's always positive there are certainties in life ;D
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I'm from the other side of the globe, but IIRC that's part of the "Miranda warning", no?
"everything you say can and will be used against you…"it's always positive there are certainties in life ;D
Technically, that part of the Miranda warning is: "anything the suspect does say can and may be used against them;" Of course, immediately preceding same is, "you have the right to remain silent".
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I was being good and didn't ask but it sure would be sweet to be able to use the little Ubiquity box without suffering the brain cramps the command line stuff gives me.
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it would make a more affordable replacement for people who something more than standard box store option i know of several home already
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By the way you mentioned getting pfsense running on the Lite version … is the Pro 8 port version that much different in architecture ? its also a MIPS processor ...
cmon, trying to save 500$ and still get an 8 port home pfsense router lol
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The CPUs are somewhat different.
http://pastebin.com/index/ZQuLL6y8
I can't find any support for Octeon II in FreeBSD. Might not be too difficult to add, but … meh.
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Yea .. looks like only the Lite has been tested with FreeBSD. https://wiki.freebsd.org/FreeBSD/mips/Octeon
But if you look at this file: http://web.mit.edu/freebsd/head/sys/mips/conf/OCTEON1
It does say "Support for Ubiquity Boards" Boards as in plural … I wonder what they mean by that...
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okay looking at ubiquity firmware packages, they offer 2 FW files:
E100 for the 3 port and POE 5 port models.
E200 for the 8 port models.
If they have to offer different packages, that probably means they are not compatible with each other …
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Has anyone tried to build their own FreeBSD source using pfSense for the Edgemax using the guide posted here (http://rtfm.net/FreeBSD/ERL/#build)?
I have a feeling there will be a lot of bricked routers in the future ;)
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I have a feeling there will be a lot of bricked routers in the future ;)
The nice thing about the ERL, is that the os is stored on a USB drive. The smart thing would be to use a different usb stick if you wanted to play. When your done, pop the original stick in and boot up the OEM software.
From what I have read, the ERL will only process ~300mb/s if you are doing software routing. If you turn on the HW assist, that is where they get the speed. Maybe I am wrong, but I don't see pfSense being able to take advantage of the HW assist without a lot of work. I may be wrong. Without a sponsor, I don't see a bushiness case for supporting this hardware under the Ubiquity label. All a port does is make Ubiquity more money.
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well, i guess the only real use for those ERL routers is if you don't have a gigabit interface for WAN… honestly, i would not use those for a business ... i would just buy an APU or a C2778 or a Lanner.... UNLESS ... you are dealing with one of those customers who says "OMG TOO MUCH MONEY TOO MUCH MONEY ... 500 dolla for 50 port switch ? TOO MUCH MONEY TOO MUCH MONEY, BRING PRICE DOWN BRING PRICE DOWN" and thats when i start installing shit hardware at their business and not give a shit :)
I actually heard a story where this guy who constantly works with cheap ass customers installed 3x 16 port bottom of the barrel switches instead of buying a good cisco SG200 50 port because the customer said cisco small business was too much money lol Those are the guys who drive around in their Mercedes and cheap out hard on IT ,and then their IT breaks down and they blame the IT guys hahahaha
