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      gst.freitas
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      any news after the release of the 2.2 version of pfSense?

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        Guest
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        Knew this was coming, one work day after the release.

        Not even mad.  (But not answering.).  :-X

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          bennyc
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          I'm from the other side of the globe, but IIRC that's part of the "Miranda warning", no?
          "everything you say can and will be used against you…"

          it's always positive there are certainties in life  ;D

          4x XG-7100 (2xHA), 1x SG-4860, 1x SG-2100
          1x PC Engines APU2C4, 1x PC Engines APU1C4

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            Guest
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            @bennyc:

            I'm from the other side of the globe, but IIRC that's part of the "Miranda warning", no?
            "everything you say can and will be used against you…"

            it's always positive there are certainties in life  ;D

            Technically, that part of the Miranda warning is: "anything the suspect does say can and may be used against them;"  Of course, immediately preceding same is, "you have the right to remain silent".

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            • stan-qazS
              stan-qaz
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              I was being good and didn't ask but it sure would be sweet to be able to use the little Ubiquity box without suffering the brain cramps the command line stuff gives me.

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                grandrivers
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                it would make a more affordable replacement for people who something more than standard box store option i know of several home already

                pfsense plus 25.03 super micro A1SRM-2558F
                C2558 32gig ECC  60gig SSD

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                  reqlez
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                  By the way you mentioned getting pfsense running on the Lite version … is the Pro 8 port version that much different in architecture ? its also a MIPS processor ...

                  cmon, trying to save 500$ and still get an 8 port home pfsense router lol

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                    Guest
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                    The CPUs are somewhat different.

                    http://pastebin.com/index/ZQuLL6y8

                    I can't find any support for Octeon II in FreeBSD.  Might not be too difficult to add, but … meh.

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                      reqlez
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                      Yea .. looks like only the Lite has been tested with FreeBSD. https://wiki.freebsd.org/FreeBSD/mips/Octeon

                      But if you look at this file: http://web.mit.edu/freebsd/head/sys/mips/conf/OCTEON1

                      It does say "Support for Ubiquity Boards"  Boards as in plural … I wonder what they mean by that...

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                        reqlez
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                        okay looking at ubiquity firmware packages, they offer 2 FW files:

                        E100 for the 3 port and POE 5 port models.

                        E200 for the 8 port models.

                        If they have to offer  different packages, that probably means they are not compatible with each other …

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                          iamkinghenry
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                          Has anyone tried to build their own FreeBSD source using pfSense for the Edgemax using the guide posted here (http://rtfm.net/FreeBSD/ERL/#build)?

                          I have a feeling there will be a lot of bricked routers in the future ;)

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                            switchman
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                            @iamkinghenry:

                            I have a feeling there will be a lot of bricked routers in the future ;)

                            The nice thing about the ERL, is that the os is stored on a USB drive.  The smart thing would be to use a different usb stick if you wanted to play.  When your done, pop the original stick in and boot up the OEM software.

                            From what I have read, the ERL will only process ~300mb/s if you are doing software routing. If you turn on the HW assist, that is where they get the speed.  Maybe I am wrong, but I don't see pfSense being able to take advantage of the HW assist without a lot of work.  I may be wrong.  Without a sponsor, I don't see a bushiness case for supporting this hardware under the Ubiquity label.  All a port does is make Ubiquity more money.

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                              reqlez
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                              well, i guess the only real use for those ERL routers is if you don't have a gigabit interface for WAN… honestly, i would not use those for a business ... i would just buy an APU or a C2778 or a Lanner.... UNLESS ... you are dealing with one of those customers who says "OMG TOO MUCH MONEY TOO MUCH MONEY ... 500 dolla for 50 port switch ? TOO MUCH MONEY TOO MUCH MONEY, BRING PRICE DOWN BRING PRICE DOWN"  and thats when i start installing shit hardware at their business and not give a shit :)

                              I actually heard a story where this guy who constantly works with cheap ass customers installed 3x 16 port bottom of the barrel switches instead of buying a good cisco SG200 50 port because the customer said cisco small business was too much money lol    Those are the guys who drive around in their Mercedes and cheap out hard on IT ,and then their IT breaks down and they blame the IT guys hahahaha

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                              • stan-qazS
                                stan-qaz
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                                pfSense on the ERL would be a nice thing, make life easier on someone like me with limited networking skills. I feel like the command line on the ERL is too much like regex, if you don't use it daily and keep good notes it is write-only. The GUI is too limiting but getting better.

                                I'd love to see a pfSense device similar to the VK-T40E  http://store.pfsense.org/VK-T40E/ but closer to the $100-200 price point, much lower performance would be fine.

                                I just can't justify $450 when a re-purposed old computer and a few bits from the parts bin do the job.

                                The ERL was bought to see if the size, noise and power savings were worth the missing features and much harder configuration, they weren't. so I'm back on my pfSense HP-7900 and the ERL is going to be set up as a limited capability backup for the pfSense system.

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                                  reqlez
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                                  No i agree the light is a great platform for people who has some light use requirements at home and want to run pfsense at home without spending a ton, its like an upgrade over getting a cheap router and loading DD-WRT on it.

                                  I just recently ordered a Ubiquity 8 port Pro model just so that i can set it up in my lab, and i will likely use it in my lab network that requires 1GBPS routing between VLANS. I just can't justify spending over 1K on a C2778 system with 8 NIC ports for a lab network, but 485$ CAD delivered with taxes i can justify it.

                                  If pfsense support ever comes to the 8 port Ubiquity models, great … I'll upgrade it to pfsense, if not ... not a big deal, for business clients, i will still recommend them the C2778 model from Netgate when possible or the APU model. ( i like C2778 because i can install vmware on it and run pfsense and a domain controller on a remote site in same box ).

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                                    Guest
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                                    When Bhyve boots windows, you won't need VMware.

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                                      kb1ujs
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                                      I'm also very interested in getting pfSense running on the ERL.  We have an ERL that provides our gateway to our local university.  Our school, as well as most of the other schools in Maine, get their Internet access this way through ERLs or their big brother.

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                                        xer0
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                                        Ill be the next one to ask.

                                        Any news? :D

                                        Thanks!

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                                          Guest
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                                          pfSense on the ERL would be a nice thing, make life easier on someone like me with limited networking skills.

                                          Cheaper ok, but not easier for you. Easy is to get a device where you will be 100% knowing
                                          that pfSense is compatible and  without any fiddling to do for you, am I right with this?

                                          I'd love to see a pfSense device similar to the VK-T40E  http://store.pfsense.org/VK-T40E/ but closer to the $100-200 price point, much lower performance would be fine.

                                          You can have it as a bundle here in Germany for ~220 € but in the USA, you need
                                          to count on top the following;

                                          • tax
                                          • transportation fee
                                            and then I think you will nearly comes to 300 €
                                            so that 150 € now is the difference!
                                          • 12 month support (10 € for each month) is cheap in my eyes
                                          • 30 € for a person who is installing and tuning the pfSense system that it is matching the hardware

                                          I just can't justify $450 when a re-purposed old computer and a few bits from the parts bin do the job.

                                          But there you wont to be have the same hassle like it comes by side with a single board computer
                                          installation of the pfSense and tuning on top also comes, like TRIM for a mSATA and so on,….....

                                          The pfSense book at Amazon.de would be the cost of ~40 €
                                          Read the book is the cost of time and understand all things then a total another thing
                                          Installing the pfsense then and tune it that it is matching right the hardware will take also time
                                          So as I see it right the $150 more or on top is a good deal for somebody who is not a counting
                                          to the top 1337 pfsense guys.

                                          I was taking my ERL light and installs a radius Server on it, for my personal WLAN and I am using
                                          the CP from the pfSense only for the WLAN guests, would this be also a hint for you?
                                          Here is the tutorial

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                                          • stan-qazS
                                            stan-qaz
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                                            Frank, Getting something similar to what I get from the edge router in power use and capability is going to cost more than I'm willing to pay. Only the ease of use is lacking and then only if you really need something beyond the basics. They even worked off the bugs that were frustrating me after I posted about them and joined their beta program. Nice folks but their gear is really more suitable for experts that use it daily or for folks with very limited needs beyond the basic point and click options they offer.

                                            I use a refurbished small HP for my pfSense box here and it meets all my needs aside from power use. For the power savings to pay off a $500 plus replacement assumes I'm going to live longer than I expect to and that it would never need replaced because it became obsolete.  http://store.pfsense.org/appliances/

                                            On the other hand I got an Edge Router Lite for $99 hoping it would be good enough for a project I was involved in, it wasn't and the project died of lack of interest. I still have it and it is good enough to serve as a backup if my pfSense box dies for some reason or I make a mess of it fooling with things. It is also a lot more flexible and user friendly than the ancient Linksys router that was my previous backup.

                                            Still I think the pfSense folks should look into a low end system that would run pfSense, maybe without all the fancy crypto and such. Just something good enough for a serious home user or small office with limited needs. Hand a consultant a $99 box that just works and he can use to shave $400 off his low-ball bid and you'll get a big grin.

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