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    Difference between Interface subnet and 192.168.2.0/24

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      phil.davis
      last edited by

      Look in /tmp/rules.debug - down the end you will see the user rules generated from the Firewall Rules tabs. You will be able to see exactly what rules it generates for OPT3. I suspect it gets a different idea about OPT3 Subnet depending if it is set to topology or not. One way may treat it as a /30 and the other as the full tunnel network range.

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      • panzP
        panz
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        Oh, yes, I understand that. But my question was: why does OPT subnet and 192.168.2.0/24 was not the same?

        I understand this IF topology is net30, so is a peer-to-peer like connection.

        But the previous scheme was ALL /24. Why this doesn't work?

        pfSense 2.3.2-RELEASE-p1 (amd64)
        motherboard: MSI C847MS-E33 Micro ATX (with Intel Celeron CPU 847 @ 1.10 GHz) ~ PSU: Corsair VS350 ~ RAM: Kingston KVR1333D3E9S 4096 MB 240-pin DIMM DDR3 SDRAM 1.5 volt ~ NIC: Intel EXPI9301CTBLK (LAN) ~ NIC: D-Link DFE-528TX (CAM) ~ Hard Disk: Western Digital WD10JFCX Red ~ Case: Cooler Master HAF XB ~ power consumption: 21 Watts.

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          doktornotor Banned
          last edited by

          @panz:

          Oh, yes, I understand that. But my question was: why does OPT subnet and 192.168.2.0/24 was not the same?

          Please, type ifconfig to console. For both modes. Compare the OPT3/ovpns? output.

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          • panzP
            panz
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            @kejianshi:

            OK - So, your pfsense is a client to a vpn service and then your pfsense is also running an openvpn server to which your laptop/computer is a client while inside your own LAN?  Do I have this wrong?

            laptop/computer is a client while I'm out (for eg. at a Strabucks coffee).

            pfSense 2.3.2-RELEASE-p1 (amd64)
            motherboard: MSI C847MS-E33 Micro ATX (with Intel Celeron CPU 847 @ 1.10 GHz) ~ PSU: Corsair VS350 ~ RAM: Kingston KVR1333D3E9S 4096 MB 240-pin DIMM DDR3 SDRAM 1.5 volt ~ NIC: Intel EXPI9301CTBLK (LAN) ~ NIC: D-Link DFE-528TX (CAM) ~ Hard Disk: Western Digital WD10JFCX Red ~ Case: Cooler Master HAF XB ~ power consumption: 21 Watts.

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              kejianshi
              last edited by

              OK - I see.

              When you VPN into your pfsense from your laptop when you are out does all that traffic then go out over the VPN pfsense is client too?

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              • panzP
                panz
                last edited by

                @kejianshi:

                OK - I see.

                When you VPN into your pfsense from your laptop when you are out does all that traffic then go out over the VPN pfsense is client too?

                Yes.

                pfSense 2.3.2-RELEASE-p1 (amd64)
                motherboard: MSI C847MS-E33 Micro ATX (with Intel Celeron CPU 847 @ 1.10 GHz) ~ PSU: Corsair VS350 ~ RAM: Kingston KVR1333D3E9S 4096 MB 240-pin DIMM DDR3 SDRAM 1.5 volt ~ NIC: Intel EXPI9301CTBLK (LAN) ~ NIC: D-Link DFE-528TX (CAM) ~ Hard Disk: Western Digital WD10JFCX Red ~ Case: Cooler Master HAF XB ~ power consumption: 21 Watts.

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                  kejianshi
                  last edited by

                  haha - I see where this is going…  Good one.

                  I take it AirVPN doesn't have a bandwidth usage cap?

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                  • panzP
                    panz
                    last edited by

                    @doktornotor:

                    @panz:

                    Oh, yes, I understand that. But my question was: why does OPT subnet and 192.168.2.0/24 was not the same?

                    Please, type ifconfig to console. For both modes. Compare the OPT3/ovpns? output.

                    with net30

                    ovpns2: flags=8051 <up,pointopoint,running,multicast>metric 0 mtu 1500
                    options=80000 <linkstate>inet6 fe80::a00:27ff:fe7f:875d%ovpns2 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x8
                    inet 192.168.2.1 –> 192.168.2.1 netmask 0xffffff00

                    without inet30

                    ovpns2: flags=8051 <up,pointopoint,running,multicast>metric 0 mtu 1500
                    options=80000 <linkstate>inet6 fe80::a00:27ff:fe7f:875d%ovpns2 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x8
                    inet 192.168.2.1 --> 192.168.2.2 netmask 0xffffffff
                    nd6 options=3 <performnud,accept_rtadv>Opened by PID 15822</performnud,accept_rtadv></linkstate></up,pointopoint,running,multicast></linkstate></up,pointopoint,running,multicast>

                    pfSense 2.3.2-RELEASE-p1 (amd64)
                    motherboard: MSI C847MS-E33 Micro ATX (with Intel Celeron CPU 847 @ 1.10 GHz) ~ PSU: Corsair VS350 ~ RAM: Kingston KVR1333D3E9S 4096 MB 240-pin DIMM DDR3 SDRAM 1.5 volt ~ NIC: Intel EXPI9301CTBLK (LAN) ~ NIC: D-Link DFE-528TX (CAM) ~ Hard Disk: Western Digital WD10JFCX Red ~ Case: Cooler Master HAF XB ~ power consumption: 21 Watts.

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                    • panzP
                      panz
                      last edited by

                      @kejianshi:

                      haha - I see where this is going…  Good one.

                      I take it AirVPN doesn't have a bandwidth usage cap?

                      no limitations as I know

                      pfSense 2.3.2-RELEASE-p1 (amd64)
                      motherboard: MSI C847MS-E33 Micro ATX (with Intel Celeron CPU 847 @ 1.10 GHz) ~ PSU: Corsair VS350 ~ RAM: Kingston KVR1333D3E9S 4096 MB 240-pin DIMM DDR3 SDRAM 1.5 volt ~ NIC: Intel EXPI9301CTBLK (LAN) ~ NIC: D-Link DFE-528TX (CAM) ~ Hard Disk: Western Digital WD10JFCX Red ~ Case: Cooler Master HAF XB ~ power consumption: 21 Watts.

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                        doktornotor Banned
                        last edited by

                        Yeah. So, see:

                        netmask 0xffffffff = /32 (really just the OVPN IP itself, does not include any client, 192.168.2.6 certainly out)
                        netmask 0xffffff00 = /24 (the configured subnet)

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                        • panzP
                          panz
                          last edited by

                          @doktornotor:

                          Yeah. So, see:

                          netmask 0xffffffff = /32 (really just the OVPN IP itself, does not include any client, 192.168.2.6 certainly out)
                          netmask 0xffffff00 = /24 (the configured subnet)

                          why  inet 192.168.2.1 –> 192.168.2.1

                          pfSense 2.3.2-RELEASE-p1 (amd64)
                          motherboard: MSI C847MS-E33 Micro ATX (with Intel Celeron CPU 847 @ 1.10 GHz) ~ PSU: Corsair VS350 ~ RAM: Kingston KVR1333D3E9S 4096 MB 240-pin DIMM DDR3 SDRAM 1.5 volt ~ NIC: Intel EXPI9301CTBLK (LAN) ~ NIC: D-Link DFE-528TX (CAM) ~ Hard Disk: Western Digital WD10JFCX Red ~ Case: Cooler Master HAF XB ~ power consumption: 21 Watts.

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                            doktornotor Banned
                            last edited by

                            @panz:

                            why  inet 192.168.2.1 –> 192.168.2.1

                            What's your problem with that, again? The question has been answered already. The tunnel endpoints are the same there.

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                              kejianshi
                              last edited by

                              So, anyway - I've not been running pfsense this way before.  I've only done this with a DD-WRT as client to Pfsense/Openvpn and then DD-WRT has its clients…  Similar.

                              No one has said yet, but I'm guessing the OPT3 got created auto-magically when you created the OpenVPN client in pfsense?  If so, I'm clear now.

                              How well is this working for you?

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                              • panzP
                                panz
                                last edited by

                                @kejianshi:

                                So, anyway - I've not been running pfsense this way before.  I've only done this with a DD-WRT as client to Pfsense/Openvpn and then DD-WRT has its clients…  Similar.

                                No one has said yet, but I'm guessing the OPT3 got created auto-magically when you created the OpenVPN client in pfsense?  If so, I'm clear now.

                                How well is this working for you?

                                Absolutely not, I created the OPT3 to add a roadwarrior after all VPN testing from LAN –> to AirVPN were successful.

                                pfSense 2.3.2-RELEASE-p1 (amd64)
                                motherboard: MSI C847MS-E33 Micro ATX (with Intel Celeron CPU 847 @ 1.10 GHz) ~ PSU: Corsair VS350 ~ RAM: Kingston KVR1333D3E9S 4096 MB 240-pin DIMM DDR3 SDRAM 1.5 volt ~ NIC: Intel EXPI9301CTBLK (LAN) ~ NIC: D-Link DFE-528TX (CAM) ~ Hard Disk: Western Digital WD10JFCX Red ~ Case: Cooler Master HAF XB ~ power consumption: 21 Watts.

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                                  kejianshi
                                  last edited by

                                  Yeah - See thats the part I don't understand why you need it.  But if its working for you, I guess I don't need to understand necessarily.
                                  I have road warriors and I didn't have to create an interface for them - Thats why I'm confused.

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                                  • panzP
                                    panz
                                    last edited by

                                    @kejianshi:

                                    Yeah - See thats the part I don't understand why you need it.  But if its working for you, I guess I don't need to understand necessarily.

                                    I need it because the VPN provider is one (= 1 account), but I have to protect at the same time my internal LAN clients AND roadwarrior client(s) under the same umbrella (LAN = home office; roadwarrior = mobile office).

                                    pfSense 2.3.2-RELEASE-p1 (amd64)
                                    motherboard: MSI C847MS-E33 Micro ATX (with Intel Celeron CPU 847 @ 1.10 GHz) ~ PSU: Corsair VS350 ~ RAM: Kingston KVR1333D3E9S 4096 MB 240-pin DIMM DDR3 SDRAM 1.5 volt ~ NIC: Intel EXPI9301CTBLK (LAN) ~ NIC: D-Link DFE-528TX (CAM) ~ Hard Disk: Western Digital WD10JFCX Red ~ Case: Cooler Master HAF XB ~ power consumption: 21 Watts.

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                                    • panzP
                                      panz
                                      last edited by

                                      Thank you doktornotor, now I understand (yeah!)  8)

                                      pfSense 2.3.2-RELEASE-p1 (amd64)
                                      motherboard: MSI C847MS-E33 Micro ATX (with Intel Celeron CPU 847 @ 1.10 GHz) ~ PSU: Corsair VS350 ~ RAM: Kingston KVR1333D3E9S 4096 MB 240-pin DIMM DDR3 SDRAM 1.5 volt ~ NIC: Intel EXPI9301CTBLK (LAN) ~ NIC: D-Link DFE-528TX (CAM) ~ Hard Disk: Western Digital WD10JFCX Red ~ Case: Cooler Master HAF XB ~ power consumption: 21 Watts.

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                                        kejianshi
                                        last edited by

                                        OK - If it works it works.

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                                        • panzP
                                          panz
                                          last edited by

                                          @kejianshi:

                                          OK - If it works it works.

                                          If you're interested, now I'm going to add a Wi-Fi interface!  ;D  ;D  ;D with OpenVPN peers, of course!

                                          pfSense 2.3.2-RELEASE-p1 (amd64)
                                          motherboard: MSI C847MS-E33 Micro ATX (with Intel Celeron CPU 847 @ 1.10 GHz) ~ PSU: Corsair VS350 ~ RAM: Kingston KVR1333D3E9S 4096 MB 240-pin DIMM DDR3 SDRAM 1.5 volt ~ NIC: Intel EXPI9301CTBLK (LAN) ~ NIC: D-Link DFE-528TX (CAM) ~ Hard Disk: Western Digital WD10JFCX Red ~ Case: Cooler Master HAF XB ~ power consumption: 21 Watts.

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                                            kejianshi
                                            last edited by

                                            Its not the adding of physical interfaces that confuses me.

                                            Or the fact that you can have VPN clients to a pfsense that is running as a client to a VPN its self.

                                            Or that you can add a wireless interface + its clients to pfsense which is client to a VPN.

                                            The thing that confuses me is that I've always been able to firewall my pfsense road warriors just fine from the Openvpn firewall tab without the addition of an interface for their subnet.

                                            So, what I'm wondering is was that interface necessary at all?

                                            I'm probably just missing something.  Its OK.

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