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  • Hi,
    I currently have pfsense running on vbox bridged to a dual mini pcie nic. I have an adsl modem directly plugged into one nic, and the lan into the other. Can I make all this work through the single onboard nic with vlans? I don't mind the performance hit as my adsl connection is only 6Mb/s down. I am confused as I don't know if the adsl modem (bridged pppoe) will work through a vlan setup.

    Is this possible? If so would the following switches work for setting up the vlan?
    GS105E
    GS108T-200

    Your help is much appreciated. Big fan of pfsense.

    Thanks,

    Shailen.


  • Netgate Administrator

    It should work like that. The GS108T is a better switch. The GS105E requires a windows only utility to configure it, maybe not a problem for you.

    Steve



  • Am I correct in assuming that "bridged pppoe" means that you get an external IP provided by DHCP on the modem - i.e., there's no dial-up required in pfSense?
    (Though I can't imagine any reason why even the latter should not work)

    No sure why you'd want to go from a two (or three?) port setup to only one, but this will work; in fact it'd be my own setup.
    I use the GS105E in a one-NIC setup on an HP thin client. Came across the term one-armed router for that and somehow like it.  ;)

    I was able to update firmware and configure the switch with the utility provided by Netgear from a virtual machine.
    Slightly finicky to connect to with the Netgear tool (abide by the instructions and make sure you're on same subnet), but no major headaches after all, in what was the very first VLAN setup for me.

    I chose the GS105 over the GS108 as it was a few bucks less. And I opted for what should be slightly lower power consumption and physical footprint - even though it might sound a bit silly. I really don't need the additional ports.



  • Hi,
    The modem is in bridged mode and in pfsense I use pppoe to make the connection to the wan. I'd like to go from a 2 nic setup to a 1 nic setup because I want to move pfsense to an intel nuc. I can of course install the mini pcie nic in the nuc, but then I have to build a custom case for it. But while I'm on a slow adsl connection, I'm inclined to go with a cheap vlan smart switch for the moment.

    Thanks,

    Shailen.



  • @stephenw10:

    It should work like that. The GS108T is a better switch. The GS105E requires a windows only utility to configure it, maybe not a problem for you.

    Steve

    GS108T are great switches, particularly when paired with a GS110-TP on the uplinks.  I run 3 108s in my house and they're all powered by the 110 in my office.



  • @shailen:

    I'd like to go from a 2 nic setup to a 1 nic setup because I want to move pfsense to an intel nuc

    May I ask why you'd like to move to a NUC of all devices?

    I can totally see their appeal and appreciate their use as a small desktop.
    But I don't think they make for a good router platform.
    They are neither affordable, power-saving or fanless enough to warrant their use as a home/soho router.
    Nor are they flexible/scalable enough to be used in bigger deployments.
    And the Intel NiCs being single-configuration across the lineup prevent them from being saving grace on these.



  • Hi,
    I bought the haswell nuc. It only draws 9W from the mains with 8GB RAM, a dual jetway mini pcie intel i350 nic and an SSD. For comparison, my mini itx system based on mobile sandy bridge draws 17W at ideal and that based on mobile core2duo draws 24W. So the power consumption is similar to the WRT54G router it is replacing. This combined with a fanless case, make it a good home router solution. I admit it is less affordable, but I really do not like the atom cpus.

    Shailen.



  • @shailen:

    a dual jetway mini pcie intel i350 nic

    Oh… sounds great with the additional NICs.
    May I ask what case you got to fit the NUC board with the Jetway card?

    @shailen:

    I admit it is less affordable, but I really do not like the atom cpus.

    I don't like the previous Atoms either.
    But the newest generation Bay Trail ones with AES-NI support (Atom E38xx / C2xxx) look pretty nifty for network appliances.