Intel atom C2350



  • Hi everybody,

    I would like your opinion about new intel atom C2350, this barebone http://www.nexcom.com/Products/network-and-communication-solutions/desktop-appliance/desktop-appliance/network-security-appliance-dna-1150  have many doubts about compatibility lan ports (marvell)

    Thanks in advance



  • Too i found http://www.advantech.com/products/MIO-5251/mod_FF8534CC-E858-40BA-9BC2-386F19BFEE4A.aspx

    with AES-NI and ECC memory

    Thanks, from Spain



  • None of those NICs will work with pfSense 2.1 unless you use a newer version of the igb driver (which will then break traffic shaping).  My suggestion would be to wait for 2.2 if you want that hardware, or install vSphere on the box and run pfSense as a VM.



  • @Jason:

    None of those NICs will work with pfSense 2.1 unless you use a newer version of the igb driver (which will then break traffic shaping).  My suggestion would be to wait for 2.2 if you want that hardware, or install vSphere on the box and run pfSense as a VM.

    We already know that 2.2 works without issue.

    The traffic shaping (altq) issue is being worked.



  • Any updates on this?
    Does anyone know if there's actually a C2350 board I can buy right now? Looks like it's still AVAILABLE SOON since October 2013.



  • @xoreaxeax:

    Any updates on this?
    Does anyone know if there's actually a C2350 board I can buy right now? Looks like it's still AVAILABLE SOON since October 2013.

    Axiomtek is shipping NA-361 appliance http://www.axiomtek.com/products/ViewProduct.asp?view=1101

    With C2358, Atom box can finally reach 900Mbps throughput (CPU @100%). Due to igb driver issue, it'll kernel panic within an hour.



  • @xoreaxeax:

    Any updates on this?
    Does anyone know if there's actually a C2350 board I can buy right now? Looks like it's still AVAILABLE SOON since October 2013.

    ASROCK has 2350 and 2750 boards



  • Lanner is selling a turn-key box and SuperMicro has Mini-ITX boards but, again, unless you're running vSphere on it you can't use it for pfSense until 2.2.  The updated driver in 2.1.1 was pulled for stability issues.

    EDIT:  … and now the driver is back.



  • @demco:

    Axiomtek is shipping NA-361 appliance http://www.axiomtek.com/products/ViewProduct.asp?view=1101

    I was looking for a fanless solution. That board looks like it has a fan, though I'm not sure about this. Also: where the hell can I, as a consumer, not as a reseller, actually buy one of these? I just can't find any online shop that sells them. It looks like US customers will have a chance on buying these kind of appliances before we (Europe) do. I'd appreciate it if someone could recommend a good US based online shop that also ships to Europe.

    @seed:

    ASROCK has 2350 and 2750 boards

    Can't find any (re-)sellers either.
    Only older ATOMs: http://www.asrock.com/mb/index.asp?s=Atom



  • @Jason:

    Lanner is selling a turn-key box and SuperMicro has Mini-ITX boards but, again, unless you're running vSphere on it you can't use it for pfSense until 2.2.  The updated driver in 2.1.1 was pulled for stability issues.

    EDIT:  … and now the driver is back.

    Yes, I believe the driver will be in 2.1.1 (which is not yet released).  I "believe" this because I'm making sure it happens (Ermal did the fix.)  :)



  • @xoreaxeax:

    @demco:

    Axiomtek is shipping NA-361 appliance http://www.axiomtek.com/products/ViewProduct.asp?view=1101

    I was looking for a fanless solution. That board looks like it has a fan, though I'm not sure about this. Also: where the hell can I, as a consumer, not as a reseller, actually buy one of these? I just can't find any online shop that sells them. It looks like US customers will have a chance on buying these kind of appliances before we (Europe) do. I'd appreciate it if someone could recommend a good US based online shop that also ships to Europe.

    @seed:

    ASROCK has 2350 and 2750 boards

    Can't find any (re-)sellers either.
    Only older ATOMs: http://www.asrock.com/mb/index.asp?s=Atom

    Netgate ships to Europe.  By extension the pfSense Store will also ship to Europe.  The C2K series products aren't >quite< here yet, because, unlike your random board shop, we don't ship things until the software works on them.

    (I'm just saying.)



  • @demco:

    @xoreaxeax:

    Any updates on this?
    Does anyone know if there's actually a C2350 board I can buy right now? Looks like it's still AVAILABLE SOON since October 2013.

    Axiomtek is shipping NA-361 appliance http://www.axiomtek.com/products/ViewProduct.asp?view=1101

    With C2358, Atom box can finally reach 900Mbps throughput (CPU @100%). Due to igb driver issue, it'll kernel panic within an hour.

    We're actually testing somewhat above that, without CPU saturation, or panics.    ;)

    Here are the results:
    -netperf
    root@load-src1:/root # netperf -H 10.0.1.2,ipv4 -4

    TCP STREAM TEST from 0.0.0.0 () port 0 AF_INET to 10.0.1.2 () port 0 AF_INET : histogram : interval : dirty data : demo

    Recv  Send    Send                         
    Socket Socket  Message  Elapsed
    Size    Size      Size      Time    Throughput 
    bytes  bytes    bytes      secs.    10^6bits/sec 
    65536  32768  32768    10.01    940.70

    • iperf
      root@load-src1:/root # iperf -c 10.0.1.2 -d -P 10

    –----------------------------------------------------------

    Server listening on TCP port 5001
    TCP window size: 64.0 KByte (default)



    Client connecting to 10.0.1.2, TCP port 5001
    TCP window size: 56.5 KByte (default)

    [  4] local 192.168.1.66 port 37397 connected with 10.0.1.2 port 5001
    [  3] local 192.168.1.66 port 37396 connected with 10.0.1.2 port 5001
    [  7] local 192.168.1.66 port 37400 connected with 10.0.1.2 port 5001
    [ 14] local 192.168.1.66 port 37405 connected with 10.0.1.2 port 5001
    [  5] local 192.168.1.66 port 37398 connected with 10.0.1.2 port 5001
    [  6] local 192.168.1.66 port 37399 connected with 10.0.1.2 port 5001
    [ 11] local 192.168.1.66 port 37402 connected with 10.0.1.2 port 5001
    [ 10] local 192.168.1.66 port 37401 connected with 10.0.1.2 port 5001
    [ 13] local 192.168.1.66 port 37404 connected with 10.0.1.2 port 5001
    [ 12] local 192.168.1.66 port 37403 connected with 10.0.1.2 port 5001

    Waiting for server threads to complete. Interrupt again to force quit.

    [ ID] Interval      Transfer    Bandwidth
    [  4]  0.0-10.0 sec  108 MBytes  90.6 Mbits/sec
    [  3]  0.0-10.0 sec  117 MBytes  98.1 Mbits/sec
    [  7]  0.0-10.0 sec  146 MBytes  122 Mbits/sec
    [ 14]  0.0-10.0 sec  88.8 MBytes  74.4 Mbits/sec
    [  5]  0.0-10.0 sec  104 MBytes  87.1 Mbits/sec
    [  6]  0.0-10.1 sec  110 MBytes  91.7 Mbits/sec
    [ 11]  0.0-10.1 sec  108 MBytes  89.2 Mbits/sec
    [ 10]  0.0-10.0 sec  108 MBytes  90.9 Mbits/sec
    [ 13]  0.0-10.0 sec  113 MBytes  94.7 Mbits/sec
    [ 12]  0.0-10.0 sec  119 MBytes  99.7 Mbits/sec
    [SUM]  0.0-10.1 sec  1.10 GBytes  928 Mbits/sec



  • Just out of curiosity, did you keep track of cpu utilization during those tests?


  • Netgate Administrator

    Whenever I've done similar tests I've just run top in a separate SSH session. That may introduce some additional overhead but I couldn't detect it. If the test is long enough you can just check the cpu usage graphs afterwards.

    Edit: Of course since the firewall under test is not sending or receiving the test traffic you can just run top on the console.  ::)

    These new Atom chips look very promising.

    Steve



  • @xparanoik:

    Just out of curiosity, did you keep track of cpu utilization during those tests?

    Not really.  It wasn't at 100%.

    We pushed data at it from the 10G test network today, only unidirectional udp traffic, but that's the tough case.
    Still didn't fall over.

    When the 2.2 snapshots servers are back on-line, we'll test 2.2.


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