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      satimis
      last edited by

      @stephenw10:

      So where do you have the PPPoE session setup, in the host or pfSense? Hard to see how the host can connect top the internet if pfSense is running the PPPoE.

      Hi,

      PPPoE session is setup on Host.  Before when I ran the connection of Host via -> Cable modem -> router
      There was address displayed

      You have spoofed the MAC in pfSense or in VirtualBox? Which interface?

      in pfSense.  Bridge Adapter/eth0

      What are the settings on the em0 interface in pfSense?

      Where can I find them?

      What IP address do you expect it to be?

      192.168.0.10/24

      Thanks

      Rgds
      satimis

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      • stephenw10S
        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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        So you've bridged the NIC in the host machine to the pfSense VM? And that's the same NIC that the host machine is running PPPoE over?

        How is the pfSense VM supposed to get an IP address in that range? Static IP? Are you running DHCP somewhere?

        Steve

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          satimis
          last edited by

          @stephenw10:

          So you've bridged the NIC in the host machine to the pfSense VM? And that's the same NIC that the host machine is running PPPoE over?

          Not yet on Host

          $ cat /etc/network/interfaces```

          auto lo
          iface lo inet loopback

          auto eth0

          auto dsl-provider
          iface dsl-provider inet ppp
          pre-up /sbin/ifconfig eth0 up # line maintained by pppoeconf
          provider dsl-provider

          iface eth0 inet manual

          
          > How is the pfSense VM supposed to get an IP address in that range? Static IP? Are you running DHCP somewhere?
          
          Static IP
          
          satimis
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          • stephenw10S
            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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            If the interface is set as static IP it should appear as:

             WAN (wan)      -> em0        -> v4: 192.168.0.10/24
            

            Did you set it as such in the initial setup?

            Steve

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              satimis
              last edited by

              @stephenw10:

              If the interface is set as static IP it should appear as:

               WAN (wan)      -> em0        -> v4: 192.168.0.10/24
              

              Did you set it as such in the initial setup?

              Sorry, I couldn't recall correctly.

              When the connection on PC;
              ISP -> Cable Modem -> Router -> PC

              WAN (wan)  -> em0  -> v4/DHCP: 192.168.0.12/24
              (pls see attached img)

              Now
              ISP -> Cable Modem -> PC
              No IP address displayed

              satimis

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              • stephenw10S
                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                Ah, so the WAN interface is set to DHCP not static. The router gives it an IP when it's connected. When it isn't there the pfSense VM must establish the PPPoE connection. It's going to be difficult to set that up without an internal interface of some sort. You could do by using the host machine and an additional virtual NIC. Alternatively you could use an addtional VM connected internally to pfSense.

                Steve

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                  satimis
                  last edited by

                  @stephenw10:

                  Ah, so the WAN interface is set to DHCP not static. The router gives it an IP when it's connected. When it isn't there the pfSense VM must establish the PPPoE connection. It's going to be difficult to set that up without an internal interface of some sort. You could do by using the host machine and an additional virtual NIC.

                  I have 2 physical NIC installed

                  -> Network

                  Adapter 1
                  [check] Enable Network Adapter
                  Attached to: Bridge Adapter
                  Neme: eth0) (I'm only allowed selecting eth0 or eth1 here, unable creating a name)
                  Advanced
                  Adapter Type: Intel PRO/1000MT Desktop (8254OEM)
                  Promiscuous Mode: Allow All
                  MAC Address: xxxxxxxxx
                  [check] Cable Connected
                  [Port Forwarding] (greyout)

                  Adapter 2
                  [check] Enable Network Adapter
                  Attached to: Internal Network
                  Neme: intnet
                  Advanced
                  Adapter Type: Intel PRO/1000MT Desktop (8254OEM)
                  Promiscuous Mode: Deny
                  MAC Address: xxxxxxxxx
                  [check] Cable Connected
                  [Port Forwarding] (greyout)

                  Alternatively you could use an addtional VM connected internally to pfSense.

                  Please advise how to do it.  Pointer would be appreciated.

                  Thanks

                  satimis

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                  • stephenw10S
                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                    last edited by

                    What is the setup you're hoping to achieve with this in the end?

                    The two NICs you listed above are they both real physical NICs? I'll assume they are.

                    So technically I believe you could use the one NIC to be both the LAN and carry the PPPoE session that is the WAN but it will be complex to set up and hugely open to error!  ;)

                    The should also the able to use the host machine to connect configure pfSense. I'm unfamiliar with virtualbox so I'll just outline what you would do. Create a virtual NIC in VB and add it to the pfSense VM. In pfSense assign that as the LAN interface. Do whatever is required in VB to make that NIC accessible by the host box and configure the host to use it as its default connection. The host should then receive an IP address from pfSense and you'll be able to connect the the webgui and configure the PPPoE connection.

                    An alternative would be to add an additional VM, anything with a web browser. Then add a virtual switch in VB and add virtual NICs to connect the new VM to it as well is the pfSense VM. In pfSense add the new NIC as LAN. Now the new VM should receive an IP from pfSense in the default range. Open the VM and open a browser, go to the webgui at 192.168.1.1 and configure pfSense. Setup the PPPoE connection.

                    Steve

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                      satimis
                      last edited by

                      @stephenw10:

                      What is the setup you're hoping to achieve with this in the end?

                      Hi,

                      My goal is to run pfSense as router (virtual) without the physical router.  I don't expect touching the Host, keeping it clean.  I have only 2 PCs, each with VirtualBox installed having 10 VMs running on each of them.  The network will be as follow:-

                      ISP -> Cable Modem -> eth0 of PC-1

                      eth1 of PC-1 -> eth0 of PC-2 (only one physical NIC on PC-2)

                      All VMs on both PC use the Virtual router for routing

                      The two NICs you listed above are they both real physical NICs? I'll assume they are.

                      Yes.  2 physical NICs.

                      Open the VM and open a browser, go to the webgui at 192.168.1.1 and configure pfSense. Setup the PPPoE connection.

                      I couldn't browse the webgui of pfSense on Host browser nor on another VM browser..  This is very strange to me.  I have installed another pfSense by importing pfSense.ova download.  Please see my new posting re "Unable to browse pfSense".  pfSense.ova was download on;
                      http://files.nyi.pfsense.org/mirror/downloads/old/

                      Now I have another image "pfSense-2.0.3-RELEASE-4g-amd64-nanobsd.img.gz" download.  I'll install another pfSense to check what will happen..

                      satimis

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                      • stephenw10S
                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                        last edited by

                        This is probably now a Virtual Box config problem. I'm no VB expert but please post some network config for your VMs. I'm not sure how that will work since a quick google seems to show that VirtualBox doesn't have a convenient network map.

                        Steve

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                          satimis
                          last edited by

                          @stephenw10:

                          This is probably now a Virtual Box config problem. I'm no VB expert but please post some network config for your VMs. I'm not sure how that will work since a quick google seems to show that VirtualBox doesn't have a convenient network map.

                          $ cat /etc/network/interfaces```

                          auto lo
                          iface lo inet loopback

                          VM1 and VM2 the same.
                          
                          Host:
                          $ cat /etc/network/interfaces```
                          
                          auto lo
                          iface lo inet loopback
                          
                          auto eth0
                          
                          auto dsl-provider
                          iface dsl-provider inet ppp
                          pre-up /sbin/ifconfig eth0 up # line maintained by pppoeconf
                          provider dsl-provider
                          
                          iface eth0 inet manual
                          
                          

                          satimis

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                          • stephenw10S
                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                            last edited by

                            What are VM1 and VM2?
                            Th host configuration is not important either. We need to see how VirtualBox's internal virtual network is configured. For example see the attached screenshot that I've shamelessly borrowed from Jonpoz. That's how ESXi shows it's network config.

                            Steve

                            physical.png
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                              satimis
                              last edited by

                              @stephenw10:

                              What are VM1 and VM2?

                              VM1 - Ubuntu 12.04 desktop
                              VM2 - LinuxMint desktop

                              Th host configuration is not important either. We need to see how VirtualBox's internal virtual network is configured. For example see the attached screenshot that I've shamelessly borrowed from Jonpoz. That's how ESXi shows it's network config.

                              How to find it?  Thanks

                              satimis

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                              • stephenw10S
                                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                last edited by

                                Hmm, Ok some reading later. It appears, and correct me if I'm wrong here, that there is no real concept of a switch in Virtual Box at least not by default. You can add various things like openvswitch to do it but it's not standard. There's also no easy way to view the whole network config as there is in ESXi so we have to go through it step by step. There are at least two internal networks that can be used to separate VMs and we can use for pfSense. There are also a ton of tutorials out there like this one: http://pc-addicts.com/how-to-install-pfsense-in-virtualbox/

                                Edit: Just watch that linked video. In fact you have as many independent internal networks as you want, the switches are implied.

                                So the pfSense VM should have two network adapters enabled. The first should be a bridge adapter, that will be the pfSense WAN. The second should be an internal adapter, that will be the pfSense LAN.
                                The VM you are suing to configure pfSense should have one network adapter and it should be the internal type.
                                The internal adapters of both VMs MUST have the same name otherwise they will be isolated.

                                I'm unsure about adding an adapter to allow the host to access the internet through pfSense though.  :-\

                                Steve

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                                  satimis
                                  last edited by

                                  @stephenw10:

                                  Hmm, Ok some reading later. It appears, and correct me if I'm wrong here, that there is no real concept of a switch in Virtual Box at least not by default. You can add various things like openvswitch to do it but it's not standard. There's also no easy way to view the whole network config as there is in ESXi so we have to go through it step by step. There are at least two internal networks that can be used to separate VMs and we can use for pfSense. There are also a ton of tutorials out there like this one: http://pc-addicts.com/how-to-install-pfsense-in-virtualbox/

                                  • snip-

                                  Thanks for your link.

                                  I have no problem to install pfSense but unable making it to work.  I have tried importing .ova and .vdi download on Internet.  pfSense can start without probem.  But I couldn't browse it on VM and Host.

                                  em0 -> (not pointing to device/IP address)
                                  (see image attached)

                                  It can't connect ISP even after filling in the MAC address.

                                  I watched following video;
                                  Setup Virtual Lab | Networking and Virtualbox
                                  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3W9QTm-l1ck

                                  The physical setup is behind a physical router
                                  ISP (pppoe/ethernet) -> Router -> PC

                                  What I expect to achieve is without a physical route.  If it is a MUST behind a physical router that is NOT what I expect to do.

                                  satimis

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                                    satimis
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                                    Hi stephenw10,

                                    Further to my late posting I found following article:
                                    Virtualize your router using pfSense and Virtualbox
                                    http://www.area536.com/projects/virtualize-your-router-using-pfsense-and-virtualbox/

                                    It seems to me possible to replace the physical router with pfSense as virtual router.

                                    I made another round download pfSense-2.0.3-RELEASE-amd64.ova and import it to VirtualBox.  Thereafter started it without problem.  Both em0 and em1 are connected.
                                    (see attached image)

                                    Adapter-1
                                    Bridge Adapter
                                    eth0

                                    Adapter-2
                                    Bridge Adapter
                                    eth1

                                    WAN (wan)  -> em1  -> 192.168.0.11 (DHCP)
                                    LAN (lan)  -> em0  -> 192.168.1.1

                                    But still I couldn't browse it on Host browser running;
                                    http://192.168.1.1
                                    or
                                    https://192.168.1.1

                                    It is quite strange to me.

                                    satimis

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                                    Screenshot_pfsense_a.png

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                                    • stephenw10S
                                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                      last edited by

                                      You will have to browse to the pfSense webgui from the internal VM and make sure they both connected to the same internal network name.
                                      What OS are you using for the other VM? Does it receive an IP from the pfSense DHCP server?

                                      Steve

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                                        satimis
                                        last edited by

                                        @stephenw10:

                                        You will have to browse to the pfSense webgui from the internal VM and make sure they both connected to the same internal network name.

                                        I got it, thanks

                                        VM - Ubuntu 12.04 desktop 64bit
                                        On browser ran;
                                        192.168.1.1

                                        -> Add Exception
                                        Get Certificate
                                        [check] Permanently store this exception
                                        -> Confirm Security Exception

                                        Pls see attached images.

                                        Adapter-1 same as pfSense
                                        Adapter-2 same as pfSense

                                        What will be the login and password ?

                                        Where can I find tutorial using the webgui pfSense to configure ?

                                        $ cat /etc/network/interfaces```

                                        auto lo
                                        iface lo inet loopback

                                        
                                        sudo ifconfig
                                        

                                        eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 08:00:27:10:8c:3d 
                                                  inet addr:192.168.0.12  Bcast:192.168.0.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
                                                  inet6 addr: fe80::a00:27ff:fe10:8c3d/64 Scope:Link
                                                  UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
                                                  RX packets:4549 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
                                                  TX packets:3824 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
                                                  collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
                                                  RX bytes:4787482 (4.7 MB)  TX bytes:630362 (630.3 KB)

                                        eth1      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 08:00:27:e6:ca:14 
                                                  inet addr:192.168.1.100  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
                                                  inet6 addr: fe80::a00:27ff:fee6:ca14/64 Scope:Link
                                                  UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
                                                  RX packets:267 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
                                                  TX packets:268 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
                                                  collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
                                                  RX bytes:176246 (176.2 KB)  TX bytes:37546 (37.5 KB)

                                        lo        Link encap:Local Loopback 
                                                  inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
                                                  inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
                                                  UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:65536  Metric:1
                                                  RX packets:254 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
                                                  TX packets:254 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
                                                  collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
                                                  RX bytes:44773 (44.7 KB)  TX bytes:44773 (44.7 KB)

                                        
                                        I don't think Ubuntu 12.04 receive IP from pfSense routing?
                                        
                                        On Host
                                        $ sudo ifconfig```
                                        
                                        eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:26:18:44:b6:1a  
                                                  inet addr:192.168.0.10  Bcast:192.168.0.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
                                                  inet6 addr: fe80::226:18ff:fe44:b61a/64 Scope:Link
                                                  UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
                                                  RX packets:14177 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
                                                  TX packets:12287 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:4
                                                  collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 
                                                  RX bytes:15365450 (14.6 MiB)  TX bytes:1973191 (1.8 MiB)
                                                  Interrupt:18 
                                        
                                        eth1      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 90:f6:52:03:57:86  
                                                  UP BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
                                                  RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
                                                  TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
                                                  collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 
                                                  RX bytes:0 (0.0 B)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 B)
                                                  Interrupt:43 Base address:0xe000 
                                        
                                        lo        Link encap:Local Loopback  
                                                  inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
                                                  inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
                                                  UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
                                                  RX packets:8 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
                                                  TX packets:8 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
                                                  collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 
                                                  RX bytes:480 (480.0 B)  TX bytes:480 (480.0 B)
                                        
                                        

                                        What OS are you using for the other VM?

                                        I have Ubuntu/LinuxMint/OpenSUSE running here.

                                        Does it receive an IP from the pfSense DHCP server?

                                        I don't think so.  It receive IP from the physical router

                                        Connection;
                                        ISP -> Cable Modem -> Router -> PC eth0 (built-in NIC of motherboard)

                                        After making sure it works I'll change back to;
                                        ISP -> Cable Modem -> PC eth0 (built-in NIC of motherboard)

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                                        • stephenw10S
                                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                          Aha!  :)
                                          The default login is admin:pfsense
                                          The IP address in the Ubuntu VM, 192.168.1.100 is in the pfSense LAN default subnet. Is is not receiving that from the pfSense VM? Or did you set it manually? It looks like your physical router is using 192.168.0.X for its lan side subnet.
                                          Why do you have two NICs in the Ubuntu VM?

                                          There are many tutorials for setting up pfSense. Check Youtube, the docs wiki here, many places.  :) When you first login there is a wizard to guide through the initial setup anyway.

                                          Set the WAN to DHCP. It should then receive an IP from your physical router and you will be able to ping things from the pfSense console. Then when you know that the pfSense VM has connectivity to the router try removing the router and reconfiguring the pfSense WAN for PPPoE.

                                          Steve

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                                            satimis
                                            last edited by

                                            @stephenw10:

                                            Aha!  :)
                                            The default login is admin:pfsense

                                            Thanks  Now I can login.

                                            The IP address in the Ubuntu VM, 192.168.1.100 is in the pfSense LAN default subnet. Is is not receiving that from the pfSense VM? Or did you set it manually? It looks like your physical router is using 192.168.0.X for its lan side subnet.

                                            pfSense is now working on my system, routing the traffic to all VMs on PC-1

                                            PC-2
                                            Connect the physical NIC of PC-1 to that of PC-2
                                            Now PC-2 can connect ISP browsing Internet.

                                            Setting of static IP on VMs of PC-2 (MintLinux)

                                            $ cat /etc/network/interface```

                                            auto lo
                                            iface lo inet loopback

                                            The primary network interface

                                            auto eth0
                                            iface eth0 inet static
                                                    address        192.168.1.11
                                                    dns-nameservers xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
                                                    network        192.168.1.1/100
                                                    netmask        255.255.255.0
                                                    gateway        192.168.1.1

                                            
                                            $ sudo ifconfig```
                                            
                                            eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 08:00:27:b5:8d:04  
                                                      inet addr:192.168.1.11  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
                                                      inet6 addr: fe80::a00:27ff:feb5:8d04/64 Scope:Link
                                                      UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
                                                      RX packets:209 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
                                                      TX packets:209 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
                                                      collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 
                                                      RX bytes:220407 (220.4 KB)  TX bytes:25932 (25.9 KB)
                                            
                                            lo        Link encap:Local Loopback  
                                                      inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
                                                      inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
                                                      UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:65536  Metric:1
                                                      RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
                                                      TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
                                                      collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 
                                                      RX bytes:0 (0.0 B)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 B)
                                            
                                            

                                            Why do you have two NICs in the Ubuntu VM?

                                            I was not sure which virtual NIC would work, eth0 and eth1.  Later I found it eth1.  Now I have unchecked Adapter 2"

                                            Why eth1 NOT eth0?

                                            There are many tutorials for setting up pfSense. Check Youtube, the docs wiki here, many places.

                                            Yes, Google found me many including the official tutorial of pfSense.  I just wonder which of them is suitable to me.

                                            Set the WAN to DHCP. It should then receive an IP from your physical router and you will be able to ping things from the pfSense console. Then when you know that the pfSense VM has connectivity to the router try removing the router and reconfiguring the pfSense WAN for PPPoE.

                                            Thanks.  I'll check it later to see whether;
                                            ISP -> Cable Modem -> PC-1

                                            this connect will work.  Interface here is PPPoE.  It worked before installing/running pfSense.

                                            satimis

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