TP-LINK Smart Switches anyone?
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Also you could clear up the original question from this thread: can you do a trunked VLAN connection such that you can use it to get more interfaces with pfSense?
will do
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Can you confirm if the Easy Smart range have a webgui? There seemed to references to one in the manual for the 16port version but not the 8port.
Also you could clear up the original question from this thread: can you do a trunked VLAN connection such that you can use it to get more interfaces with pfSense?Yes - it works with pfSense trunked, you can create as many as 512 VLANs in the switch and give them all to pfSense on one interface as tagged packets. In pfSense you can create then virtual interfaces for them. I've tested this successfully with two VLANs.
That's why I finally bought two TP-Link TL-SG2216. They both are Easy Smart and have webgui and cli interfaces. I'm planning to use about 5-6 VLANs at the beginning. -
So you guys got me playing this morning with the TP-Link TL-SG1042DE with just the Easysmart GUI interface (no CLI).
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That's why I finally bought two TP-Link TL-SG2216. They both are Easy Smart and have webgui and cli interfaces.
Erm… am I missing something here. :-\ Forgive me Robi if I am. The TL-SG2216 is not in the Easy Smart range hence it has all the features you might expect from an entry level managed switch like webgui and CLI etc. The Easy Smart, such as the one Pete has, is cut right back to allow them to offer it as cheaply as possible. It appears to me that they are directly competing with Netgears 'Prosafe Plus' range, GS105E, GS108E etc, which offer some entry level management features, including VLANs, but do not have a webgui. You have to use their Windows only utility, boo! If TP-Links competing range does have a webgui then that's a distinct advantage. I huge advantage in my house where I have no Windows boxes. ;)
Pete's screenshot appears to show that at least the 24port model does have a webgui. Unfortunately it's the entry level 8 port model I'm most interested in.
Edit: Or is that a screenshot of the utility?
Steve
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Actually the Web GUI on the switch is a bit simpler looking than the management application.
Yeah from the description it appears that the EasySmart 8 and 16 port switches do not have a built in Web GUI.
The EasySmart managment application might run in Linux as its Java.
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Installed Java and the TP-Link application in Wine on a little tablet I have running Ubuntu 12.10.
Looks to work fine except its not seeing the switches.
Never really used Wine before. I installed the configuration utility using the wine installer.
Its still not seeing the switches.
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Installed Java and the TP-Link application in Wine on a little tablet I have running Ubuntu 12.10.
Looks to work fine except its not seeing the switches.
Never really used Wine before. I installed the configuration utility using the wine installer.
Its still not seeing the switches.
I don't think you should need Wine at all. Install the java package un Ubuntu as described here (that's jut one way to do it, but you can search for many other installation alternatives), and try to run javaws.jar or othe other .jar files directly. Maybe you could do some little hacking by finding how the launcher.exe is calling the app, you can similarly call it in linux then.
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The TL-SG2216 is not in the Easy Smart range hence it has all the features you might expect from an entry level managed switch like webgui and CLI etc.
Oops, sorry indeed. I remember now. On the OP I was also asking whether should I buy an Easy Smart version or a Smart version, and indeed, I finally bought the TL-SG2216 Smart one. The naming of these switch models is so confusing. Almost as worse as Ciscos, lol.
In my area, the TL-SG1016DE easy smart costs 123USD while the TL-SG2216 smart costs 144 USD. It's worth the 21 bucks difference at 16 ports both, to be platform independent and have CLI too.
I also have a couple of TL-SG1016 unmanaged dumb swithces (not the'DE' version) - these are the ones I'm going to replace with the TL-SG2216s. The final kick to choose this model was the fact that the TL-SG2216 is exactly the same size (physically - width/height/depth) as the TL-SG1016, so I don't need to replace my special mounting solution in one of the locations. That's just a bonus for me. -
Thank you guys; this discussion has been enlightening for me.
Yeah the first test was just to try the management application with Wine. It does work but doesn't see the switches. Will try playing around with the jar files as I have java installed on the Ubuntu side of things.
Here too one TP-Link EasySmart switch was a swap out of another switch in the Leviton media panel. It does fit just right. I do have many LV wires running on either side of the switch. No fan vents help in the mounting of the switch. The basic EasySmart 24 port switch with just the GUI interface is smaller than the next up version of the switch. One of the two switches has been up over a year; fully populated and barely warm to the touch. Most of the volume of traffic is relating to streaming HD stuff from multiple sources to multiple clients (+ 20 touchscreens) plus now some CCTV HD IP traffic. Price was right too. 'bout hitting around the end of that initially installed /25 subnet. Sort of related I have a similar setup in another location with the cover on the media panel now running for some 4 years 24/7; simple and functional and not seen.
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One more interesting observation related to TP-Link TL-SG2216.
Configuration can be backed up and restored from the web interface. The .cfg file generated is nothing else, than a list of cisco-style console commands which build up the functions of the switch. Very sweet. One could edit the file before restoring…
It contains commands like below:```
interface gigabitEthernet 1/0/6
switchport general allowed vlan 222 untagged
switchport pvid 222
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That is interesting. Makes you wonder if it's possible to achieve some configuration that might not be possible via the webgui. Hidden options etc.
Steve
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That's what I was thinking too. The complete CLI guide is downloadable in PDF from their site.
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There's a new firmware available for TL-SG2216. Updating the device automatically restores it to factory default so a double-check is needed that a config backup has been done before the operation. Don't know how the other models behave, but I guess it's similar.
Unfortunately it also returns to the 192.168.0.1 IP address without gateway set, so if you have to do it remotely make sure you have a telnet-capable machine somewhere connected close, . A good idea would be to keep the default '1' vlan as it is just for management later (keep it as untagged 'native' vlan on the 'trunk' ports between the switches and pfSense), and when it returns to factory defaults, you only need to telnet in, set a default gateway by CLI and you can access the web interface from other networks if that's the case, to restore the config.
But I think copying the entire contents of the config file to clipboard and pasting it to the telnet window would do the same.If 'trunking' vlans to pfSense, as I said above I suggest to keep vlan 1 untagged on that port. In pfSense assign the IP address 192.168.0.254 to the physical port which connects to the switch. This way, you can always telnet in your switch wihout any routing from an SSH window on pfSense.
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It's worth upgrading, as I see the firmware contains lots of new multicast and IPv6 features (like MLD snooping).
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http://www.tp-link.com/en/products/details/?categoryid=2878&model=TL-SG108E
New owner of a TL-SG108E here.
The device has no way to configure other than windows program.
The device is currently operating in the following fashion:
Port 1 is plugged into a Staff router (Asa 5505) - Vlan 1
Port 2 is plugged into a Public use router (WRT54gV2) - Vlan 50 - PVID 50
Port 8 is plugged into a Ubiquiti AP - PVID 1 - Public Wifi sent through VLAN 50, Staff through VLAN 1I've attached an image.
If you want to know why this abomination was necessary, read this: http://goo.gl/WTv0ah
Hopefully this helps with some of the questions presented here.
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Well at least that's an answer to the earlier question, there is no web interface on the cheapest model. Disappointing.
Steve
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You don't have to buy the cheapest one, really. Price difference is very minimal - pfSense's average user base should really avoid the cheapest models because they are not intended as target market for them.
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That's certainly true for many but not everyone. One thing that makes pfSense, and its community, different from other projects is the very widely varying user base. Some are using it to replace $10K commercial routers and others with hardware gathered from scrap. The latter group are often asking about the cheapest way to add interfaces and using VLANs can be that especially as VLAN capable switches become ever cheaper.
Netgear seem to be threatening to put a webgui on their GS105e so that may remain the cheapest and easiest way to add VLANs.Steve
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You don't have to buy the cheapest one, really. Price difference is very minimal - pfSense's average user base should really avoid the cheapest models because they are not intended as target market for them.
As a smart man once said, "Nobody puts Baby in a corner." :)
$30 for vlan support could come in handy for a number of situations. In my case, it is just a stop gap. I wont feel bad about it going unused later on because it was so cheap.
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I agree, but in that case, it's unfair to be disappointed that there's no CLI or webif available for it.
