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    I have more interfaces than actual hardware ports

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      altiris
      last edited by

      @stephenw10:

      Yes, as long as the router really is only switching.
      pfSense will know which devices have which IP addresses and hence what is connecting to outside addresses. It will not have any knowledge of traffic between devices on the switch.

      Steve

      alright sounds good. Don't know if you can give me a hand with this but I have hooked up a server/computer I have to the switch (remember switch is connected to LAN interface) and I want to establish a link with the internal ip and external IP, so I will have to do a 1:1 NAT. I did one and I also made a rule on the firewall on the wan interface to allow traffic from Port 443 (testing purpoes) on my internal IP but when I type my external IP into the address bar from another computer nothing will load. I will post screenshot in a few seconds.

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      • DerelictD
        Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
        last edited by

        Why did you put a destination in your 1:1?  Did you read the text?

        ![Screen Shot 2014-12-28 at 6.30.28 PM.png](/public/imported_attachments/1/Screen Shot 2014-12-28 at 6.30.28 PM.png)
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        Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
        A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
        DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
        Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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        • stephenw10S
          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
          last edited by

          Do you need all ports NAT'd to the server? You should probably use a single port forward, for testing at least, instead.
          However if you do want 1:1 NAT it should be on the WAN interface and the 'destination' should be left as 'any'.
          Since your pfSense box is behind the Sonicwall device is it's WAN address a private IP? If so you need to uncheck 'block private networks' in the WAN interface setup.
          Lastly you will need to test your port forward from a device on the WAN side of the pfSense box.

          Steve

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            altiris
            last edited by

            @Derelict:

            Why did you put a destination in your 1:1?  Did you read the text?

            I got confused when reading this lol https://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/Why_does_enabling_NAT_Reflection_break_web_surfing

            EDIT: Actually, if I leave the destination with a * then I am unable to surf the web on that machine. I have to set an IP for the destination if I want to be able to browse the web with 1:1 NAT.

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              altiris
              last edited by

              @stephenw10:

              Do you need all ports NAT'd to the server? You should probably use a single port forward, for testing at least, instead.
              However if you do want 1:1 NAT it should be on the WAN interface and the 'destination' should be left as 'any'.
              Since your pfSense box is behind the Sonicwall device is it's WAN address a private IP? If so you need to uncheck 'block private networks' in the WAN interface setup.
              Lastly you will need to test your port forward from a device on the WAN side of the pfSense box.

              Steve

              I selected lan instead of wan by accident lol but I don't know whether I should do Port Forward or just 1:1 NAT. I do not want all ports to be opened and the way I am doing it is 1:1 NAT which forwards/allows everything from the external IP to internal IP or something like that right? However because pfsense has a firewall, it is preventing from all ports being accessible to LAN right? So essentially either Port forward of One-to-one nat will do the same thing???

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                altiris
                last edited by

                Ugh so I thought I got it working but I didn't. I am trying to port forward instead of just doing 1:1 NAT. I can't seem to get it working. Do I need to add a rule to the firewall and I saw in a video someone making a virtual ip alias in pfsense, do I need to one to do one? I'll try and postake a screen shot.

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                • DerelictD
                  Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                  last edited by

                  This is a sample rule forwarding Minecraft on TCP:25565 (minecraft_server port alias set to 25565) to my os_x_server (host alias defined as 192.168.223.17).  Note that I let the NAT configuration  create the firewall rule so I don't have to using the filter rule association.

                  If I wanted the incoming connections to be addressed to anything other than "WAN address" I would have to create a VIP.  In this case I don't.

                  port-forward.png
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                  Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                  A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                  DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                  Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                    altiris
                    last edited by

                    @Derelict:

                    This is a sample rule forwarding Minecraft on TCP:25565 (minecraft_server port alias set to 25565) to my os_x_server (host alias defined as 192.168.223.17).  Note that I let the NAT configuration  create the firewall rule so I don't have to using the filter rule association.

                    If I wanted the incoming connections to be addressed to anything other than "WAN address" I would have to create a VIP.  In this case I don't.

                    I try following your steps but it doesnt work. I noticed how you said if you wanted incoming connections to be anything other than the WAN address of pfsense you would have to create a virtual ip. So, since the WAN address of my server and pfsense box are different (I want incoming connections for a certain IP and port 80 to go to internal IP). Only thing I dont get like you do isthe NAT association rule.

                    Ive blocked out my WAN IP in the images for privacy reasons…but I hope its still enough that you can have an idea on what I am doing incorrectly.

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                    • DerelictD
                      Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                      last edited by

                      Looks like it should work to me.

                      Is the proper Firewall rule on Firewall > Rules > WAN??

                      Everything configured right on the web server and it has its default gateway set to pfSense?

                      No software firewall on the web server blocking access from foreign networks?

                      Web server is actually running and listening on tcp/80?

                      Not much else to it.

                      Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                      A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                      DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                      Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                        altiris
                        last edited by

                        @Derelict:

                        Looks like it should work to me.

                        Is the proper Firewall rule on Firewall > Rules > WAN??

                        Everything configured right on the web server and it has its default gateway set to pfSense?

                        No software firewall on the web server blocking access from foreign networks?

                        Web server is actually running and listening on tcp/80?

                        Not much else to it.

                        Well to go back, when I create a Virtual IP (one that will be used to assign to my server) if I type in that IP I am brought to a pfsense page, which isnt what I want. I want to be brought to my web servers page. So I guess I have to remove the virtual IP? As for proper firewall rules, the rule that gets created from  making the NAT port forwarding is in the WAN interface. Everything on the server side is correct yet I when I try to access the web server with the external IP nothing loads.

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                        • DerelictD
                          Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                          last edited by

                          try changing the type of virtual IP to proxy arp.  that will absolutely prevent any services on the firewall node from binding to it.

                          Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                          A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                          DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                          Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                          • DerelictD
                            Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                            last edited by

                            if I type in that IP I am brought to a pfsense page

                            if you type that IP from where?  inside or outside?

                            Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                            A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                            DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                            Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                              altiris
                              last edited by

                              @Derelict:

                              if I type in that IP I am brought to a pfsense page

                              if you type that IP from where?  inside or outside?

                              Inside…..am I beginning to realize something lol...
                              EDIT: Wow, amazing. If I do it from internal I am brought to pfsense page. if I do it from externally then I am brought to my web server. Wow.

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                              • stephenw10S
                                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                last edited by

                                For an explanation and solutions see: https://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/Why_can%27t_I_access_forwarded_ports_on_my_WAN_IP_from_my_LAN/OPTx_networks

                                Steve

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