X11SBA-LN4F vs A1SRi-2558F
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I would agree that a 2558 based system would be a much better choice for someone with the bandwidth requirements that need it. My ISP is very limited so the quick assist means nothing to me but to others it may. Like I said the X1SBA-F-O is a good choice for me.
It surprises me a bit that the 2558 options from Supermicro are less expensive than the 2358 boards since both are available with similar options. I guess the only reason to go with the 2358 is if power consumption is a priority.
Have you bought the 2 port version yet? Can you keep us (or me) updated as to whether you have issues with any of the LAN ports on the board? Also, if you don't mind, can you post your board revision and BIOS version?
Thanks in advance! :)
Edit: Darnit, sorry about not reading enough. I see that you're going forward in the next few months. Sorry about that.
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No problem. :) I'll be sure to post results when I do order and get it up and running.
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I would agree that a 2558 based system would be a much better choice for someone with the bandwidth requirements that need it. My ISP is very limited so the quick assist means nothing to me but to others it may. Like I said the X1SBA-F-O is a good choice for me.
I understand.
However, given the cost, this is something I expect to buy/upgrade once in a few years (I hope it will last at least five years).
My bandwidth is currently 70Mbps/4Mbps which is really slow so C2558 might even be an overkill, but I plan to run a few packages, not to mention that the internet speeds can only go up in the future so I consider this future-proofing.
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Just wanted to update the thread. We received our box back from supermicro yesterday and will be installing it into production tomorrow. The repair report is somewhat vague about what they changed, but maybe it makes more sense to someone else:
Customer Reported Symptoms: Watchdog timeout on ethernet ports. Per TS, need ECO 18137 Test result notes and repair: REPORTED PROBLEM FOUND. WATCHDOG TIMEOUTS ON ETHERNET PORTS. M/B HW ECO COMPLETED BY REWORK. M/B BIOS, IPMI FW UPDATED TO CURRENT REVISION DONE. CPU, DIMM SLOT DETECTION VERIFIED. NIC PORT, USB PORT, IPMI CONNECTION TEST PASS. NIC PORT LAN EEPROM FW UPDATED TO CURRENT REVISION COMPLETE. NIC PORT PASSED OVERNIGHT PING TEST. COM PORT CONNECTION VERIFIED. SYSTEM HARDWARE FUNCTIONAL TEST PASS. ECO VERIFIED. ALL M/B SCREWS CHECKED. TEST PASSED.I'm not too sure what the ECO refers to. Anyone have an idea?
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I just got the 2 port version and have the same issue with the 2nd port.
I put both ports in a LAGG and see the 2nd port stop passing traffic. I don't see watchdog timeouts in the log though.
The rest of the machine keeps running fine on only 1 port.ECO means Engineering Change Order (ECO)
Definitely sounds like a hardware change, looks like I'll have to send mine back too.
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Well I guess this last reply counts me out for either version of this board. I'm not knowledgeable enough to be a beta tester for motherboards so I'll stick with a proven performer.
Bummer, either one of these would have suited me perfectly. :(
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Just wanted to update the thread. We received our box back from supermicro yesterday and will be installing it into production tomorrow. The repair report is somewhat vague about what they changed, but maybe it makes more sense to someone else:
Customer Reported Symptoms: Watchdog timeout on ethernet ports. Per TS, need ECO 18137 Test result notes and repair: REPORTED PROBLEM FOUND. WATCHDOG TIMEOUTS ON ETHERNET PORTS. M/B HW ECO COMPLETED BY REWORK. M/B BIOS, IPMI FW UPDATED TO CURRENT REVISION DONE. CPU, DIMM SLOT DETECTION VERIFIED. NIC PORT, USB PORT, IPMI CONNECTION TEST PASS. NIC PORT LAN EEPROM FW UPDATED TO CURRENT REVISION COMPLETE. NIC PORT PASSED OVERNIGHT PING TEST. COM PORT CONNECTION VERIFIED. SYSTEM HARDWARE FUNCTIONAL TEST PASS. ECO VERIFIED. ALL M/B SCREWS CHECKED. TEST PASSED.I'm not too sure what the ECO refers to. Anyone have an idea?
This one is interesting too…..
NIC PORT LAN EEPROM FW UPDATED TO CURRENT REVISION COMPLETE.
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I saw that too. Obviously a firmware issue with the controller causing the timeouts.
I wonder how long production on them will run before the issue gets fixed in the manufacturing process?
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Side note…my board has now been up 35 days on 2.2.5 with NO issues. ZERO watchdog timeouts now.
I saw that too. Obviously a firmware issue with the controller causing the timeouts.
I wonder how long production on them will run before the issue gets fixed in the manufacturing process?
I was wondering the same. Don't know how many were in the supply chain before this was caught and SM seems content to ship them out defective and fix them IF the customer catches it (not always the case).
I just got the 2 port version and have the same issue with the 2nd port.
What hardware revision does your 2 port board have on it (1.01 on the 4 port version so far is all that I have seen)?
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Just noticed a new firmware 1.0b is now available. Anyone want to try to see if it possibly solves this issue before sending the board back?
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Just noticed a new firmware 1.0b is now available. Anyone want to try to see if it possibly solves this issue before sending the board back?
Is there a place to see what the BIOS revisions are? There has to be somewhere but I'm obviously not smart enough to find it on my own.
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Just noticed a new firmware 1.0b is now available. Anyone want to try to see if it possibly solves this issue before sending the board back?
Is there a place to see what the BIOS revisions are? There has to be somewhere but I'm obviously not smart enough to find it on my own.
I've not been able to find any sort of change log at SM for any firmware.
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Bios update didn't make any difference.
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I found this thread via Google, so i registered an account, because i have a similar Problem. I have a new X11SBA-LN4F, installed the newest pfSense build on it and configured (I switched from a X10SBA, because i Need Minimum 3 NICs). So far so good, but i have also These Watchdog timeouts. These occurs only on the igb2, which is my LAN Interface. I made some Tests and saw, that the timeout only occurs on heavy network load (LAN -> WAN / WAN -> LAN). Firmware and BIOS of my X11SBA-LN4F are also up2date. I bought this board 1 week ago.
Is the only solution to get it to work, to RMA this board? -
I found this thread via Google, so i registered an account, because i have a similar Problem. I have a new X11SBA-LN4F, installed the newest pfSense build on it and configured (I switched from a X10SBA, because i Need Minimum 3 NICs). So far so good, but i have also These Watchdog timeouts. These occurs only on the igb2, which is my LAN Interface. I made some Tests and saw, that the timeout only occurs on heavy network load (LAN -> WAN / WAN -> LAN). Firmware and BIOS of my X11SBA-LN4F are also up2date. I bought this board 1 week ago.
Is the only solution to get it to work, to RMA this board?Yes, appears to be a hardware issue. Talking to ldean, SuperMicro has stated that the board has been updated to hardware revision 1.02 and the remaining 1.01 boards were to be changed (ECO) to the same level via modification. Seems that they have not done them all yet if you have received one.
Is your hardware level 1.01?
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Yes, appears to be a hardware issue. Talking to ldean, SuperMicro has stated that the board has been updated to hardware revision 1.02 and the remaining 1.01 boards were to be changed (ECO) to the same level via modification. Seems that they have not done them all yet if you have received one.
Is your hardware level 1.01?
Do i find the Revision number on the board itself? I will check that. The shop, which sells the board, have many pieces on stock, so i think this would be an older delivery. Then the only way is to send it back? If so, does this goes back directly to supermicro or via my Reseller?
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Yes, appears to be a hardware issue. Talking to ldean, SuperMicro has stated that the board has been updated to hardware revision 1.02 and the remaining 1.01 boards were to be changed (ECO) to the same level via modification. Seems that they have not done them all yet if you have received one.
Is your hardware level 1.01?
Do i find the Revision number on the board itself? I will check that. The shop, which sells the board, have many pieces on stock, so i think this would be an older delivery. Then the only way is to send it back? If so, does this goes back directly to supermicro or via my Reseller?
Unless you can get your reseller to swap out to a 1.02 board, you'll need to get in contact with SuperMicro and request an RMA. You might open a tech support ticket up first and reference this thread as well as Ken Huang of SuperMicro. He should know the details by now.
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I have some good and some bad news. First, i have read from another user with the same problem. He let change the board to the new revision, but he still has the same problems. They did not occur as many as before, but they ar present. He said, its because the cheap pci-e switch on the board. Thats the bad news.
Now the good news. On my pfsense, i have increased the mbuf size to one million, with 8gb ram that should not be a problem. I have did this last sunday evening, so 3 days before. Today i checked my logs (logging to external syslog server), and there was NO ONE entry about whatchdog timeout. Before the increase of the mbuf size, i had to wait only a few hours. I will see whats happen the next days.
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I have some good and some bad news. First, i have read from another user with the same problem. He let change the board to the new revision, but he still has the same problems. They did not occur as many as before, but they ar present. He said, its because the cheap pci-e switch on the board. Thats the bad news.
Now the good news. On my pfsense, i have increased the mbuf size to one million, with 8gb ram that should not be a problem. I have did this last sunday evening, so 3 days before. Today i checked my logs (logging to external syslog server), and there was NO ONE entry about whatchdog timeout. Before the increase of the mbuf size, i had to wait only a few hours. I will see whats happen the next days.
My board would timeout between 1 hour and 4 days, depending on load. That is bad news about the board revision still doing it. My board has been up 50+ days since the correction with no timeouts.
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Day 4 without any issue. I will check that for the next few days and will report here, but it seems to look not bad:)
