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      karaznie
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      Hi

      I decided to write few words regarding my experience with router built on Gigabyte motherboard GA-N3150N-D3V. This is relatively fresh Gigabyte motherboard with:

      • Celeron N3150 processor
      • 2 x 1GbE Realtec NICs onboard
      • 2 SATA 6 and 2 SATA 3 interfaces
      • fullsize PCI

      Additionally to built my router I used:

      • PicoPSU-80
      • 120GB SSD Kingston disk
      • M350 MINI-ITX case
      • some cheap 60W power adapter

      Overall pretty cheap, good router.

      My expectation was to build fast home router with snort, squid and efficient VPN clients. Especially VPN part was crucial to me since my asus ac87rt router was the problem with some heavy VPN traffic. So AES acceleration was very important attribute to me. Decided to go with Celeron N3150.

      Whole experience with pfSense on this setup was flawless. I basically put all parts together, put USB with pfSense and it just worked. I wholeheartedly recommend it to anyone. Everything from the beginning just works. I even didn't touched BIOS; this was actually surprising regarding Gigabyte's J1900 motherboards experience described on this forum. I just used default configuration. One thing to consider is to boot from VGA port as it is configured as default in BIOS, so if You have DVI only monitor (or HDMI) You need to find someone with VGA.

      I'm more than satisfied. Right now I have one week uptime with 3 VPN clients, snort and squid. No problem at all and works just great.

      I believe that currently Celeron N3150 is the best processor out there for fanless router. AES NI works out of the box. Below some openssl speed test results:

      openssl speed -evp aes-256-cbc -engine cryptodev
      engine "cryptodev" set.
      Doing aes-256-cbc for 3s on 16 size blocks: 877554 aes-256-cbc's in 0.34s
      Doing aes-256-cbc for 3s on 64 size blocks: 830667 aes-256-cbc's in 0.37s
      Doing aes-256-cbc for 3s on 256 size blocks: 677595 aes-256-cbc's in 0.19s
      Doing aes-256-cbc for 3s on 1024 size blocks: 397259 aes-256-cbc's in 0.15s
      Doing aes-256-cbc for 3s on 8192 size blocks: 80275 aes-256-cbc's in 0.06s
      OpenSSL 1.0.1l-freebsd 15 Jan 2015
      built on: date not available
      options:bn(64,64) rc4(16x,int) des(idx,cisc,16,int) aes(partial) idea(int) blowfish(idx)
      compiler: clang
      The 'numbers' are in 1000s of bytes per second processed.
      type            16 bytes    64 bytes    256 bytes  1024 bytes  8192 bytes
      aes-256-cbc      40846.15k  144783.49k  925143.04k  2740501.67k 10521804.80k

      I someone have any questions I can answer with pleasure.

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        TD22057
        last edited by

        Thanks for the information.  Where did you buy the motherboard from?  I can't find it for sale anywhere in the US right now (it's $130 on ebay shipped from Italy but that pushes the price up higher).

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          2chemlud Banned
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          Hi!

          Is the case really OK with you? It's getting hot in there, not?

          I have an Atom CPU D525 board in there and it is getting over 65°C without load at 20°C ambient when the case is closed without any fans.

          PS: OK, TDP 6W (Celeron) vs. 13 W (Atom). Apparently that makes a difference…

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            karaznie
            last edited by

            Frankly I haven't monitored temperatures carefully, however what I can see temps are between (celsius) 52 (idle) to maybe 58 max under heavy load (doing my performance tests). I think it's ok. zotac released CI323 nano with this processor with smaller, and even more packed case.

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              karaznie
              last edited by

              @TD22057:

              Thanks for the information.  Where did you buy the motherboard from?  I can't find it for sale anywhere in the US right now (it's $130 on ebay shipped from Italy but that pushes the price up higher).

              I live in europe, and here I bought this boar for about $80. Indeed I cannot find it on amercian amazon. It may be dedicated board for Europe. For this price You can actually buy zotac CI323 nano baroness with the same processor and Wi-FI. Others reporting on this forum sucess installing pfSense on this box. Box looks really cool. A drawback is You cannot expand zotac with PCI though.

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                2chemlud Banned
                last edited by

                I will put a 80 x 15 mm silent fan on the passive cooling of the CPU. Should fit inside case and temps are nearly ambient with a 80 x 25 mm fan (NOT fitting in the case, but with case cover lying on the fan).

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                  hardsense
                  last edited by

                  Thanks for this info.

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                    Blade Runner
                    last edited by

                    @karaznie:

                    Hi

                    I decided to write few words regarding my experience with router built on Gigabyte motherboard GA-N3150N-D3V. This is relatively fresh Gigabyte motherboard with:

                    • Celeron N3150 processor
                    • 2 x 1GbE Realtec NICs onboard
                    • 2 SATA 6 and 2 SATA 3 interfaces
                    • fullsize PCI

                    Additionally to built my router I used:

                    • PicoPSU-80
                    • 120GB SSD Kingston disk
                    • M350 MINI-ITX case
                    • some cheap 60W power adapter

                    RAM configuration?

                    Do not be afraid to fail.

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                      TD22057
                      last edited by

                      @karaznie:

                      I live in europe, and here I bought this boar for about $80. Indeed I cannot find it on amercian amazon. It may be dedicated board for Europe. For this price You can actually buy zotac CI323 nano baroness with the same processor and Wi-FI. Others reporting on this forum sucess installing pfSense on this box. Box looks really cool. A drawback is You cannot expand zotac with PCI though.

                      Unfortunately, the zotac CI323 isn't available anywhere either (not for sale or out of stock).  So I'm back to looking at the similarly configured N3150 boxes from aliexpress.

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                        hardsense
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                        @TD22057:

                        @karaznie:

                        I live in europe, and here I bought this boar for about $80. Indeed I cannot find it on amercian amazon. It may be dedicated board for Europe. For this price You can actually buy zotac CI323 nano baroness with the same processor and Wi-FI. Others reporting on this forum sucess installing pfSense on this box. Box looks really cool. A drawback is You cannot expand zotac with PCI though.

                        Unfortunately, the zotac CI323 isn't available anywhere either (not for sale or out of stock).  So I'm back to looking at the similarly configured N3150 boxes from aliexpress.

                        http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0179S50UU/ref=twister_B01C9TKBO4?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

                        "Usually ships within 3 to 6 weeks." …. but it could be earlier than that based on my experience with Amazon FireTV purchase. Maybe 1 or 2 weeks times. You can try your luck if you're not urgent.

                        Just another 3150 pfsense board , check out the comments there :
                        http://www.amazon.com/Asus-Motherboard-Mini-DDR3-N3150I-C/dp/B0167OVET8/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1457922285&sr=1-1-fkmr0&keywords=asus+n3150+mobo

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                          TD22057
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                          @hardsense:

                          http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0179S50UU/ref=twister_B01C9TKBO4?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
                          "Usually ships within 3 to 6 weeks." …. but it could be earlier than that based on my experience with Amazon FireTV purchase. Maybe 1 or 2 weeks times. You can try your luck if you're not urgent.

                          Just another 3150 pfsense board , check out the comments there :
                          http://www.amazon.com/Asus-Motherboard-Mini-DDR3-N3150I-C/dp/B0167OVET8/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1457922285&sr=1-1-fkmr0&keywords=asus+n3150+mobo

                          Thanks for the links.  Here's another possible option for anyone else reading this who doesn't want to have to build anything:
                          http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Mini-pc-Windows-10-Intel-Celeron-N3150-quad-core-fanless-desktop-computer-4-USB-3-0/32615361176.html

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                            karaznie
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                            @Blade:

                            RAM configuration?

                            Cheapest (yet reliable) I could find :)

                            2xGOODRAM SO-DIMM DDR3 2GB 2048MB 1333MHz

                            4GB in two sockets total.

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                              hardsense
                              last edited by

                              @TD22057:

                              @hardsense:

                              http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0179S50UU/ref=twister_B01C9TKBO4?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
                              "Usually ships within 3 to 6 weeks." …. but it could be earlier than that based on my experience with Amazon FireTV purchase. Maybe 1 or 2 weeks times. You can try your luck if you're not urgent.

                              Just another 3150 pfsense board , check out the comments there :
                              http://www.amazon.com/Asus-Motherboard-Mini-DDR3-N3150I-C/dp/B0167OVET8/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1457922285&sr=1-1-fkmr0&keywords=asus+n3150+mobo

                              Thanks for the links.  Here's another possible option for anyone else reading this who doesn't want to have to build anything:
                              http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Mini-pc-Windows-10-Intel-Celeron-N3150-quad-core-fanless-desktop-computer-4-USB-3-0/32615361176.html

                              I checked as you suggested and I'm not sure about the quality and safety of those boxes. I know Gigabyte and Asus and I'm sure Netgate and SuperMicro are trusted by many vendors. So I will stick with Giagbyte and Asus and perhaps ZOTAC for the time being.

                              I want to see the proof,stress test of their hardware until I can trust because we will be running 24/7.
                              Don't you think so ?

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                                m.tusa23
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                                Hello,
                                thank you for sharing your experience. Also I have purchased this motherboard, but I'm having some difficulties, because I need to use 3 NICs and install it all in a 1U rack case, I used a riser card but the card that connect to the riser is not recognized … someone can give me some advice for risolver my problem.
                                Thank you all

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                                  alextz
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                                  Problems with this mainboard also here. I am using a PPPoe connection and after ~12h it starts to drop it and cannot reconnect back to it.

                                  https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php?topic=109145.0

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                                    Tarrandio
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                                    Thanks for sharing this experience.
                                    I was ready to order WAY more complicated components if I hadn't run into this lovely little piece.

                                    / Tarran

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