PfSense 2.3 new Traffic Graph doesn't include total Traffic in time period



  • hi,

    I loved the old RRD Graphs with the total amount of MB/GB or Packets per time period.
    could you please add again the total amount per period?

    regards angelo



  • @tohil:

    hi,

    I loved the old RRD Graphs with the total amount of MB/GB or Packets per time period.
    could you please add again the total amount per period?

    regards angelo

    Check menu: Status/Monitoring



  • @tohil:

    I loved the old RRD Graphs with the total amount of MB/GB

    +1  "throughput" (that was previously available in system tab) is no more available (neither in system or traffic or wherever dropdown box (there is no more tab)

    With this new graph interface, looking at both "on day" and "one week" graphs is not as easy as with RRD.
    On the other hand, we have now 2 axis but I still don't really understand if it really helps.

    For sure quickly browsing various graphs is now slower.

    @Koenig:

    Check menu: Status/Monitoring

    The point is not that graphs are not available but that some graphs are not.



  • @Koenig:

    @tohil:

    hi,

    I loved the old RRD Graphs with the total amount of MB/GB or Packets per time period.
    could you please add again the total amount per period?

    regards angelo

    Check menu: Status/Monitoring

    that's what he's talking about. new monitoring graphs don't have total transferred.

    old: http://i.imgur.com/eGHuUl1.png

    new: http://i.imgur.com/euxz5Ef.png

    I agree, it was extremely handy to have. Probably the only thing I miss in 2.3



  • @fohdeesha:

    @Koenig:

    @tohil:

    hi,

    I loved the old RRD Graphs with the total amount of MB/GB or Packets per time period.
    could you please add again the total amount per period?

    regards angelo

    Check menu: Status/Monitoring

    that's what he's talking about. new monitoring graphs don't have total transferred.

    old: http://i.imgur.com/eGHuUl1.png

    new: http://i.imgur.com/euxz5Ef.png

    I agree, it was extremely handy to have. Probably the only thing I miss in 2.3

    OK I see, there's the RRD Summary.

    But not the same time periods or as conclusive as the "old way"

    EDIT: My text ended up in the wrong place…



  • We're considering options for bringing back total traffic.



  • Assuming the average is precise and accurate enough, average * window = total



  • I'd like to have total traffic brought back as well so another vote for that feature to return.

    Lobo



  • The loss of all my total traffic historical data, and the fact this feature is no longer supported is a huge disappointment for me.

    I joined the forums to say this, so I hope this emphasizes my hope this feature will be returned.

    Thanks

    edit: installed the package called "RRD_Summary" this does show total data but doesn't graph it as far as I can tell.



  • +1

    spent a couple of hours searching for this info. I really hope the new graphs will get the "period totals" back, I otherwise love the new version style/usage.



  • Would also like the custom date/time range brought back instead of the limited choices. Makes it easy to fight with Comcast when they say I am using more bandwidth than I am actually using.



  • Please bring it back! 
    Was VERY useful and now completely gone.

    It was a very commonly replied upon report.
    Companies want to and expect to be able to look at traffic history and see how it has changed over days, weeks, months,  busy events etc. 
    It was the main selling point for a client I am working with now and we actually had to roll back to 2.2 for this reason.

    I really don't understand the mentality behind decisions to drop a feature like this that is so commonly used and demanded on gateway reports.

    Steve



  • I'm getting along with "monitoring for now as it has options to show time span. 
    I have not got my head around or figured out the "right graph" and "left graph" items.

    Only "left graph" appears to work or really do anything.

    Right graph just prints a line on the right side of the graph but shows no data.

    It's either complete inop or I have no clue how to use it.

    Also "graph type" is always "(disabled)". buts says "line" in the config field.



  • @N8LBV:

    Please bring it back! 
    Was VERY useful and now completely gone.

    It was a very commonly replied upon report.
    Companies want to and expect to be able to look at traffic history and see how it has changed over days, weeks, months,  busy events etc. 
    It was the main selling point for a client I am working with now and we actually had to roll back to 2.2 for this reason.

    I really don't understand the mentality behind decisions to drop a feature like this that is so commonly used and demanded on gateway reports.

    Steve

    +1

    Why was it removed? I don't understand  :o



  • Because it's a function of rrdtool graph, which has absurdly large dependencies in latest rrdtool. jdillard's working on a replacement with vnstat.



  • @cmb:

    Because it's a function of rrdtool graph, which has absurdly large dependencies in latest rrdtool. jdillard's working on a replacement with vnstat.

    That's good to hear  :D
    Just ordered a SG-4860 btw, looking forward to getting rid of my current power hungry and large computer for this beauty  ;D



  • Any chance update 2.3_1 includes the restoration of our beloved feature?



  • @cmb:

    Because it's a function of rrdtool graph, which has absurdly large dependencies in latest rrdtool. jdillard's working on a replacement with vnstat.

    Except that vnstat was also dropped in v2.3.

    The RRD Graphs were useful for a bunch of reasons:

    • Traffic per day / month / week / year
    • Being able to look and see how busy a link was without sitting on Status / Traffic Graph (which does not show history)
    • NNTP graphs showing jitter / offset

    I'm not pleased at all that RRD Graphs were dropped in 2.3.



  • While I appreciate the new design aspects, the old RRD graphs were a lot easier to access and read.

    Hope someone will create a package for legacy graphs.



  • new monitoring feature is useless for me
    plz bring back rrd graph or give any alternative for traffic summary
    so disapointed after upgrading to 2.3  :'(



  • @drzoidberg33:

    While I appreciate the new design aspects, the old RRD graphs were a lot easier to access and read.

    Hope someone will create a package for legacy graphs.

    I agree, the new graphs are a bit clunky. They are nicer looking and probably have a lot of potential, but I prefer the old graphs, they were easier to use, for me at least. It may be because I'm used to the old RRD graphs though.
    But the lack of total traffic info is quite annoying. That is the most important information for me.



  • They are aware everyone wants total tgraffic stats back, and have said they are working on it.

    What I tell those I support, is to pretend 2.3 is actually 3.0 and a full re-write.

    Thus, it will take time to get all of the features back in, so don't install until at least the first sp/point release. :) Because no one would install a ".0" release….

    That is really my only criticism of this process, many (maybe most) people assume that a .X release should be OK to install and won't completely change/break everything. In this case that was a wrong assumption.

    The level of change would have been more clear if it would have been 3.0 instead of 2.3...



  • I want to also add my few cents on this topic.
    I am also quite disappointed of not having anymore the possibility to check how much traffic was flowing during a specific period of time.
    New graphs are nice, but they are definitely not comparable with RRD.

    I hope that an alternative will be provided soon. I mean, this is something that you can find even of extremely cheap devices for home use. In offices is a huge loss to not have these info anymore  :-X



  • Like all of you, I'm also desperately hoping for daily total traffic over a period of time as well.  I have Uverse and even they have a usage meter, which is of questionable accuracy according to: http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r30773881-Usage-meter-is-now-live

    jdillard is suppose to bringing out an updated vnstat package for this function, hopefully in the v2.3.2 release.



  • @blewis:

    Like all of you, I'm also desperately hoping for daily total traffic over a period of time as well.  I have Uverse and even they have a usage meter, which is of questionable accuracy according to: http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r30773881-Usage-meter-is-now-live

    jdillard is suppose to bringing out an updated vnstat package for this function, hopefully in the v2.3.2 release.

    I am in the same boat. The rrd graph was great! Just updated to 2.3, it looks great!!!


  • Administrator

    Here is a preview (from a test VM so the traffic is not normal looking): https://i.imgur.com/GqvihFX.gifv

    All I should have left is getting the options in and out of the configuration. This is my first time doing that, so not sure how long that is going to take.



  • Thanks, nice work, looking forward to the update  ;D



  • Looks good. Is this meant to replace VNStat or the RRD graph functionality? Just trying to get an idea or where the requirements are coming from.

    Vidmo


  • Administrator

    It is vnStat, I just put a fancy front-end on it (using it's JSON output) and allow you to set it up without going to the CLI. It is basically a better version of the old vnstat2 package.

    It doesn't replace RRD, it just complements it in regards to bandwidth/traffic totals as a lot of people liked that functionality. It also stores the data in a way that is more accurate than RRD for historical data.

    The old RRD graphs had a totaling function in the graphing utility, but we cut the graphing utility out because it was going to double the total size of the pfSense image. Not everyone needs traffic totals though, so it is being left as an optional package instead of as part of base. I just felt traffic totals were a basic functionality that should be in pfSense and this was the path of least resistance. I also wanted to learn how to make a package so that I could be more useful in that regard in the future.

    Another thing that was lost when we cut out the rrdtool graphing was emailed reports with images. I'm not going to do it, but someone could in theory add vnStat images into the reporting package with vnstati.



  • Hi,

    Just curious if there has been any progress made on it.  The gif looks perfect!

    Thanks,
    Rich



  • @richtj99:

    Hi,

    Just curious if there has been any progress made on it.  The gif looks perfect!

    Thanks,
    Rich

    I second this!!



  • Not quite as nice as having all those graphs presentable as they were with RRD, but a damned sight better than what is here now.

    Heck if RRD is still even possible I'd prefer that as a downloadable package, unless this new tool can 1-up the old tools.  RRD wasn't always very accurate, especially with older data.  But at least is was something I could pull up and argue with the ISP when they pull some of the crazy stunts they do.


  • Administrator

    @richtj99:

    Hi,

    Just curious if there has been any progress made on it.  The gif looks perfect!

    Thanks,
    Rich

    It's closer: https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php?topic=109700.msg634458#msg634458



  • Has anyone else noticed that the "Last Month" traffic numbers under RRD Summary are an order of magnitude higher?

    I looked at my current month total yesterday (6/30) and it was ~ 1,200,000 MB
    Today (7/1) my last month total is ~ 13,028,404 MB!



  • Is there a way to get any traffic stats beyond current at the moment stats?

    I am looking to cut the cord with my cable company & am looking to stream a number of devices but want to make sure I can do it.  Just curious if we have any other update or another suggestion on how to check traffic.



  • Can we also add to save the current selections on the monitoring page?

    It is painful to return to the page and have to re-select all your options again.



  • Take a look over at the 2.3.2 forum, some good new stuff:https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php?topic=114753.msg637619#msg637619


  • Administrator

    @ronwbrown:

    Can we also add to save the current selections on the monitoring page?

    It is painful to return to the page and have to re-select all your options again.

    There is a 'Save as Defaults' under the Advanced section.



  • Hello, all.

    I'm just curious if the addition of 'RRD_Summary' and 'Status_Traffic_Totals' packages essentially closes this topic or is there a plan to bring this functionality back to native pfSense?

    Thanks,
    Brian



  • At least it worked.


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