@Bob-Dig said in Does TNSR support PPPOE client and UPNP service ?:
@blunden Here, Cable is not using it, *DSL is using it and with that, the same ISPs providing DSL will use it even for their Fiber.
I see. That certainly isn't the case here and not in any neighboring country where I happen to know people. That ISPs that have built their customer facing infrastructure around PPPoE continues to use it isn't that surprising, I guess.
Where is "here" btw?
@RobbieTT said in Does TNSR support PPPOE client and UPNP service ?:
@blunden
Why an exaggeration? There is no single internet provider in the US as large as the entirety of the UK, which has a state-regulated monopoly providing the bulk of fixed-line broadband and the infrastructure behind it. It uses PPPoE for residential and smaller-bandwidth business broadband via the plethora of ISPs delivering connectivity.
It is true that the US is over 4x more populous than the UK but the UK is not the only country in Europe and PPPoE is not constrained to the UK alone; or just Europe for that matter.
I dislike high-bandwidth PPPoE connections as much as the next guy but to deny its relevance is rather narrow-minded.
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Fair point about the size of the UK Openreach in terms of total subscribers compared to single US ISPs.
I know that it's common in the UK and a few other countries, but my understanding is that ISPs in most EU countries generally don't use it. I guess I interpreted "common in the EU" to mean "lots of ISPs in many EU countries use it". Based on the total number of subscribers, I suppose it might be somewhat common though.
I didn't deny it's relevance or that it shouldn't be implemented, I just pointed out that there is some fairly basic functionality that likely affects an even larger number of residential customers that haven't been added either, despite VPP support existing for 5 years now. In other words, I downplayed its relevance a little bit but still said that features (such as PPPoE and the others I mentioned) needed by residential customers should get some attention now too, since the fact that they sell router hardware with TNSR preinstalled to regular consumers now mean that the number of licensed TNSR instances used in a residential context is likely to grow. After all, multiple countries now offer broadband services where PfSense is simply far too slow, so I imagine interest in TNSR to grow in this sector.
If TNSR had been open source, I'm sure someone would've implemented all of these features already. I understand that open sourcing it probably wouldn't work with the intended licensing model and enterprise focus though.