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    PfSense changes subnet in the nat rules!!

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      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator @Gianluca 0
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      @gianluca-0 said in PfSense changes subnet in the nat rules!!:

      In the configuration history I can't see anything strange, there are only the changes I have made.

      So where are you seeing these rogue changes happen?

      Try to spin up a 2.5.2 VM and replicate it there if you can.

      Steve

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        @stephenw10 It all started when I changed some Nat rules which have TCP / UDP protocols with TCP. Pfsense changed all other rules with TCP / UDP from single host in destination address to network with subnet / 31. When I have some time I will install a VM with Pfsense version 2.5.2 and restore my configuration and try to replicate the problems.

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          What I mean is did you see those changes to all the other rules reflected in the config diffs. Or could it be a display issue?
          And you saw this on other NAT rules? I assume port forwards? Or the associated firewall rules?

          Steve

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            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @stephenw10
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            This makes no sense at all.. And sure can not duplicate the problem in 2.5.2 per how I am understanding what your saying the problem is.

            I created 3 test rules all using tcp/udp.. You can see the gui rules, and what the actual rules are. I then changed one of those rules to tcp only.. All looks normal to me..

            test.jpg

            Am I not understanding what your problem is - screenshots showing exactly what your saying the problem is would be most helpful.

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              Gianluca 0 @stephenw10
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              @stephenw10 I haven't checked yet inside the diffs configuration, but I presume that inside I can see the changes. And yes, the issue is reflected in other Nat rules not connected with that I changed.

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                Gianluca 0 @johnpoz
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                @johnpoz you did this in a clean install, we are using the same setup we started about 5 years ago.

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                  Gianluca 0 @johnpoz
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                  @johnpoz try to see inside the rules in network, and look if it has been changed to /31. In the list of Nat Rules is not always showing the subnet changed.

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                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                    Mmm, I can't replicate it either.

                    That is what you're doing though? On your system making that change to one port forward changed all of them and set the destination to /31?

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                      Gianluca 0 @stephenw10
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                      @stephenw10 in all rules that have TCP/UDP, Pfsense change only the destination network subnet to /31, I repeat, previously configured has singles host, to network address /31.

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                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                        If it's actually set to a /31 subnet it will show as that there:

                        Screenshot from 2021-09-28 14-15-02.png

                        Are you sure this is not your browser auto-fill setting some fields when you edit the rule?

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                          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Gianluca 0
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                          @gianluca-0 said in PfSense changes subnet in the nat rules!!:

                          try to see inside the rules in network

                          Those are the wan rules.. Here our the nat rules

                          natrules.jpg

                          Yes this is a clean install of 2.5.2.. Sorry don't have a 5 year old test setup that I have kept updating over the years ;) heheh

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                            @stephenw10 yes :) I'm sure..I understand what you're meaning. And autofill can not change from single host to network address and also change subnet to /31 (I think).

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                              Gianluca 0 @Gianluca 0
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                              anyway, I need some time to build a new Pfsense virtual machine and restore my configuration, so see what happened. Pfsense is not owned by us, we have a manager user but we cannot log in with ssh for example.

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                                There is something slightly odd there in 2.5.2/21.05.1. If you set the destination as network the list of subnet sizes includes /32 and also /31 twice!

                                nat-rule-subnet.jpg

                                However selecting them doesn't seen to cause a problem. And it's fixed in 2.6/21.09.

                                Steve

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                                  Gianluca 0 @stephenw10
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                                  @stephenw10 but that Nat rules are single hosts, so / 32 is implied.

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                                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                    Exactly. If you set /32 there it just goes back to single host. It should not appear in that list as a 'network' but selecting it does no harm.

                                    Steve

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                                      @stephenw10 said in PfSense changes subnet in the nat rules!!:

                                      If you set the destination as network the list of subnet sizes includes /32 and also /31 twice!

                                      Where are you seeing this? Looking on nat and firewalls - I do not see that

                                      natfirewall.jpg

                                      Oh I see it on 21.05.1 but not my test 2.5.2 box..

                                      But only in the nat, not firewall rules..

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                                        Yeah, I was testing in 21.05.1. I assume it would affect both. Hmm.

                                        Either way it's fixed in 21.09 so...

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                                          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @stephenw10
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                                          @stephenw10 said in PfSense changes subnet in the nat rules!!:

                                          Either way it's fixed in 21.09 so...

                                          Which should be released any day ;) Since only a couple of days left in September (Month 9) hehehe..

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