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    • stephenw10S
      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator @kiokoman
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      Yes, it reads in milliseconds but that can get confusing when is shows a value like 0.001 (1μs).

      Values in microseconds are what you should expect if PPS is working.

      Less than 1μs is impressive. I generally see between 1-2μs here.

      Steve

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        q54e3w @kiokoman
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        @kiokoman said in Building a Stratum 1 NTP Server Using Raspberry Pi:

        and it drift up and down very mutch during the day compare to the adafruit

        Is your device thermally stable, without some kind of TCXO its likely drift. I see fluctuations around 11am to 4pm as the sun hits the room where my timing hardware is located. Temperature corrected devices are unaffected.

        Also, different drivers are very likely to introduce different levels of performance so try and ensure you are using same drivers (type 22 PPS vs SHM type 28 etc).

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        • kiokomanK
          kiokoman LAYER 8 @q54e3w
          last edited by kiokoman

          yeah, i'm using only type 20 and type 22
          but i think i was finally able to find a configuration that suits it

          http://www.philrandal.co.uk/blog/archives/04-01-2019_04-30-2019.html
          with some minor adjustment

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            kiokoman LAYER 8 @tman222
            last edited by kiokoman

            @tman222

            I'll answer your question about nohz
            it does not work on raspberry pi 4 + raspbian
            the kernel isn't configured to allows the nohz parameter to work
            also, I found that you can only use
            flag 3 0 (use the ntpd clock discipline)
            and not
            flag 3 1 (use the kernel discipline)
            for PPS
            if you try to use flag 3 1 you see in the syslog this:

            refclock_params: time_pps_kcbind: Operation not supported
            

            this is because the kernel is compiled without CONFIG_NTP_PPS

            Immagine.jpg

            obviusly
            as a good nerd I recompiled ... 😑

            this is ublox now

            server 127.127.20.0 mode 89 iburst prefer minpoll 2 maxpoll 4
            fudge 127.127.20.0 flag1 1 flag3 1 time1 0.0 time2 0.025 refid GPS
            
            pi@raspberrypi3:~/linux $ uname -a
            Linux raspberrypi3 4.19.118-v7lntp+ #1 SMP Fri Dec 11 14:42:08 CET 2020 armv7l GNU/Linux
            
            pi@raspberrypi3:~/linux $ ntpq -crv -pn
            status=041d leap_none, sync_uhf_radio, 1 event, kern,
            version="ntpd ntpsec-1.1.3 2019-11-18T06:04:00Z", processor="armv7l", system=" Linux/4.19.118-v7lntp+", leap=00, stratum=1, precision=-20, rootdelay=0.0, rootdisp=2.18, refid=GPS, reftime=e37e600c.8bd6769d 2020-12-11T21:15:56.546Z,
            clock=e37e6018.d0a57250 2020-12-11T21:16:08.815Z, peer=11020, tc=4, mintc=0, offset=7.8e-05, frequency=-18.907623, sys_jitter=0.000277, clk_jitter=0.000728, clk_wander=0.001816, tai=37, leapsec="2017-01-01T00:00Z",
            expire="2021-06-28T00:00Z"
                 remote                                   refid      st t when poll reach   delay   offset   jitter
            =======================================================================================================
            oNMEA(0)                                 .GPS.            0 l   12   16  377   0.0000   0.0001   0.0003
            

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                tman222
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                Hi all -

                Wanted to follow up on this thread as I recently acquired a Stratum 1 NTP server for my network (LeoNTP - very cool little device). Currently, I have it setup as the only NTP time server on pfSense (i.e. no other servers are configured). Is this an acceptable setup, or should I be adding a few additional public Stratum 1 servers as a sanity check, and set the LeoNTP device as the preferred server? I realize with just one server I don't have any redundancy, but is that the only main drawback? Thanks in advance!

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                • kiokomanK
                  kiokoman LAYER 8 @tman222
                  last edited by kiokoman

                  @tman222
                  if I remember correctly you need at least 3 good ntp server on the list to see if the leontp is working correctly
                  without any reference you don't know if the time is correct

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                    q54e3w @tman222
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                    @tman222 I run a few Pi based GPS devices that don't offer the same accuracy, and a few external sources for backup. The LeoNTP takes precedence as primary source of time due to its accuracy.

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                      tman222
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                      Thanks @kiokoman and @q54e3w, I really appreciate the help and advice. Do either of you use the "prefer" keyword on your local NTP server(s), or do you leave the server choice solely to the selection algorithm? Thanks again.

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                      • kiokomanK
                        kiokoman LAYER 8 @tman222
                        last edited by

                        @tman222
                        this is my config for the ublox

                        server 127.127.20.0 mode 89 iburst prefer minpoll 2 maxpoll 4
                        fudge 127.127.20.0 flag1 1 flag3 1 time1 0.0 time2 0.025 refid GPS
                        
                        tos mindist 0.060
                        
                        server 192.168.10.200
                        server 151.3.106.211
                        server ntp1.inrim.it
                        server ntp2.inrim.it
                        pool 0.it.pool.ntp.org
                        pool 1.it.pool.ntp.org
                        

                        this is the results

                        remote                          refid      st t when poll reach   delay   offset   jitter
                        ========================================================================================
                        oNMEA(0)                        .GPS.            0 l   11   16  377   0.0000   0.0002   0.0003
                        +192.168.10.200                 .GPS.            1 u   42   64  377   0.0996  -0.0002   0.0149
                        +151.3.106.211                  .GPS.            1 u   40   64  377  24.2144   0.1478   0.9674
                        -193.204.114.232                .CTD.            1 u   59   64  377  25.2698  -4.7052   0.3729
                        +193.204.114.233                .CTD.            1 u   49   64  377  12.5229   0.0942   0.3967
                         0.it.pool.ntp.org              .POOL.          16 p    -  256    0   0.0000   0.0000   0.0010
                         1.it.pool.ntp.org              .POOL.          16 p    -  256    0   0.0000   0.0000   0.0010
                        -37.247.53.178                  193.204.114.233  2 u   57   64  377  11.9465   1.0424   0.6543
                        -162.159.200.123                10.20.14.167     3 u   37   64  377  25.2151   0.8878   0.4707
                        +212.45.144.206                 193.204.114.232  2 u    9   64  377  10.5258   0.5104   0.3046
                        

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