Questions about my ideal setup
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It can route at >1Gbps (L3 forwarding) but it can't firewall/NAT at that rate.
At 60Mbps it would of course have no problem!
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@stephenw10 said in Questions about my ideal setup:
It can route at >1Gbps (L3 forwarding) but it can't firewall/NAT at that rate.
At 60Mbps it would of course have no problem!
Anyway after reading all posts I more than sure that fanless top-box with Intel / ARM 64bit CPU and 16Gb RAM would be great for start, or just buy one from Netgate (for example Netgate 2100 Max) for USD$345+shipping.
You need something to start with.
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That Qotom mini PC I bought (see sig) should do the trick. I've already downloaded over 900 Mb with it.
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True.
I have the Qotom, so far so good: i5, 8GB RAM and 120GB SSD.
On Virgin media I get on my official 200-20 connection: sometimes 230-22 via Ethernet.
AP: Asus RTAX 88U. Across my semi detached house I get 220-21.
Running Suricata as an add on and CPU barely touches 1%.Community fibre are offering me 3Giga-bit for £99. But all my hardware is "only" 1 Gig-bit.
If anyone wants a good value machine that will handle everything up to 1 gig-bit, then Qotom is the way to go. Small and power efficient. Yes I use active cooling and even during rare hot summers in London its CPU rarely goes above 45 Celsius.
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@waqar-uk Nice setup, but it's gonna consume a lot of energy...
At this point, it's simple X86 HW, I just noticed, I'm better of building something by myself, I just need to be careful with the compatibility of the network card and try to find a case that has at least 4 ethernet ports :D
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@waqar-uk said in Questions about my ideal setup:
Community fibre are offering me 3Giga-bit for £99
Grr. I'll have probably retired by the time fibre reaches my part of London.
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I'm browsing around, but it's a bit difficult to find good hardware
, used or new...I live in UK, so the import tax from EU is something I need to avoid, I need to buy in UK but it's not that easy...
I found this hardware, am I on the right way?
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ASRock H310CM-HDV, 1151, MATX, 2 DDR4, DVI, VGA, HDMI, GB LANASRock H310CM-HDV, 1151, MATX, 2 DDR4, DVI, VGA, HDMI, GB LAN
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Corsair CMK8GX4M1A2400C16 Vengeance LPX 8 GB (1 x 8 GB) DDR4 2400 MHz C16 XMP 2.0 High Performance Desktop Memory Module, BlackCorsair CMK8GX4M1A2400C16 Vengeance LPX 8 GB (1 x 8 GB) DDR4 2400 MHz C16 XMP 2.0 High Performance Desktop Memory Module, Black
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Intel Core i5-9400F 2.9GHz LGA1151 9M Cache BOX CPUIntel Core i5-9400F 2.9GHz LGA1151 9M Cache BOX CPU (it may be overkill and TDP too high, I'll try to find a less performance CPU, something like 35W max)
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CiT MTX008B PC Case, Mini ITX, CE/EMI Approved Design, Game Max TFX 300W Power Supply Included, 80mm Front Fan Included, Designed With The Professional In Mind | Black
Looking at the PfSense doc, it's supported hardware so far...
It's already 290 pounds, maybe other 30 for the power supply and I'm done. I wish.... :D
I miss the network card, probably the most expensive component, from where do I start??At this point, I ask myself why don't buy a Netgate box, like Netgate 2100... Looking at the performance declared, it's overkill for me...
Or do you want to tell me that plugins etc are gonna put down such box around 100 Mbit??
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You should not use Snort and Suricata at the same time. They do the same task.
The 2100 would have no problems running either at 100Mbps.
Steve
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@jt40 said in Questions about my ideal setup:
I'll use SNORT and Surricata minimum...
For what You definitely need SNORT / Suricata ?
This systems mostly used in office / enterprise environment and needs.
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@jt40 said in Questions about my ideal setup:
At this point, I ask myself why don't buy a Netgate box, like Netgate 2100... Looking at the performance declared, it's overkill for me...
According to what most users wrote here on forum, they quickly goes from “this is overkill to my needs” to “why I not spend a +$80 at beginning to avoid some problems / impossibilities now” :)
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https://www.asrock.com/mb/intel/h310cm-hdv/index.asp#Specification
ASRock H310CM-HDVLAN
1 x Realtek RTL8111HSo you need a Intel based Ethernet card.
I do not think my setup consumes a large amount of electricity,
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@sergei_shablovsky said in Questions about my ideal setup:
@jt40 said in Questions about my ideal setup:
At this point, I ask myself why don't buy a Netgate box, like Netgate 2100... Looking at the performance declared, it's overkill for me...
According to what most users wrote here on forum, they quickly goes from “this is overkill to my needs” to “why I not spend a +$80 at beginning to avoid some problems / impossibilities now” :)
Ahaaha, that's how it goes :D
Before this post, I could not think to spend so much for a router...
Apparently, I have no choice, the minimum is 280 pounds, now the choice is on Netgate or a custom build.
What I can say about the custom build is that it's much more powerful than Netgate, which is probably what I need in the future (not tomorrow morning), plus I can also re-use that machine to do something else if I need to, which is great, it's X86 powerful HW in the end.Components have been published above, I just need some recommendation on the network card.
Good ones are around 150 pounds, but I really don't know which one to pick up. -
I found this one: Intel X710-da2 , it seems enough for me, I would love to have more ports but it's very difficult to find network cards that have more than 2 ports for my wallet :D .
Based on the recommendations written here: https://www.servethehome.com/buyers-guides/top-hardware-components-pfsense-appliances/top-picks-pfsense-network-cards-nics/
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@jt40 said in Questions about my ideal setup:
@sergei_shablovsky said in Questions about my ideal setup:
@jt40 said in Questions about my ideal setup:
At this point, I ask myself why don't buy a Netgate box, like Netgate 2100... Looking at the performance declared, it's overkill for me...
According to what most users wrote here on forum, they quickly goes from “this is overkill to my needs” to “why I not spend a +$80 at beginning to avoid some problems / impossibilities now” :)
Ahaaha, that's how it goes :D
Before this post, I could not think to spend so much for a router...
;)
Apparently, I have no choice, the minimum is 280 pounds, now the choice is on Netgate or a custom build.
What I can say about the custom build is that it's much more powerful than Netgate, which is probably what I need in the future (not tomorrow morning), plus I can also re-use that machine to do something else if I need to, which is great, it's X86 powerful HW in the end.Try to look at the NetGear 2100 Max from that point of view:
- time running fast and computers/parts price goes down quickly. So no reason long-term investing in HW in SOHO segment;
- much less power consumption (You point that electricity bills is important to You, because for example even old server with 2 x ~550W PSU (minimum for any rack server) eating ~ 250-300W / h, 24/7/365);
- stable and proven by NetGate configuration;
- not need to spend a months on NIC tuning, OS tuning, etc... (time = money, or just pay more attention to family;)
Components have been published above, I just need some recommendation on the network card.
Good ones are around 150 pounds, but I really don't know which one to pick up.Better for this search on pfSense original doc, FreeBSD user forum, and on this user forum.
Pick up Intel, in Your usecase:
- 1Gb per port;
- 2-port NIC card for uplinks, and 2/4-port NIC card for LANs;
And care about UPS: online interactive models from Liebert, Eaton, Schneider are best choice.
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For $250 at Amazon you can get a Qotom Q330G4 with 8G Ram, a 16G SSD, I3 AES-NI Crypto capable, 4 NICs, and HDMI video out. I have had this for over a year and it works great.
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@jt40 said in Questions about my ideal setup:
I found this one: Intel X710-da2 , it seems enough for me, I would love to have more ports but it's very difficult to find network cards that have more than 2 ports for my wallet :D .
Fujitsu and IBM have Intel i350 based (Fujitsu D2745 Quad Port), they both are cheap on eBay.
Please take a time to read Original Intel EXPI9404PTG2L20 EXPI9404PT PRO/1000 PT vs Fujitsu PRO/1000 PT Quad Port Gigabit Network Card PCI-E D2745-A11 low profile.
Based on the recommendations written here: https://www.servethehome.com/buyers-guides/top-hardware-components-pfsense-appliances/top-picks-pfsense-network-cards-nics/
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@slimypizza if I find any benchmark that can prove it...
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@sergei_shablovsky said in Questions about my ideal setup:
@jt40 said in Questions about my ideal setup:
I found this one: Intel X710-da2 , it seems enough for me, I would love to have more ports but it's very difficult to find network cards that have more than 2 ports for my wallet :D .
Fujitsu have Intel i350 based
Based on the recommendations written here: https://www.servethehome.com/buyers-guides/top-hardware-components-pfsense-appliances/top-picks-pfsense-network-cards-nics/
Why did you mention Fujitsu?
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@jt40 said in Questions about my ideal setup:
@sergei_shablovsky said in Questions about my ideal setup:
@jt40 said in Questions about my ideal setup:
I found this one: Intel X710-da2 , it seems enough for me, I would love to have more ports but it's very difficult to find network cards that have more than 2 ports for my wallet :D .
Fujitsu have Intel i350 based
Why did you mention Fujitsu?
Stable work, robust, what’s else? ;) (read link above)
But yes, that network card is enough, it's 1Gbit on both ports if I'm not wrong.
I told You more: 4 x 1Gb port Fujitsu D2745 Quad Port cost $27-50 on eBay ;) Enjoy!
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@sergei_shablovsky I swear I didn't see that :D
Thanks a lot, but now I'm in front of another problem.
It's almost impossible to find a mini ITX PSU on the UK soil... Or at least something good quality.
Also outside it's quite rare...I think that I need to compromise from outside anyway, but at this point, why not this one alredy bundled, it's so cool all together already :D : https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003420929961.html?algo_pvid=6931b44c-ab16-4947-a5ba-0e605bdf7abd&algo_exp_id=6931b44c-ab16-4947-a5ba-0e605bdf7abd-43&pdp_ext_f=%7B%22sku_id%22%3A%2212000025713946221%22%7D
I checked the network card, it seems good, not the best though.
The model with I7 6500U and 16GB of RAM will cost me 300 without import tax, tax should not be much.Reason why I like it it's because it's fanless, very important to avoid bad smell and noise in the house, plus it's X86 which could serve some other purpose.
