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      If there is something specifically in the route that traffic is taking that throttling it then routing if over a VPN will likely change that route and might allow full speed repeatedly. It would at least prove the routing issue theory.

      I have an OpenVPN tunnel setup to an instance in GCP for that purpose. But almost anywhere would change the route to test it.

      Steve

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        @stephenw10 said in VERY slow System Update:

        If there is something specifically in the route that traffic is taking that throttling it then routing if over a VPN will likely change that route and might allow full speed repeatedly. It would at least prove the routing issue theory.

        I have an OpenVPN tunnel setup to an instance in GCP for that purpose. But almost anywhere would change the route to test it.

        Thank You for all help here, Stephen!

        Task SOLVED, due the source of this sow pfSense update was in speed/control settings for NIC's interface: need to be changed from 100TX full-duplex to 100TX (mean 100TX half-duplex).
        After this speed of update come from fixed 16,4k to 1,5-2,5M.

        I do not know why *the exactly pfSense updates are so slow and no other netflow affected”, but anyway, this certain issue closed and finding the source of problem come to another level, please see Errors In, but no Errors Out and No Collisions on both WAN.

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          Sergei_Shablovsky @Sergei_Shablovsky
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          @sergei_shablovsky said in [SOLVED] - VERY slow System Update:

          [UPDATE]
          Today I have a little bit more time to make some experiments. And found that the SLOW speed only for 2nd, 3rd, and down the list .pkg files, but FIRST FILE ALWAYS DOWNLOADING AT FULL AVAILABLE BANDWITH. (i.e. from 24 to 80MB/s).q

          Need to note about this “full speed” I make wrong conclusion: the speed on screen are just measured from already readed cache, so extremely hi-speed to view possible, like 1,200Mb on 100M physical connection & port speed. ;)
          But the real speed are with the same limitation 16,4kBs.

          I make some extra experiments on this server:
          trying to download the 420Mb full pfSense install by fetch

          fetch -v -o /dev/null https://snapshots.netgate.com/amd64/pfSense_master/installer/pfSense-CE-memstick-2.6.0-DEVELOPMENT-amd64-latest.img.gz
          

          The speed and ETA on screen was:

          6770 Bps 18h08m
          

          I conclude this speed are max per one connect from Netgate hosting provider.

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            @sergei_shablovsky said in [SOLVED] - VERY slow System Update:

            I conclude this speed are max per one connect from Netgate hosting provider.

            Not true at all.. Maybe from your ISP and peering issue to there.. But its clearly not a "netgate" connection or server issue.

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              @johnpoz said in [SOLVED] - VERY slow System Update:

              @sergei_shablovsky said in [SOLVED] - VERY slow System Update:

              I conclude this speed are max per one connect from Netgate hosting provider.

              Not true at all.. Maybe from your ISP and peering issue to there.. But its clearly not a "netgate" connection or server issue.

              download.jpg

              I also love Netgate ;)
              And really thankful for their support the pfSense's User Community.

              But as I wrote before in this tread (and other see Errors In, but no Errors Out and No Collisions on both WAN), the iperf3 to different geographic servers (USA, UK, France, HonKong, Latvia, ...) in different regions give me 70-88Mb/s on 100M physical connection.
              The SAME ISP and the SAME physical connection.

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                @sergei_shablovsky said in [SOLVED] - VERY slow System Update:

                the iperf3 to different geographic servers (USA, UK, France, HonKong, Latvia, ...)

                How does that have anything to do with downloading from the netgate servers?

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                  Sergei_Shablovsky @johnpoz
                  last edited by Sergei_Shablovsky

                  @johnpoz said in [SOLVED] - VERY slow System Update:

                  How does that have anything to do with downloading from the netgate servers?

                  Shaping on some AS.

                  Because in fact iperf3 give me ~80Mb/s worldwide, but fetch from Netgate server - only 16.4kB/s on same physical connection.

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                    @sergei_shablovsky

                    Downloaded this one, and got around 2.5 MB/s
                    2ac0d823-0673-4909-916b-5578e874f24a-image.png

                    https://snapshots.pfsense.org/amd64/pfSense_master/installer/pfSense-CE-2.6.0-DEVELOPMENT-amd64-20211104-0500.iso.gz

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                      @ciscox said in [SOLVED] - VERY slow System Update:

                      @sergei_shablovsky

                      Downloaded this one, and got around 2.5 MB/s
                      2ac0d823-0673-4909-916b-5578e874f24a-image.png

                      https://snapshots.pfsense.org/amd64/pfSense_master/installer/pfSense-CE-2.6.0-DEVELOPMENT-amd64-20211104-0500.iso.gz

                      Slowly we collecting pfSense speed on images download worldwide ;)

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                        @stephenw10 said in [SOLVED] - VERY slow System Update:

                        there is something specifically in the route that traffic is taking that throttling

                        That’s what about this post ;)
                        Even on clean pfSense installation (no any rules, nothing) on that particular machine

                        pkg upgrade
                        

                        or

                        pkg update
                        

                        where fetch command used

                        give me 16,4KB/s ;)

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                          @sergei_shablovsky

                          On an old pfSense 1.x - and upgraded gradually to 2.5.2 CE - so probably not clean at all :

                          63629071-3f6f-4c9b-906f-f08f5910ed63-image.png

                          20Mbits is my WAN-down.

                          No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                          Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                            @gertjan said in VERY slow System Update:

                            @sergei_shablovsky

                            On an old pfSense 1.x - and upgraded gradually to 2.5.2 CE - so probably not clean at all :

                            63629071-3f6f-4c9b-906f-f08f5910ed63-image.png

                            20Mbits is my WAN-down.

                            Thank You!
                            Is this graph only for fetch image from Netgate server (I mean dev version, nor mirrors in US and other countries) ?

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                              The answer is : no.
                              My iPhone also decides to update itself to 15.1 (2 GB download) and the rest of the companies network was also actif.

                              I also use an IPv6 connection, that tunnel IPv4 packets out over the WAN with IPv6 traffic in it. So my IPv6 goes over the IPv4 WAN (technically, I have a double WAN setup).

                              I've shut down our main switch, so I was using the only PC on the network :
                              Test again :

                              [2.5.2-RELEASE][admin@pfsense.my-local-network.net]/root: fetch -v -o /dev/null https://snapshots.netgate.com/amd64/pfSense_master/installer/pfSense-CE-memstick-2.6.0-DEVELOPMENT-amd64-latest.img.gz
                              resolving server address: snapshots.netgate.com:443
                              SSL options: 82004854
                              Peer verification enabled
                              Using CA cert file: /usr/local/etc/ssl/cert.pem
                              Verify hostname
                              TLSv1.2 connection established using ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384
                              Certificate subject: /CN=*.netgate.com
                              Certificate issuer: /C=GB/ST=Greater Manchester/L=Salford/O=Sectigo Limited/CN=Sectigo RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA
                              requesting https://snapshots.netgate.com/amd64/pfSense_master/installer/pfSense-CE-memstick-2.6.0-DEVELOPMENT-amd64-latest.img.gz
                              remote size / mtime: 439979895 / 1636700812
                              /dev/null                                              419 MB 1868 kBps 03m50s
                              

                              That is close to 19 Mbits / sec, my ADSL down bandwidth.

                              It was using IPv4 - as IPv6 (ipv6.he.net) would be slower for me.

                              No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                              Edit : and where are the logs ??

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