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    Have I set this up right or am I being stupid?

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    • F022YF Offline
      F022Y @stephenw10
      last edited by F022Y

      @stephenw10 The gateway changes between 2, 244 and 243. 244 seems to never respond yet 243 does. My ISP has advised these are gateways to their network not the internet breakout.

      I never actually set the gateway it appears to be picked up from PPPoE.

      I've added as you suggest and will see what happens.

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      • stephenw10S Offline
        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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        Yeah, the ISPs gateway does not have to respond to ping. My own connections, with BT, do not. Setting an external monitor gives better data anyway.

        The gateway should only ever change between PPPoE sessions. If you are seeing it change that implies the PPP session is bouncing which would definitely break open connections.

        Steve

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        • F022YF Offline
          F022Y @stephenw10
          last edited by F022Y

          @stephenw10 Well I'll run it like this and see what happens. The missus plays Sea of Thieves and i don't think i can take anymore "IT'S DONE IT AGAIN!!" conversations lol.

          We do have an AltNet threating to install symmetric 1Gbps fibre which would be a godsend for the ISOs i have to send around and means i can drop a point of failure (the Vigor166) out of the network loop.

          As an aside this is what my TBB quality check looks like when pfsense shows the 244 gateway.
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          That to me looks like congestion but my ISP assures me that is just TBB just misreporting.

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          • stephenw10S Offline
            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
            last edited by

            Are you on g.fast? Is that an imported V166? When I was looking into this (which was a while back!) Draytek hadn't started selling those in the UK yet.

            Yeah that graph looks bad. See what the pfSense monitoring graphs look like against 8.8.8.8 after a while. I wouldn't really expect any packet loss unless you're filling the WAN entirely.

            Steve

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            • F022YF Offline
              F022Y @stephenw10
              last edited by

              @stephenw10 No not on g.fast and i bought it in the UK

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              • stephenw10S Offline
                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator @F022Y
                last edited by

                Mmm, interesting. Let's see what pfSense shows against 8.8.8.8 then.

                This is what my WANs look like over 2 days:

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                0% loss on both and minimal latency change. WAN is standard FTTC VDSL, WAN2 is g.fast.
                That's monitoring against 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4.

                Steve

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                • F022YF Offline
                  F022Y @stephenw10
                  last edited by

                  @stephenw10 Where is that graph hiding? I'm still getting used to the interface

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                  • stephenw10S Offline
                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                    last edited by

                    In Status > Monitoring. Hit the 'wrench' icon to configure the graph.

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                    • F022YF Offline
                      F022Y @stephenw10
                      last edited by

                      @stephenw10 Thank you again for your help, i'll report back in a few days :)

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                      • F022YF Offline
                        F022Y @F022Y
                        last edited by

                        So ran it with your suggested change for 2 days.

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                        That is just a 80/20 FTTC connection but i think i have been banded as my Draytek show interleaving on the down stream.

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                        Hopefully DLM will kick in after a few days and sort it out.

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                        • stephenw10S Offline
                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                          last edited by

                          If you enable the WAN traffic graph on the other axis you can check to see if you were moving a lot of traffic when you saw the packet loss and latency. I don't really expect to see any loss.

                          I still use an old HG612 there and my line looks similar:

                          # xdslcmd info --state --stats
                          xdslcmd: ADSL driver and PHY status
                          Status: Showtime
                          Retrain Reason:	0
                          Last initialization procedure status:	0
                          Max:	Upstream rate = 26292 Kbps, Downstream rate = 73580 Kbps
                          Bearer:	0, Upstream rate = 19999 Kbps, Downstream rate = 66999 Kbps
                          Bearer:	1, Upstream rate = 0 Kbps, Downstream rate = 0 Kbps
                          Link Power State:	L0
                          Mode:			VDSL2 Annex B
                          VDSL2 Profile:		Profile 17a
                          TPS-TC:			PTM Mode(0x0)
                          Trellis:		U:ON /D:ON
                          Line Status:		No Defect
                          Training Status:	Showtime
                          		Down		Up
                          SNR (dB):	 8.1		 15.3
                          Attn(dB):	 13.6		 0.0
                          Pwr(dBm):	 14.0		 3.0
                          
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                          • F022YF Offline
                            F022Y @stephenw10
                            last edited by

                            @stephenw10 I see a few spikes (I expect steam updating)

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                            • F022YF Offline
                              F022Y
                              last edited by

                              Sorry for the delayed response been away for work.

                              It appears whatever was the cause has gone. Been over a week and no connection drops.

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                              • stephenw10S Offline
                                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                last edited by

                                Nice, something upstream then. Good result. 👍

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                                • F022YF Offline
                                  F022Y
                                  last edited by

                                  @stephenw10 Afraid to say about 10:30am the internet died. This was followed by the usual unimpressed look from the wife as she was knee deep the the latest season of the witcher.

                                  From the pfsense dashboard the WAN interface shows down

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                                  I can connect to the web GUI of the modem and that looks good.

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                                  From here i've done the usual tests.

                                  VDSL Status
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                                  ping and nslookup from desktop
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                                  DNS lookup from pfsense
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                                  Monitoring from pfsense
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                                  Then I tried to even force it
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                                  Ultimately I went to the logs.
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                                  I rebooted pfsense, nothing. Rebooted the Draytek Vigor 166 modem and it came back to life. I'm kinda stumped at this point so going to ask Draytek support incase i've missed some sort of logging their box does but if you guys see anything i've missed please let me know.

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                                  • stephenw10S Offline
                                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                    last edited by

                                    Hmm, does it comes back up if you only reboot pfSense and not the modem?

                                    You can see in the logs that it is seeing at least some response from Vodaphone's servers so the connection is making it that far.

                                    If you manually close the connection while it is working correctly and then try to reconnect does it fail?

                                    Steve

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                                    • F022YF Offline
                                      F022Y @stephenw10
                                      last edited by

                                      @stephenw10 Thanks for the response on a sunday, if i just reboot the pfsense VM the connection is still down which is why I may be leaning towards the modem now and have raised a support case with Draytek.

                                      I'll try killing the connection later on today, I dare not get between her and Henry Cavill lol

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                                      • stephenw10S Offline
                                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                        last edited by

                                        Ha, yeah best avoid that!

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                                        • F022YF Offline
                                          F022Y @stephenw10
                                          last edited by

                                          @stephenw10 So from the status > interfaces section i downed the connection waited 10 seconds (why is it always 10 seconds in IT) then reconnected. Worked fine.

                                          Just waiting on Draytek now.

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                                          • stephenw10S Offline
                                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                            last edited by

                                            Yeah, that seems to rule out some of the PPP issues I've seen in the past.

                                            I guess you could try just rebooting the modem, that would seem to confirm it if it comes back up without doing anything in pfSense.

                                            Steve

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