22.01 ETA still holding up?

[johnpoz]

@beachbum2021 what feature?

https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/releases/22-01_2-6-0.html

Where did you see talk of some analytics feature?

[mcury]

@johnpoz said in 22.01 ETA still holding up?:

https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/releases/22-01_2-6-0.html

uau, very big list of improvements and bug fixes :)

[johnpoz]

@mcury yup lots of good stuff, but not seeing anything that jumped out about any sort of analytics.. And I toggled through all the added: lines and searched for analytics etc.. Nothing jumped out at me.. So curious what specific feature he is referring to, and where he saw it stated?

[mcury]

@johnpoz said in 22.01 ETA still holding up?:

So curious what specific feature he is referring to, and where he saw it stated?

I don't see anything like that too..
Looked everything..

I'll probably do a clean install here..
As soon as its installed, I'll disable the log compression (sg-3100 not using ZFS).
Glad they fixed the php interpreter for the sg-3100, the dns resolver failing to load (that usually affects people that runs pfblockerng with python mode enabled and specially when restoring configs).. lots of ipsec news :)

[SteveITS]

@mcury said in 22.01 ETA still holding up?:

As soon as its installed, I'll disable the log compression

Not sure why you'd wait a version...? (you can do it now)

[mcury]

@steveits said in 22.01 ETA still holding up?:

Not sure why you'd wait a version...? (you can do it now)

Just did.. No reason to wait indeed..

[johnpoz]

@mcury said in 22.01 ETA still holding up?:

I'll probably do a clean install here..

Yeah prob same here, I think there was some changes to overall zfs stuff that was scheduled for 21.09, etc. Something to do with the overall layout.. something to do with root or partitions..

[beachbum2021]

@mcury i deleted the last two emails i received from pfsense so i cannot confirm what thought i read. sorry for the confusion...the release page clearly doesnt show what i thought i read.

[keyser]

@johnpoz They are cutting it close if january is still ETA…

[luckman212]

@keyser And there's a mantra in devops about "Don't Deploy on Friday" etc. So that leaves just Jan 31 hah.

[stephenw10]

Indeed it does.

[johnpoz]

@keyser I have been flogging them daily, you know to make sure their morale stays high..

I have to believe they want nothing more to release per their announcement, especially after 21.09 not being released.

But as always I am sure the release will happen when its ready..

I do believe there was another tweet mentioning something about supply chain and all that.. There was this tweet on the 15th

https://twitter.com/pfsense/status/1482479419377733633?cxt=HHwWgsCyra3L6ZIpAAAA

[luckman212]

[keyser]

@johnpoz Wonder what happens now? I get that product quality is paramount (as it should be) and there will be no release until it is ready, but..

1: Is there a risk they will pull this release like they did for 21.09 and aim for 22.05 instead now?
2: Will it release here in february or match when it’s ready, but still with the 22.01 name, or will it be renamed to 22.02 or 22.03?

I hope it’s not the former. I’m looking forward to all the IPsec fixes and especially the ZFS option to make the small ARM devices a little more poweroutage resistant. They are REALLY sensistive to corrupted filesystem bootloops in my experience.

Considering that Netgate is looking for more income/customers, my advise would be to start communicating a bit more. Things like 21.09 being pulled with some random twitter message but no official statements, and now this delay without a hint of explanation. I don’t think that helps with customer confidence.

[johnpoz]

@keyser all good points - I wish I had answer for you. Lack of communication is disconcerting to be sure.

[stephenw10]

@keyser said in 22.01 ETA still holding up?:

Is there a risk they will pull this release like they did for 21.09 and aim for 22.05 instead now?

Nope.

@keyser said in 22.01 ETA still holding up?:

Will it release here in february or match when it’s ready, but still with the 22.01 name

Yes.

We were on schedule for release yesterday but found a bug over the weekend that none of us could live with. That had now been fixed.

Real soon now....

[herozero]

@stephenw10 real soon has been said all over these forums and Reddit for days if not weeks. It’s not a good look.

Edit: I contribute, I buy appliances, I drink the pfsense kool-aid. But implementation with this “oh one more minute” is tough tough tough.

[SteveITS]

Perhaps Netgate should consider labeling the releases "22.Next" instead of a month number, to "resolve" this. :)

Personally, I'd rather have "good" than "on time."

[herozero]

@steveits when customers have maintenance windows and they pay for support, you sort of need both or people get touchy.

[keyser]

@steveits said in 22.01 ETA still holding up?:

Perhaps Netgate should consider labeling the releases "22.Next" instead of a month number, to "resolve" this. :)

Personally, I'd rather have "good" than "on time."

Yeah, that is probably a good idea. I have certainly changed my perception and expectations of netgate this last year since the advent of pfSense+ and the whole Wireguard situation.
Unfortunately not in a positive way.

Initially I though: “okay, I can live with that”, and decided to go all in on factory appliances - to be on the safe side with plus, added features and the more business like approach it signalled.

I must say it has been a huge let down in predictability and especially in missing communication ever since…

Edit: Wonder how long this last “real soon now” will be. Hopefully not months like the first ones, and weeks like the latter ones, have been so far.