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    22.01 ETA still holding up?

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    • johnpozJ
      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @mcury
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      @mcury yup lots of good stuff, but not seeing anything that jumped out about any sort of analytics.. And I toggled through all the added: lines and searched for analytics etc.. Nothing jumped out at me.. So curious what specific feature he is referring to, and where he saw it stated?

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        mcury @johnpoz
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        @johnpoz said in 22.01 ETA still holding up?:

        So curious what specific feature he is referring to, and where he saw it stated?

        I don't see anything like that too..
        Looked everything..

        I'll probably do a clean install here..
        As soon as its installed, I'll disable the log compression (sg-3100 not using ZFS).
        Glad they fixed the php interpreter for the sg-3100, the dns resolver failing to load (that usually affects people that runs pfblockerng with python mode enabled and specially when restoring configs).. lots of ipsec news :)

        dead on arrival, nowhere to be found.

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          SteveITS Galactic Empire @mcury
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          @mcury said in 22.01 ETA still holding up?:

          As soon as its installed, I'll disable the log compression

          Not sure why you'd wait a version...? (you can do it now)

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            mcury @SteveITS
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            @steveits said in 22.01 ETA still holding up?:

            Not sure why you'd wait a version...? (you can do it now)

            Just did.. No reason to wait indeed..

            dead on arrival, nowhere to be found.

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            • johnpozJ
              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @mcury
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              @mcury said in 22.01 ETA still holding up?:

              I'll probably do a clean install here..

              Yeah prob same here, I think there was some changes to overall zfs stuff that was scheduled for 21.09, etc. Something to do with the overall layout.. something to do with root or partitions..

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                beachbum2021 @mcury
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                @mcury i deleted the last two emails i received from pfsense so i cannot confirm what thought i read. sorry for the confusion...the release page clearly doesnt show what i thought i read.

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                • keyserK
                  keyser Rebel Alliance @johnpoz
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                  @johnpoz They are cutting it close if january is still ETA…

                  Love the no fuss of using the official appliances :-)

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                  • luckman212L
                    luckman212 LAYER 8 @keyser
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                    @keyser And there's a mantra in devops about "Don't Deploy on Friday" etc. So that leaves just Jan 31 hah.

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                    • stephenw10S
                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                      Indeed it does. šŸ˜‰

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                      • johnpozJ
                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @keyser
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                        @keyser I have been flogging them daily, you know to make sure their morale stays high..

                        I have to believe they want nothing more to release per their announcement, especially after 21.09 not being released.

                        But as always I am sure the release will happen when its ready..

                        I do believe there was another tweet mentioning something about supply chain and all that.. There was this tweet on the 15th

                        https://twitter.com/pfsense/status/1482479419377733633?cxt=HHwWgsCyra3L6ZIpAAAA

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                        • luckman212L
                          luckman212 LAYER 8 @stephenw10
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                          😐

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                          • keyserK
                            keyser Rebel Alliance @johnpoz
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                            @johnpoz Wonder what happens now? I get that product quality is paramount (as it should be) and there will be no release until it is ready, but..

                            1: Is there a risk they will pull this release like they did for 21.09 and aim for 22.05 instead now?
                            2: Will it release here in february or match when it’s ready, but still with the 22.01 name, or will it be renamed to 22.02 or 22.03?

                            I hope it’s not the former. I’m looking forward to all the IPsec fixes and especially the ZFS option to make the small ARM devices a little more poweroutage resistant. They are REALLY sensistive to corrupted filesystem bootloops in my experience.

                            Considering that Netgate is looking for more income/customers, my advise would be to start communicating a bit more. Things like 21.09 being pulled with some random twitter message but no official statements, and now this delay without a hint of explanation. I don’t think that helps with customer confidence.

                            Love the no fuss of using the official appliances :-)

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                            • johnpozJ
                              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @keyser
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                              @keyser all good points - I wish I had answer for you. Lack of communication is disconcerting to be sure.

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                              • stephenw10S
                                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator @keyser
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                                @keyser said in 22.01 ETA still holding up?:

                                Is there a risk they will pull this release like they did for 21.09 and aim for 22.05 instead now?

                                Nope.

                                @keyser said in 22.01 ETA still holding up?:

                                Will it release here in february or match when it’s ready, but still with the 22.01 name

                                Yes.

                                We were on schedule for release yesterday but found a bug over the weekend that none of us could live with. That had now been fixed.

                                Real soon now.... šŸ˜‰

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                                  herozero @stephenw10
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                                  @stephenw10 real soon has been said all over these forums and Reddit for days if not weeks. It’s not a good look.

                                  Edit: I contribute, I buy appliances, I drink the pfsense kool-aid. But implementation with this ā€œoh one more minuteā€ is tough tough tough.

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                                    SteveITS Galactic Empire @herozero
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                                    Perhaps Netgate should consider labeling the releases "22.Next" instead of a month number, to "resolve" this. :)

                                    Personally, I'd rather have "good" than "on time."

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                                      herozero @SteveITS
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                                      @steveits when customers have maintenance windows and they pay for support, you sort of need both or people get touchy.

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                                      • keyserK
                                        keyser Rebel Alliance @SteveITS
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                                        @steveits said in 22.01 ETA still holding up?:

                                        Perhaps Netgate should consider labeling the releases "22.Next" instead of a month number, to "resolve" this. :)

                                        Personally, I'd rather have "good" than "on time."

                                        Yeah, that is probably a good idea. I have certainly changed my perception and expectations of netgate this last year since the advent of pfSense+ and the whole Wireguard situation.
                                        Unfortunately not in a positive way.

                                        Initially I though: ā€œokay, I can live with thatā€, and decided to go all in on factory appliances - to be on the safe side with plus, added features and the more business like approach it signalled.

                                        I must say it has been a huge let down in predictability and especially in missing communication ever since…

                                        Edit: Wonder how long this last ā€œreal soon nowā€ will be. Hopefully not months like the first ones, and weeks like the latter ones, have been so far.

                                        Love the no fuss of using the official appliances :-)

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                                        • AndyRHA
                                          AndyRH
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                                          Just curious, is there a feature or fix that is driving the anxiety with the update being late?

                                          Mine is running fine and I am not waiting on a feature. I do get anxiety when installing updates...

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                                          7100-1u

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                                          • keyserK
                                            keyser Rebel Alliance @AndyRH
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                                            @andyrh said in 22.01 ETA still holding up?:

                                            Just curious, is there a feature or fix that is driving the anxiety with the update being late?

                                            Mine is running fine and I am not waiting on a feature. I do get anxiety when installing updates...

                                            Yeah for me there is: ZFS support on the small ARM appliances.
                                            I love those appliances from a performance/power perspective (especially the SG-2100). But they are really sensitive when it comes to power outages. My experience is that around 10% of all power loss situations causes a boot loop because of a corrupted filesystem.
                                            I have a bunch of them purchased to be deployed in small remote sites without UPS support. I hope ZFS will prove I can skip the investment in UPS’s for every location.
                                            But the locations are waiting, and i cannot wait much longer. This has already been delayed FAR too long.

                                            Love the no fuss of using the official appliances :-)

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