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    [solved] pfSense (2.6.0 & 22.01 ) is very slow on Hyper-V

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    • Bob.DigB
      Bob.Dig LAYER 8 @m0nji
      last edited by Bob.Dig

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      • m0njiM
        m0nji @Bob.Dig
        last edited by m0nji

        @bob-dig you missed a "."
        2a56818d-af59-4334-a94b-62baab96adfe-image.png

        hn.0 is probably the wan interface. you should also try hn.1, hn.2 and hn.3

        EDIT: you already fixed your post ;) try it also for hn1, hn2 and hn3. it depends which hn adapter you use

        EDIT2: if i understood it correctly, then none hn adapter should give you a value >0 if RSC is disabled. if it tells you a value >0 then the setting RSC disabled does not realy work

        Intel i3-N305 / 4 x 2.5Gbe LAN @2.7.2-Release
        WAN: Vodafone 1000/50, Telekom 250/40; Switch: USW Enterprise 8 PoE, USW Flex XG, US-8-60W; Wifi: Unifi 6 Lite AP, U6 Mesh

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        • Bob.DigB
          Bob.Dig LAYER 8 @m0nji
          last edited by Bob.Dig

          2.6:

          SoftwareRscEnabled RscOffloadEnabled
------------------ -----------------
             False             False
             False             False
             False             False

          grep -i "rsc" /var/log/system.log

          Feb 25 13:18:24 pfSense kernel: hn0: hwcaps rsc: ip4 1 ip6 1
Feb 25 13:18:24 pfSense kernel: hn0: offload rsc: ip4 2, ip6 2
Feb 25 13:18:24 pfSense kernel: hn1: hwcaps rsc: ip4 1 ip6 1
Feb 25 13:18:24 pfSense kernel: hn1: offload rsc: ip4 2, ip6 2
Feb 25 13:18:24 pfSense kernel: hn2: hwcaps rsc: ip4 1 ip6 1
Feb 25 13:18:24 pfSense kernel: hn2: offload rsc: ip4 2, ip6 2

          While "copying":

          sysctl dev.hn.1.rx.0.rsc_drop
sysctl dev.hn.1.rx.0.rsc_pkts
sysctl dev.hn.2.rx.0.rsc_drop
sysctl dev.hn.2.rx.0.rsc_pkts

          [2.6.0-RELEASE][root@pfSense.home.arpa]/root: sysctl dev.hn.1.rx.0.rsc_drop
dev.hn.1.rx.0.rsc_drop: 0
[2.6.0-RELEASE][root@pfSense.home.arpa]/root: sysctl dev.hn.1.rx.0.rsc_pkts
dev.hn.1.rx.0.rsc_pkts: 0
[2.6.0-RELEASE][root@pfSense.home.arpa]/root: sysctl dev.hn.2.rx.0.rsc_drop
dev.hn.2.rx.0.rsc_drop: 0
[2.6.0-RELEASE][root@pfSense.home.arpa]/root: sysctl dev.hn.2.rx.0.rsc_pkts
dev.hn.2.rx.0.rsc_pkts: 107

          The last number constantly rises.

          Everything stays the same for me if I re-enable rsc in Windows, no difference at all.

          SoftwareRscEnabled RscOffloadEnabled
------------------ -----------------
              True             False
              True             False
              True             False
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          • stephenw10S
            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
            last edited by

            Hmm, so just to be clear you are seeing the RSC packets counter increment whether or not you have disabled RSC on the vswitch that interface is connected to?

            That seems like a different result to those for whom disabling RSC solved the issue. And seems to support my conjecture... 🤔

            Unclear what we can do about it though if that is the case. Yet.

            Steve

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            • Bob.DigB
              Bob.Dig LAYER 8 @stephenw10
              last edited by

              @stephenw10 said in After Upgrade inter (V)LAN communication is very slow (on Hyper-V).:

              Hmm, so just to be clear you are seeing the RSC packets counter increment whether or not you have disabled RSC on the vswitch that interface is connected to?

              True

              Unclear what we can do about it though if that is the case. Yet.

              I hope you guys figure it out.

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              • stephenw10S
                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                last edited by

                Ok, so we need more data points here to be sure it's actually what's happening.

                But assuming that's true it appears:
                There's an issue with the RSC code added in FreeBSD.
                In some situations the vswitches in hyper-v do not respect the disable RSC setting.

                Steve

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                • stephenw10S
                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                  last edited by

                  Ok, so it looks like our European friends in fact already hit this because they are actually building on 13-stable and came to the same conclusions. I have opened a bug report: https://redmine.pfsense.org/issues/12873

                  Steve

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                  • stephenw10S
                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                    last edited by

                    What do you guys see for these sysctls?:

                    dev.hn.0.hwassist: 607<CSUM_IP,CSUM_IP_UDP,CSUM_IP_TCP,CSUM_IP6_UDP,CSUM_IP6_TCP>
dev.hn.0.caps: 7ff<VLAN,MTU,IPCS,TCP4CS,TCP6CS,UDP4CS,UDP6CS,TSO4,TSO6,HASHVAL,UDPHASH>
dev.hn.0.ndis_version: 6.30
dev.hn.0.nvs_version: 393217

                    Please report whether or not you're hitting the issue with the values shown.

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                    • Bob.DigB
                      Bob.Dig LAYER 8 @stephenw10
                      last edited by Bob.Dig

                      @stephenw10 Hittin it hard

                      sysctl dev.hn.0.hwassist
sysctl dev.hn.0.caps
sysctl dev.hn.0.ndis_version
sysctl dev.hn.0.nvs_version

                      2.5.2
dev.hn.0.hwassist: 1617<CSUM_IP,CSUM_IP_UDP,CSUM_IP_TCP,CSUM_IP_TSO,CSUM_IP6_UDP,CSUM_IP6_TCP,CSUM_IP6_TSO>
dev.hn.0.caps: 7ff<VLAN,MTU,IPCS,TCP4CS,TCP6CS,UDP4CS,UDP6CS,TSO4,TSO6,HASHVAL,UDPHASH>
dev.hn.0.ndis_version: 6.30
dev.hn.0.nvs_version: 327680

2.6.0
dev.hn.0.hwassist: 607<CSUM_IP,CSUM_IP_UDP,CSUM_IP_TCP,CSUM_IP6_UDP,CSUM_IP6_TCP>
dev.hn.0.caps: 7ff<VLAN,MTU,IPCS,TCP4CS,TCP6CS,UDP4CS,UDP6CS,TSO4,TSO6,HASHVAL,UDPHASH>
dev.hn.0.ndis_version: 6.30
dev.hn.0.nvs_version: 393217

                      Although this time I haven't deactivated RSC in Windows Host.

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                      • m0njiM
                        m0nji @stephenw10
                        last edited by

                        @stephenw10

                        RSC disabled on Hyper-V Host

                        PS C:\Users\m0nji\Downloads\iperf-3.1.3-win64\iperf-3.1.3-win64> .\iperf3.exe -c 192.168.187.11 -R
Connecting to host 192.168.187.11, port 5201
Reverse mode, remote host 192.168.187.11 is sending
[  4] local 192.168.189.10 port 49995 connected to 192.168.187.11 port 5201
[ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bandwidth
[  4]   0.00-1.00   sec  55.6 KBytes   454 Kbits/sec
[  4]   1.00-2.01   sec  21.4 KBytes   174 Kbits/sec
[  4]   2.01-3.00   sec  21.4 KBytes   176 Kbits/sec
[  4]   3.00-4.00   sec  21.4 KBytes   175 Kbits/sec
[  4]   4.00-5.00   sec  17.1 KBytes   140 Kbits/sec
[  4]   5.00-6.00   sec  21.4 KBytes   175 Kbits/sec
[  4]   6.00-7.00   sec  21.4 KBytes   175 Kbits/sec
[  4]   7.00-8.01   sec  15.7 KBytes   128 Kbits/sec
[  4]   8.01-9.00   sec  20.0 KBytes   165 Kbits/sec
[  4]   9.00-10.00  sec  21.4 KBytes   175 Kbits/sec
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
[ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bandwidth
[  4]   0.00-10.00  sec   384 KBytes   314 Kbits/sec                  sender
[  4]   0.00-10.00  sec   237 KBytes   194 Kbits/sec                  receiver

iperf Done.

                        pfSense 2.6.0 (hitting the issue)

                        dev.hn.0.hwassist: 607<CSUM_IP,CSUM_IP_UDP,CSUM_IP_TCP,CSUM_IP6_UDP,CSUM_IP6_TCP>
dev.hn.0.caps: 7ff<VLAN,MTU,IPCS,TCP4CS,TCP6CS,UDP4CS,UDP6CS,TSO4,TSO6,HASHVAL,UDPHASH>
dev.hn.0.ndis_version: 6.30
dev.hn.0.nvs_version: 393217
dev.hn.1.hwassist: 607<CSUM_IP,CSUM_IP_UDP,CSUM_IP_TCP,CSUM_IP6_UDP,CSUM_IP6_TCP>
dev.hn.1.caps: 7ff<VLAN,MTU,IPCS,TCP4CS,TCP6CS,UDP4CS,UDP6CS,TSO4,TSO6,HASHVAL,UDPHASH>
dev.hn.1.ndis_version: 6.30
dev.hn.1.nvs_version: 393217
dev.hn.2.hwassist: 607<CSUM_IP,CSUM_IP_UDP,CSUM_IP_TCP,CSUM_IP6_UDP,CSUM_IP6_TCP>
dev.hn.2.caps: 7ff<VLAN,MTU,IPCS,TCP4CS,TCP6CS,UDP4CS,UDP6CS,TSO4,TSO6,HASHVAL,UDPHASH>
dev.hn.2.ndis_version: 6.30
dev.hn.2.nvs_version: 393217

                        for comparision FreeBSD 12.3 (hitting the issue)

                        dev.hn.0.hwassist: 17<CSUM_IP,CSUM_IP_UDP,CSUM_IP_TCP,CSUM_IP_TSO>
dev.hn.0.caps: 7ff<VLAN,MTU,IPCS,TCP4CS,TCP6CS,UDP4CS,UDP6CS,TSO4,TSO6,HASHVAL,UDPHASH>
dev.hn.0.ndis_version: 6.30
dev.hn.0.nvs_version: 393217
dev.hn.1.hwassist: 17<CSUM_IP,CSUM_IP_UDP,CSUM_IP_TCP,CSUM_IP_TSO>
dev.hn.1.caps: 7ff<VLAN,MTU,IPCS,TCP4CS,TCP6CS,UDP4CS,UDP6CS,TSO4,TSO6,HASHVAL,UDPHASH>
dev.hn.1.ndis_version: 6.30
dev.hn.1.nvs_version: 393217
dev.hn.2.hwassist: 17<CSUM_IP,CSUM_IP_UDP,CSUM_IP_TCP,CSUM_IP_TSO>
dev.hn.2.caps: 7ff<VLAN,MTU,IPCS,TCP4CS,TCP6CS,UDP4CS,UDP6CS,TSO4,TSO6,HASHVAL,UDPHASH>
dev.hn.2.ndis_version: 6.30
dev.hn.2.nvs_version: 393217

                        FreeBSD 13.0 (not hitting the issue but obviously not STABLE version)

                        dev.hn.0.hwassist: 17<CSUM_IP,CSUM_IP_UDP,CSUM_IP_TCP,CSUM_IP_TSO>
dev.hn.0.caps: 7ff<VLAN,MTU,IPCS,TCP4CS,TCP6CS,UDP4CS,UDP6CS,TSO4,TSO6,HASHVAL,UDPHASH>
dev.hn.0.ndis_version: 6.30
dev.hn.0.nvs_version: 327680
dev.hn.1.hwassist: 17<CSUM_IP,CSUM_IP_UDP,CSUM_IP_TCP,CSUM_IP_TSO>
dev.hn.1.caps: 7ff<VLAN,MTU,IPCS,TCP4CS,TCP6CS,UDP4CS,UDP6CS,TSO4,TSO6,HASHVAL,UDPHASH>
dev.hn.1.ndis_version: 6.30
dev.hn.1.nvs_version: 327680
dev.hn.2.hwassist: 17<CSUM_IP,CSUM_IP_UDP,CSUM_IP_TCP,CSUM_IP_TSO>
dev.hn.2.caps: 7ff<VLAN,MTU,IPCS,TCP4CS,TCP6CS,UDP4CS,UDP6CS,TSO4,TSO6,HASHVAL,UDPHASH>
dev.hn.2.ndis_version: 6.30
dev.hn.2.nvs_version: 327680

                        Intel i3-N305 / 4 x 2.5Gbe LAN @2.7.2-Release
                        WAN: Vodafone 1000/50, Telekom 250/40; Switch: USW Enterprise 8 PoE, USW Flex XG, US-8-60W; Wifi: Unifi 6 Lite AP, U6 Mesh

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                        • Bob.DigB
                          Bob.Dig LAYER 8
                          last edited by Bob.Dig

                          I figured out an interim solution for me. I created two external Switches, one for pfSense and one for all the other VMs. With that it does work, no slow speed anymore. Drawback is, it is using one more port and everything goes through a physical Switch.

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                          • stephenw10S
                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                            last edited by

                            So that's no routing between VMs in the same host? That seems like it's what should trigger this.

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                            • Bob.DigB
                              Bob.Dig LAYER 8 @stephenw10
                              last edited by Bob.Dig

                              @stephenw10 I think the key point is that pfsense is not using the same vSwitch then the others. This is an untypical setup and no one with a right mind would do it like this, but I did. And it does work here. I think I simulated "having two (vm) hosts", where it is natural, that the VMs can't use the same vSwitch.

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                              • Bob.DigB
                                Bob.Dig LAYER 8
                                last edited by

                                It feels like coming home, finally. 🤗

                                yeha.png

                                Still hope for a real fix to that situation some have for the future.

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                                • i386DXI
                                  i386DX
                                  last edited by 

                                  Set-VMSwitch -Name "*" -EnableSoftwareRsc $false

Get-VMNetworkAdapter -VMName "vmname" | Where-Object {$_.MacAddress -eq "yourmacaddress"} | Set-VMNetworkAdapter -RscEnabled $false

                                  Seems to have worked for restoring both my wan upload and inter vlan throughput. Is there any official guidance on this?

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                                  • N
                                    n1ck31 @DD
                                    last edited by

                                    @dd Did you downgrade without a reinstall? The one time I forgot to take a snapshot and now I'm left with dialup speeds on my 10G server.

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                                    • m0njiM
                                      m0nji @i386DX
                                      last edited by m0nji

                                      @i386dx said in After Upgrade inter (V)LAN communication is very slow (on Hyper-V).:

                                      damn this did the trick right now

                                      Get-VMNetworkAdapter -VMName "vmname" | Where-Object {$_.MacAddress -eq "yourmacaddress"} | Set-VMNetworkAdapter -RscEnabled $false

                                      we were just concentrating of disabling RSC on the vSwitch but there is also a variable for the VMs.
                                      so the workaround should be:

                                      1. disable RSC support on the vSwitch
                                      Set-VMSwitch -Name "vSwitchName" -SoftwareRscEnabled $false
                                      1. disable RSC support on the VM
                                      Get-VMNetworkAdapter -VMName "VMname" | Set-VMNetworkAdapter -RscEnabled $false

                                      one important side note: right now, you have to enable & disable RSC on the VM after every VM reboot even when the value is still $false!
                                      at least on my host...

                                      Intel i3-N305 / 4 x 2.5Gbe LAN @2.7.2-Release
                                      WAN: Vodafone 1000/50, Telekom 250/40; Switch: USW Enterprise 8 PoE, USW Flex XG, US-8-60W; Wifi: Unifi 6 Lite AP, U6 Mesh

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                                      • i386DXI
                                        i386DX @m0nji
                                        last edited by

                                        @m0nji said in After Upgrade inter (V)LAN communication is very slow (on Hyper-V).:

                                        one important side note: right now, you have to enable & disable RSC on the VM after every VM reboot even when the value is still $false!
                                        at least on my host...

                                        Yes, same behaviour on my host too (Windows server 2022, gen2 vm, I350-T2 adapter, sr-iov unavailable, vmq disabled).
                                        In my case I could even leave -SoftwareRscEnabled enabled on the vswitches and just flip -RscEnabled on and off on the vm network adapter(s) to restore normal bandwidth.

                                        Unfortunately I'm not aware if there are ways to enforce nvs version 5 (327680) on the hn driver.

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                                        • stephenw10S
                                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                          last edited by

                                          Indeed I was hoping there would be some way to force it but I don't see any way.

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                                          • m0njiM
                                            m0nji @stephenw10
                                            last edited by

                                            @stephenw10
                                            we should keep an eye on this: https://reviews.freebsd.org/D29075?id=85183

                                            Intel i3-N305 / 4 x 2.5Gbe LAN @2.7.2-Release
                                            WAN: Vodafone 1000/50, Telekom 250/40; Switch: USW Enterprise 8 PoE, USW Flex XG, US-8-60W; Wifi: Unifi 6 Lite AP, U6 Mesh

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