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    • DaddyGoD
      DaddyGo @dfinjr
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      @dfinjr said in VMware Workstation VMs Web Traffic Being Blocked:

      Routing is happening in a few places.

      you are a mind reader, hee hee hee

      Cats bury it so they can't see it!
      (You know what I mean if you have a cat)

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        dfinjr @DaddyGo
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        @daddygo
        Here is a little more:
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        • DaddyGoD
          DaddyGo @johnpoz
          last edited by

          @johnpoz said in VMware Workstation VMs Web Traffic Being Blocked:

          I am viewing hidden folders..

          since log(s), may be generated here later, try to turn off - turn on guest OS
          (yours is a fresh install)

          Cats bury it so they can't see it!
          (You know what I mean if you have a cat)

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          • DaddyGoD
            DaddyGo @dfinjr
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            @dfinjr said in VMware Workstation VMs Web Traffic Being Blocked:

            Here is a little more:

            what type is this TP-Link switch?

            Cats bury it so they can't see it!
            (You know what I mean if you have a cat)

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            • johnpozJ
              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @DaddyGo
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              @daddygo I wonder if that has something to do with shared VM?

              https://communities.vmware.com/t5/VMware-Workstation-Pro/Shared-VM-gone-in-workstation-16/td-p/2303228

              After installing version 16, I realized that the Shared-VM feature was removed and there is no "hostd" service on Linux but in windows "hostd" exist but there is not any section for configuration in GUI or CLI!

              Looks like it maybe went away, and then came back in 16.1 - but maybe gone again in 16.2?

              https://docs.vmware.com/en/VMware-Workstation-Pro/16.2.0/rn/VMware-Workstation-1620-Pro-Release-Notes.html
              The shared virtual machine feature is no longer supported from Workstation 16.2.0 Pro.

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              If you get confused: Listen to the Music Play
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              • DaddyGoD
                DaddyGo @johnpoz
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                @johnpoz said in VMware Workstation VMs Web Traffic Being Blocked:

                I realized that the Shared-VM feature was removed and there is no "hostd" service on Linux but in windows "hostd" exist but there is not any section for configuration in GUI or CLI!

                I started with 16.0 and upgraded to 16.2.2 (step by step), but never ran windows here, only Ubuntu Focal desktop installed..

                (I only use it for daily work, Ubuntu on one monitor and Win10 on the other)

                Cats bury it so they can't see it!
                (You know what I mean if you have a cat)

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                • johnpozJ
                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @dfinjr
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                  @dfinjr Where exactly are you sniffing.. Sniff your traffic on that .202 workstation, on the interface that you have bridged your VM with.. I take it there is only 1?

                  Look and see what is being put on the wire.. If its not your standard 1500 (1514) sized frame, then yeah your going to have problems.

                  Your saying that VMs on this .203 host are not having problems - sniff there what are the frame sizes?

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                    dfinjr @DaddyGo
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                    @daddygo
                    The tp-link is a L2 switch model: TL-SG108.

                    @johnpoz
                    Those earlier uploads with the word "client" are all from .202, the additional capture is from pfsense. Yep, the .202 client captures are from the bridged "ethernet" adapter. Only connected interface on the system outside of "loopback"
                    ba292185-c174-4367-b527-5f5663365092-image.png

                    So let me clarify there. .201 is the hosting system (no browing issues) and .202 - .204 are all VMS having the browsing issues.

                    How is your lab test going?

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                      dfinjr
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                      @stephenw10
                      Happy to execute any ideas that you have as well. Please don't hesitate to ask.

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                      • stephenw10S
                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                        Mmm, I think this is not what it appears at all. I suggest the NIC driver is doing something that simply makes it appear to be large frames in the virtual network.

                        Looking at the simultaneous pcaps from earlier (were they actually simultaneous?) it appears what's happening here is the 'Server Hello' packet from an external server never makes it to the client.
                        If this is an MTU issue it appears to be the other way, large packets are not passed into VMWare.

                        Steve

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                        • stephenw10S
                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                          Looks like the pfSense side was only set to 100 packets so it's hard to know for sure we are seeing the same thing. Also it wasn't filtered by an external IP.

                          Can we see simultaneous pcaps from the pfSense client and LAN filtered by the external you try to connect to. At least 1000 packets on each. Though if it's filtered you should not need that many.

                          Steve

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                            dfinjr @stephenw10
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                            @stephenw10
                            That is interesting about the packet size being virtual side only.

                            Yep they're as simultaneous and I can think to make them. The capture from pfsense will be longer as I do these steps: Pfsense > Packet capture > set interface to labsystems (vlan 2000 - 172.16.0.0/24) > host 172.16.0.202 > port 443 > start capture > jump to vm > start Wireshark listing for tcp 443 > bring up chrome and browse to the sites that aren't playing ball > let capture run for about 8-10 seconds > stop > save as with compression > stop capture of pfsense > upload both to this forum.

                            I'd be happy to run another capture. I have a 2mb hard upload limit on this site so I was intentionally trying to keep these small. I'd be happy to upload a bigger packet capture just let me know where.

                            Can you frame out for me exactly how you want me to kick off the capture, how long and with doing what? Just want to make sure I get it to the exact criteria that you need to see.

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                            • stephenw10S
                              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                              Yeah, that's absolutely what's happening here. Look at the second pair of captures. Filter by ip.addr == 151.101.2.219.
                              That IP sends the Server Hello in 4 TCP segments but the client only receives the last part, smallest packet.
                              Connection fails.

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                                dfinjr @stephenw10
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                                @stephenw10
                                So are you thinking that comms are getting out from the client out to the hosting internet server, the hello traverses back and then the larger packets aren't surviving? What do you think could cause that?

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                                • stephenw10S
                                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                  Can you pcap on the VMWare host interface? to see if it arrives there?

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                                  • DaddyGoD
                                    DaddyGo @dfinjr
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                                    @dfinjr said in VMware Workstation VMs Web Traffic Being Blocked:

                                    What do you think could cause that?

                                    as Stephen says " Can you pcap on the VMWare host interface?"

                                    pls. plug the laptop directly into the SG's port 4 and start a packet capture on both the box and the laptop

                                    BTW:
                                    if the .pcap is too big give us a dropbox or mega, etc link

                                    Cats bury it so they can't see it!
                                    (You know what I mean if you have a cat)

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                                      dfinjr @stephenw10
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                                      @stephenw10

                                      I want to make sure I capture this right. So I'll eliminate the switch, go direct host > netgate.

                                      Start a capture on the vm targeting this
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                                      Then also capture such as this from Pfsense:
                                      b21294e8-243b-426e-b77d-07e3cf1bd68c-image.png

                                      If that is all correct, how long of a capture would you like?

                                      Please tune before the capture want to get you all what you need first shot.

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                                        dfinjr
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                                        FYI I have disconnected the switch from scenario so it is direct from netgate > vm hosting laptop.

                                        Still seeing the browsing issue but I know we're about to capture based on that, just wanted to let you know.

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                                        • stephenw10S
                                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                          You should filter by the destination IP in pfSense if you can otherwise we see all the local traffic and make sure you set the packet count to 1000.

                                          On the other side try to capture on the VMWare host not the VM. We already have caps from the VM showing the large packets failing to arrive. We need to see if they arrive at the VM host interface.

                                          Steve

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                                            dfinjr @stephenw10
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                                            @stephenw10
                                            So some difficulty here.

                                            attempting to capture packets I have this two virtual adapters on the hosting system:

                                            dfe92fbf-ade5-408f-9e0e-727249660589-image.png

                                            Very interesting. Just sniffing these two interface yield nothing. I go to .202 and browse to netgate.com and 0 packets show up on either of these.

                                            Did you mean the literal physical adapter on the host machine?

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