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    VMware Workstation VMs Web Traffic Being Blocked

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      dfinjr @johnpoz
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      @johnpoz
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      Also on win10.

      The only difference I saw between our two configurations was that you were running NAT based vs bridged:
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        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @DaddyGo
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        @daddygo I don't see any hostd directory there in my shiny new vmwareworkstation pro install.

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          DaddyGo @johnpoz
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          @johnpoz said in VMware Workstation VMs Web Traffic Being Blocked:

          what are you running exactly

          same....

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            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @dfinjr
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            @dfinjr I could move it to bridged network.. It just defaults to natting, one sec

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              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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              Still not convinced we are not chasing the wrong thing here. Unless someone can show me an oversized packet for a connection that's actually failing?

              How are those other private subnet connected @dfinjr ? What's routing them?

              Steve

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                DaddyGo @johnpoz
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                @johnpoz said in VMware Workstation VMs Web Traffic Being Blocked:

                I don't see any hostd directory there in my shiny new vmwareworkstation pro install.

                hidden "folders" in principle...

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                  DaddyGo @dfinjr
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                  @dfinjr said in VMware Workstation VMs Web Traffic Being Blocked:

                  .......................

                  please draw us (even by hand) a network topology (if this is not a problem)

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                    dfinjr @stephenw10
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                    @stephenw10
                    Routing is happening in a few places. Routing is primarily being through pfsense/netgate. Here is a quick diagram:
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                    • johnpozJ
                      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @DaddyGo
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                      @daddygo I am viewing hidden folders.. I don't see any of those folders under there

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                      And here in bridge mode, still the current mtu

                      bridged.jpg

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                        DaddyGo @dfinjr
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                        @dfinjr said in VMware Workstation VMs Web Traffic Being Blocked:

                        Routing is happening in a few places.

                        you are a mind reader, hee hee hee

                        Cats bury it so they can't see it!
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                          dfinjr @DaddyGo
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                          @daddygo
                          Here is a little more:
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                            DaddyGo @johnpoz
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                            @johnpoz said in VMware Workstation VMs Web Traffic Being Blocked:

                            I am viewing hidden folders..

                            since log(s), may be generated here later, try to turn off - turn on guest OS
                            (yours is a fresh install)

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                              DaddyGo @dfinjr
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                              @dfinjr said in VMware Workstation VMs Web Traffic Being Blocked:

                              Here is a little more:

                              what type is this TP-Link switch?

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                                johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @DaddyGo
                                last edited by johnpoz

                                @daddygo I wonder if that has something to do with shared VM?

                                https://communities.vmware.com/t5/VMware-Workstation-Pro/Shared-VM-gone-in-workstation-16/td-p/2303228

                                After installing version 16, I realized that the Shared-VM feature was removed and there is no "hostd" service on Linux but in windows "hostd" exist but there is not any section for configuration in GUI or CLI!

                                Looks like it maybe went away, and then came back in 16.1 - but maybe gone again in 16.2?

                                https://docs.vmware.com/en/VMware-Workstation-Pro/16.2.0/rn/VMware-Workstation-1620-Pro-Release-Notes.html
                                The shared virtual machine feature is no longer supported from Workstation 16.2.0 Pro.

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                                  DaddyGo @johnpoz
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                                  @johnpoz said in VMware Workstation VMs Web Traffic Being Blocked:

                                  I realized that the Shared-VM feature was removed and there is no "hostd" service on Linux but in windows "hostd" exist but there is not any section for configuration in GUI or CLI!

                                  I started with 16.0 and upgraded to 16.2.2 (step by step), but never ran windows here, only Ubuntu Focal desktop installed..

                                  (I only use it for daily work, Ubuntu on one monitor and Win10 on the other)

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                                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @dfinjr
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                                    @dfinjr Where exactly are you sniffing.. Sniff your traffic on that .202 workstation, on the interface that you have bridged your VM with.. I take it there is only 1?

                                    Look and see what is being put on the wire.. If its not your standard 1500 (1514) sized frame, then yeah your going to have problems.

                                    Your saying that VMs on this .203 host are not having problems - sniff there what are the frame sizes?

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                                      dfinjr @DaddyGo
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                                      @daddygo
                                      The tp-link is a L2 switch model: TL-SG108.

                                      @johnpoz
                                      Those earlier uploads with the word "client" are all from .202, the additional capture is from pfsense. Yep, the .202 client captures are from the bridged "ethernet" adapter. Only connected interface on the system outside of "loopback"
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                                      So let me clarify there. .201 is the hosting system (no browing issues) and .202 - .204 are all VMS having the browsing issues.

                                      How is your lab test going?

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                                        dfinjr
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                                        @stephenw10
                                        Happy to execute any ideas that you have as well. Please don't hesitate to ask.

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                                        • stephenw10S
                                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                          Mmm, I think this is not what it appears at all. I suggest the NIC driver is doing something that simply makes it appear to be large frames in the virtual network.

                                          Looking at the simultaneous pcaps from earlier (were they actually simultaneous?) it appears what's happening here is the 'Server Hello' packet from an external server never makes it to the client.
                                          If this is an MTU issue it appears to be the other way, large packets are not passed into VMWare.

                                          Steve

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                                          • stephenw10S
                                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                            Looks like the pfSense side was only set to 100 packets so it's hard to know for sure we are seeing the same thing. Also it wasn't filtered by an external IP.

                                            Can we see simultaneous pcaps from the pfSense client and LAN filtered by the external you try to connect to. At least 1000 packets on each. Though if it's filtered you should not need that many.

                                            Steve

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