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      wickeren @jimp
      last edited by

      @jimp

      Great! Tnx a lot!

      Gonna try tonight and stress it a bit more to see if it's reproducible or not anymore.

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        wickeren @wickeren
        last edited by wickeren

        For some reason easy reproducible now, even with Strongswan 5.9.3 on latest snapshot.
        Fresh reboot, login, Ipsec status, bring some tunnels up and it just stops. Have to say it crashes on bringing up the exact same connection as last time. Might be a coincidence, but seeing others sides logs might be interesting. Still no answer from there though.
        Sometimes bringing up an down this particular connection is no problem at all.

        When it was this state I have run the advised commands:

        sockstat | grep -i vici

        
        root     swanctl    28047 7  stream -> /var/run/charon.vici
        root     swanctl    19770 7  stream -> /var/run/charon.vici
        root     swanctl    19222 7  stream -> /var/run/charon.vici
        root     php-fpm    22436 14 stream -> /var/run/charon.vici
        root     charon     60508 22 stream /var/run/charon.vici
        root     charon     60508 25 stream /var/run/charon.vici
        root     charon     60508 26 stream /var/run/charon.vici
        root     php-fpm    328   14 stream -> /var/run/charon.vici
        ?        ?          ?     ?  stream /var/run/charon.vici
        ?        ?          ?     ?  stream /var/run/charon.vici
        ?        ?          ?     ?  stream /var/run/charon.vici
        
        

        netstat -LAn | grep vici

        
        unix  3/0/3                            /var/run/charon.vici
        
        

        Can provide complete IPSEC logs if needed, but it stalls at the same point in P2 initiate as last provided log snippet and then it all ends until rebooting.

        Any other thing I could do to collect some more info? I just can’t believe to be the only one being able to reproduce this, on even multiple boxes. It all are KVM VPS boxes if that might matter at all.

        Best regards,

        Julian

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        • jimpJ
          jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
          last edited by jimp

          I've got about 20 systems interconnected with IPsec tunnels that I setup when working on IPsec for 21.09/2.6.0 and thus far I haven't been able to reproduce it on any of them, no matter how much I click around on the status page. They are a mix of Plus and CE both on hardware and VMs (Proxmox/KVM and ESX)

          Only thing I can think of is maybe something is in the middle of making a request when IPsec is reloaded at boot time, but even when I try to do that manually I can't get it to break here.

          There must be some timing, environmental, or procedural component we haven't figured out yet that is contributing.

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            wickeren @jimp
            last edited by

            @jimp

            some more info:

            ipsec status shows this:

            con15_105{139}: ROUTED, TUNNEL, reqid 139
            con15_105{139}: xxx.xxx.xxx.0/24|/0 === yyy.yyy.yyy.0/24|/0
            con15_104{138}: ROUTED, TUNNEL, reqid 138
            con15_104{138}: xxx.xxx.xxx.0/24|/0 === yyy.yyy.yyy.0/24|/0

            However, con15 show disconnected on the status screen. Do I misunderstand the info from ipsec status?

            Trying to connect from status screen sometimes triggers the situation, especially shorly after boot.

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              wickeren @wickeren
              last edited by

              On Strongswan github they suggest:

              Configure logging, install debug symbols (or don't strip the binaries), and attach a debugger when it happens. Then provide stacktraces for all threads.
              Then we can say something.

              I have to say that I haven’t done this before, let alone on freebsd. I think I need to run pkg install pfSense-kernel-debug for debug symbols but I’m unsure what to do next to get the stacktraces.

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              • jimpJ
                jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
                last edited by

                Debugging is probably a bit beyond what you'd be able to do since it would generate tons and tons of data and it would be nearly impossible to sift through it all to tell what the interesting bits are.

                You could try truss -fp xxxxx where xxxxx is the PID of the charon process to see what happens at the time.

                Or truss -f swanctl <blah> when attempting a manual connect/disconnect to see if it shows anything useful.

                I kind of doubt swanctl would be helpful in this case since it's probably just blocked waiting on a request to vici to do something and never getting a response so it piles up.

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                  wickeren @jimp
                  last edited by

                  @jimp

                  Tnx again!

                  It looks like there are 2 charon processes running:

                  pgrep -f charon
                  58278
                  58059
                  

                  Wonder if that is correct. First PID gives output in truss, second seems empty.
                  Will write ouput to a file and see if it reveals anything usefull.

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                  • jimpJ
                    jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
                    last edited by

                    That could definitely be a problem if there are two running. I'm not sure how that might happen, though.

                    Is it actually two and not just two threads or a worker of some kind?

                    This is normal:

                    root    35995   0.0  0.2  10752  1696  -  Is   15:38      0:00.00 daemon: /usr/local/libexec/ipsec/charon[36322] (daemon)
                    root    36322   0.0  2.0  51140 19356  -  I    15:38      1:07.25 /usr/local/libexec/ipsec/charon --use-syslog
                    

                    But if you see multiples of either of those then it could be the source of the problem.

                    There could be some kind of an odd timing issue where it's getting started twice, a race condition that depends on other environmental factors that may vary.

                    Might need to comb through the logs for both of those PIDs and then check other logs for entries around the time when the second PID started. See if there was anything logged in the system log, gateway log, etc.

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                      lungdart @jimp
                      last edited by

                      I'm having the same issue! It took a lot of googling around to find this.

                      I'm running PFSense 22.01-RELEASE (arm) on a Netgate 3100. The IPSec tunnel is an AWS site-to-site VPN connection. I've only noticed this issue after upgrading the device after the recent CVE for authenticated RCE and CSRF.

                      IPsec logs will randomly stop, and the status page shows the tunnels as disconnected. Connecting them does nothing, restarting the service does nothing. When I SSH into it, The charon command is running but the second forked daemon isn't. I have no crash dumps, and the vici sockets are all used up. Running any commands against the socket fail as I get connections refused.

                      To recover from this state. I have to kill -9 the charon command, and restart the IPSec service and manually connect the tunnel connections.

                      I also can't find a pattern as to when this happens, but it does happen multiple times a week.

                      Let me know if there's any additional information I can collect for you guys about this issue, as it's quite annoying.

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                        hsb @lungdart
                        last edited by

                        I am having same issue on pfsense + hosted on AWS after updating, from 2.2.4 to 22.01, every now and than app vpn tunnels stops working and ipsec service cannot be restarted, i have to reboot the firewall to fix the issue.
                        I have 50 VPN tunnels running with various sites.

                        Any help would be appreciated.

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                          envyron.mfernandes
                          last edited by

                          Same thing here, we have about 70 tunnels and after upgrading to 2.6.0/22.01 everyday we have all ipsecs down.

                          We need to kill -9 charon (and edit some tunnel after that to apply settings and start tunnels) or reboot the AWS EC2 instance (pfsense 22.01).

                          We have other physical box (pfsense 2.6.0) with same problem:

                          Apr 11 11:41:18 pfsense-bloco14-ha01 kernel: sonewconn: pcb 0xfffff80181d0fa00: Listen queue overflow: 5 already in queue awaiting acceptance (4 occurrences)
                          Apr 11 11:43:44 pfsense-bloco14-ha01 kernel: sonewconn: pcb 0xfffff80181d0fa00: Listen queue overflow: 5 already in queue awaiting acceptance (22 occurrences)
                          Apr 11 12:14:01 pfsense-bloco14-ha01 kernel: sonewconn: pcb 0xfffff80181d33700: Listen queue overflow: 5 already in queue awaiting acceptance (2 occurrences)
                          Apr 11 12:15:01 pfsense-bloco14-ha01 kernel: sonewconn: pcb 0xfffff80181d33700: Listen queue overflow: 5 already in queue awaiting acceptance (11 occurrences)
                          Apr 11 12:16:06 pfsense-bloco14-ha01 kernel: sonewconn: pcb 0xfffff80181d33700: Listen queue overflow: 5 already in queue awaiting acceptance (12 occurrences)
                          Apr 11 12:17:09 pfsense-bloco14-ha01 kernel: sonewconn: pcb 0xfffff80181d33700: Listen queue overflow: 5 already in queue awaiting acceptance (11 occurrences)

                          Any news so far?

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                            jtheisen
                            last edited by

                            Hi, another patient here.
                            17 P1s with a lot more Child SAs and in irregular intervals they all just stop working, even without any interaction at all with the WebGUI etc.
                            Is this something that was/will be addressed in 2.7.0?

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                            • jimpJ
                              jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
                              last edited by

                              Yes, it's been fixed in current development snapshots of CE 2.7.0 already, and in the most recent release of pfSense Plus software.

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