Netgate Discussion Forum
    • Categories
    • Recent
    • Tags
    • Popular
    • Users
    • Search
    • Register
    • Login

    Gigabit internet PPPoE and pfSense

    Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved General pfSense Questions
    58 Posts 6 Posters 13.7k Views
    Loading More Posts
    • Oldest to Newest
    • Newest to Oldest
    • Most Votes
    Reply
    • Reply as topic
    Log in to reply
    This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
    • P
      Patch
      last edited by

      @riahc8 said in Gigabit internet PPPoE and pfSense:

      from another linux VM to the pfsense BUT they are on different physical hosts:

      @riahc8 said in Gigabit internet PPPoE and pfSense:

      95.6 Mbits/sec

      ??bad cable supporting only 100Mb connection

      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
      • stephenw10S
        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
        last edited by

        Yup, looks like a bad link to the host pfSense is on.

        R 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
        • R
          riahc8 @stephenw10
          last edited by riahc8

          @stephenw10 But the cable is cat6 afaik that should run at 10Gb (my cards only support 1Gb)

          johnpozJ JKnottJ 3 Replies Last reply Reply Quote 0
          • johnpozJ
            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @riahc8
            last edited by

            @riahc8 said in Gigabit internet PPPoE and pfSense:

            But the cable is cat6

            Doesn't mean its not bad..

            An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools
            If you get confused: Listen to the Music Play
            Please don't Chat/PM me for help, unless mod related
            SG-4860 24.11 | Lab VMs 2.8, 24.11

            stephenw10S R 2 Replies Last reply Reply Quote 0
            • stephenw10S
              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator @johnpoz
              last edited by

              ...or just misconfigured somewhere.

              1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
              • johnpozJ
                johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @riahc8
                last edited by johnpoz

                @riahc8 said in Gigabit internet PPPoE and pfSense:

                afaik that should run at 10Gb

                BTW - cat 5e can also do 10ge for short distances.. But just because something is rated for something doesn't mean it not something wrong with it, 100mb only needs 4 wires out of the 8, for gig or higher you need all 4 pairs of wires, not just 2.

                If your set to auto on gig interfaces and it only comes up 100, then something wrong.

                Or something set wrong - but a 95mbps speed screams the connection is only 100. That first 1 showing 103mbps could just be a math sort of error in the tool?

                An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools
                If you get confused: Listen to the Music Play
                Please don't Chat/PM me for help, unless mod related
                SG-4860 24.11 | Lab VMs 2.8, 24.11

                JKnottJ 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
                • JKnottJ
                  JKnott @riahc8
                  last edited by

                  @riahc8 said in Gigabit internet PPPoE and pfSense:

                  But the cable is cat6 afaik that should run at 10Gb (my cards only support 1Gb)

                  Which means it won't make any difference. Gb Ethernet was designed for plain CAT5 and predates 5e.

                  PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
                  i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
                  UniFi AC-Lite access point

                  I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

                  johnpozJ 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                  • johnpozJ
                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @JKnott
                    last edited by johnpoz

                    ^ yup, cat 5 runs gig all day long for full 100m of length without any issues. As long as nothing wrong with the cable. When gig first came out - kind of the whole thing that it could run on the existing installed 5..

                    An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools
                    If you get confused: Listen to the Music Play
                    Please don't Chat/PM me for help, unless mod related
                    SG-4860 24.11 | Lab VMs 2.8, 24.11

                    JKnottJ 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                    • JKnottJ
                      JKnott @johnpoz
                      last edited by

                      @johnpoz said in Gigabit internet PPPoE and pfSense:

                      BTW - cat 5e can also do 10ge for short distances.

                      Yep. Those specs are for 100M (330') of cable. Not many homes have runs that long. I was just measuring here last week and found the longest run is 45'. That is pretty much from one end of my condo to the other.

                      PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
                      i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
                      UniFi AC-Lite access point

                      I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

                      johnpozJ 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                      • johnpozJ
                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @JKnott
                        last edited by johnpoz

                        @jknott yeah, I have a run in my attic as back bone if you will, just used a 100' premade cable - lots of spare cable just coiled up in the attic. When I put that in the 100' was real cheap.. And I didn't exactly know how much I needed but I knew 100 would do it because the house is only like 75 feet one side to the other ;)

                        An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools
                        If you get confused: Listen to the Music Play
                        Please don't Chat/PM me for help, unless mod related
                        SG-4860 24.11 | Lab VMs 2.8, 24.11

                        JKnottJ 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                        • JKnottJ
                          JKnott @johnpoz
                          last edited by

                          @johnpoz said in Gigabit internet PPPoE and pfSense:

                          ^ yup, cat 5 runs gig all day long for full 100m of length without any issues. As long as nothing wrong with the cable. When gig first came out - kind of the whole thing that it could run on the existing installed 5..

                          I have 2 runs of plain CAT5, about 45' long that were installed in the late 90s by my cable TV company, when they installed my first cable modem. They're still going strong.

                          BTW, the reason I was measuring the cables is my ISP will soon be providing 8 Gb over fibre (they currently offer 2.5) and I was thinking about what I'd have to do if I went for it. One thing would be replacing CAT5 that's almost a quarter century old with CAT6. I'd also have to update my router hardware and switch, etc.. For now, I'll stick with my 500/20 connection that actually provides over 900/30, according to speedtest.

                          PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
                          i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
                          UniFi AC-Lite access point

                          I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

                          1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                          • JKnottJ
                            JKnott @johnpoz
                            last edited by

                            @johnpoz said in Gigabit internet PPPoE and pfSense:

                            @jknott yeah, I have a run in my attic as back bone if you will, just used a 100' premade cable - lots of spare cable just coiled up in the attic. When I put that in the 100' was real cheap.. And I didn't exactly know how much I needed but I knew 100 would do it because the house is only like 75 feet one side to the other ;)

                            When mine was run in, I estimated the needed length and added a bit more. My ISP sent a 2 man crew that fished the cables up the wall between my living room and bedroom, along side an air duct, over my closet and bathroom ceilings and into the laudry room, when they are visible crossing the ceiling, down behind the water heater and through the wall into my "office" closet, where I terminated the Ethernet cables on keystone jacks. It took those guys 3 hours to do the job. The other ends of those cables are behind my living room and bedroom TVs, nice and handy for IPTV, which I got a couple of years ago.

                            PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
                            i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
                            UniFi AC-Lite access point

                            I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

                            1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                            • R
                              riahc8 @johnpoz
                              last edited by riahc8

                              @johnpoz said in Gigabit internet PPPoE and pfSense:

                              @riahc8 said in Gigabit internet PPPoE and pfSense:

                              But the cable is cat6

                              Doesn't mean its not bad..

                              Hmmm I mean I guess its a possibility.

                              Could you (or others/anyone) recommend a brand to buy? Amazon is full of cables so Id rather get a decent SSTP/SFTP from a decent brand

                              1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                              • stephenw10S
                                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                last edited by

                                You should be able to see one of the links negotiated at 100M to be sure. pfSense can't see it because the VM host presents it as a 10G NIC but the host should be able to. Or whatever it's connected to.

                                Steve

                                R 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                • R
                                  riahc8 @stephenw10
                                  last edited by

                                  @stephenw10 said in Gigabit internet PPPoE and pfSense:

                                  You should be able to see one of the links negotiated at 100M to be sure. pfSense can't see it because the VM host presents it as a 10G NIC but the host should be able to. Or whatever it's connected to.

                                  Steve

                                  Well

                                  caa3192b-194b-4e74-96ae-385d0c3c9d57-image.png

                                  As you can see, they are all at 1000

                                  johnpozJ 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                  • stephenw10S
                                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                    last edited by

                                    Hmm, something in the config then? Setting it to present 100M?

                                    Or something further upstream?

                                    1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                    • johnpozJ
                                      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @riahc8
                                      last edited by

                                      @riahc8 this is horrible idea..

                                      Horrible.jpg

                                      Hard coding gig is just not good idea, if you do not auto come up gig something is WRONG! hard coding it doesn't fix that.. But it can mask underlying issues.

                                      An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools
                                      If you get confused: Listen to the Music Play
                                      Please don't Chat/PM me for help, unless mod related
                                      SG-4860 24.11 | Lab VMs 2.8, 24.11

                                      R 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
                                      • stephenw10S
                                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                        last edited by

                                        Ha, good catch! I missed that.

                                        Yeah Gigabit Ethernet requires auto-negotiation. One of those is probably connected to something that has fallen back to 100M but you can't see it.

                                        Steve

                                        R 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                        • R
                                          riahc8 @johnpoz
                                          last edited by

                                          @johnpoz said in Gigabit internet PPPoE and pfSense:

                                          @riahc8 this is horrible idea..

                                          Horrible.jpg

                                          Hard coding gig is just not good idea, if you do not auto come up gig something is WRONG! hard coding it doesn't fix that.. But it can mask underlying issues.

                                          Dont know since when I have this up and running but I have NEVER touched that....No idea why it isnt set to Auto MDI-X

                                          1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                          • R
                                            riahc8 @stephenw10
                                            last edited by

                                            @stephenw10 said in Gigabit internet PPPoE and pfSense:

                                            Ha, good catch! I missed that.

                                            Yeah Gigabit Ethernet requires auto-negotiation. One of those is probably connected to something that has fallen back to 100M but you can't see it.

                                            Steve

                                            Well, nothing has really changed:

                                            7fbe7191-352c-43c5-ad50-ed1e1a0416b5-image.png

                                            R 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                            • First post
                                              Last post
                                            Copyright 2025 Rubicon Communications LLC (Netgate). All rights reserved.