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    • stephenw10S
      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
      last edited by

      That isn't really similar, the only thing that's the same is the page fault but that backtrace is completely different. You are still seeing:

      db:0:kdb.enter.default>  bt
      Tracing pid 0 tid 100041 td 0xfffff800055b8000
      kdb_enter() at kdb_enter+0x37/frame 0xfffffe00004db230
      vpanic() at vpanic+0x194/frame 0xfffffe00004db280
      panic() at panic+0x43/frame 0xfffffe00004db2e0
      trap_fatal() at trap_fatal+0x38f/frame 0xfffffe00004db340
      trap_pfault() at trap_pfault+0x4f/frame 0xfffffe00004db3a0
      calltrap() at calltrap+0x8/frame 0xfffffe00004db3a0
      --- trap 0xc, rip = 0xffffffff80de5585, rsp = 0xfffffe00004db470, rbp = 0xfffffe00004db480 ---
      turnstile_broadcast() at turnstile_broadcast+0x45/frame 0xfffffe00004db480
      __mtx_unlock_sleep() at __mtx_unlock_sleep+0x7f/frame 0xfffffe00004db4b0
      pf_test() at pf_test+0x9af/frame 0xfffffe00004db620
      pf_check_out() at pf_check_out+0x1d/frame 0xfffffe00004db640
      pfil_run_hooks() at pfil_run_hooks+0xa1/frame 0xfffffe00004db6e0
      ip_output() at ip_output+0xa74/frame 0xfffffe00004db830
      ip_forward() at ip_forward+0x3aa/frame 0xfffffe00004db900
      ip_input() at ip_input+0x854/frame 0xfffffe00004db9b0
      netisr_dispatch_src() at netisr_dispatch_src+0xb9/frame 0xfffffe00004dba00
      ether_demux() at ether_demux+0x16a/frame 0xfffffe00004dba30
      ether_nh_input() at ether_nh_input+0x33b/frame 0xfffffe00004dba90
      netisr_dispatch_src() at netisr_dispatch_src+0xb9/frame 0xfffffe00004dbae0
      ether_input() at ether_input+0x89/frame 0xfffffe00004dbb40
      iflib_rxeof() at iflib_rxeof+0xaa6/frame 0xfffffe00004dbc20
      _task_fn_rx() at _task_fn_rx+0x72/frame 0xfffffe00004dbc60
      gtaskqueue_run_locked() at gtaskqueue_run_locked+0x121/frame 0xfffffe00004dbcc0
      gtaskqueue_thread_loop() at gtaskqueue_thread_loop+0xd2/frame 0xfffffe00004dbcf0
      fork_exit() at fork_exit+0x7e/frame 0xfffffe00004dbd30
      fork_trampoline() at fork_trampoline+0xe/frame 0xfffffe00004dbd30
      --- trap 0, rip = 0, rsp = 0, rbp = 0 ---
      

      Which is almost identical to the previous panics.

      That shouldn't happen but there has to be something unusual in your config there that's triggering it. Otherwise we would see numerous reports of it.

      Steve

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        fireix @stephenw10
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        @stephenw10 I have a pretty simple setup now I think. No vlans, no segmentation, no custom routing, no dhcp/dns or special features.... Beside the IPSec VPN, I'm simply using it as firewall with a max 50 Mpbs traffic. Problem occour with very little traffic at random times.

        Guess my only choice is to set it up from ground up and see if it helps. Have a ton of aliases/firewall rules, so that would be the boring part... But with a week work it should be possible. Hopefully I can at least export/import the IPSec VPN seperatly. The current config is simply imported from the config-backup-file to this new machine (that also fails), so the problem must be in it somewhere. And system then apparantly accept the config as valid.

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        • stephenw10S
          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
          last edited by

          How is the IPSec configured? Using an unusual cipher perhaps?

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            fireix @stephenw10
            last edited by fireix

            @stephenw10

            Seems like AES.

            AES_CBC (256)
            HMAC_SHA2_256_128
            PRF_HMAC_SHA2_256
            MODP_2048

            On the status-page under SAD, I found these 4 variants active:

            aes-cbc (enc algo)

            And these auth algos:
            hmac-sha1
            hmac-sha2-512
            hmac-sha2-256

            Is it some of these I should standarize on, just to be sure?

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            • stephenw10S
              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
              last edited by

              Well I would avoid SHA1 if you can but all that should work fine. Nothing there is particularly obscure.
              AES-GCM will be significantly faster at P2 if you can use it.

              Steve

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                fireix @stephenw10
                last edited by fireix

                @stephenw10 Instead of just dumping full backup and restore on new hardware like I have done before, I have now prepared like this:

                Configured pfSense from scratch (basically only set up WAN and LAG-interface consisting of LAN1/LAN2) on different machine
                Import NAT, Firewall Rules, Alias and IPSec (and only those 4 sections, not a single more)

                These are the only packages/things I need/use today. I also have pfBlocker package, but can do without.

                Can there really be some mistakes (by me) based on only those four configs that could crash pfSense/BSD?

                At least this would rule out any advanced settings done in the past outside the config-files exported/imported, but of course if it is a mistake in a NAT fw rule, alias or IPSec somehow it wouldn't help.

                Anything else I can do to track down this?

                PS: This forum is so annoying. I had to switch IP in order to post. It gave just "Error" when tried to post the content above. No reason, nothing..

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                  Patch @fireix
                  last edited by Patch

                  @fireix said in pfSense Kernel panic even on new hardware:

                  PS: This forum is so annoying. I had to switch IP in order to post. It gave just "Error" when tried to post the content above. No reason,

                  Happens frequently for me. The solution I use is:

                  • Click on the web browser refresh button. (Doing so retains the post I'm creating in my experience but I sometimes copy it first just in case).

                  • Click on the forum post "Submit" button (again)

                  • The post is accepted without error

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                  • stephenw10S
                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                    last edited by

                    That will be a good test.

                    It's either something in the config triggering some unusual code path or something in the hardware. The hardware seems very unlikely since that's basically the same device we shipped for years without issue.

                    Steve

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                      fireix @stephenw10
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                      @stephenw10 Yeah, I have basically used this server since 2017 and the new of same model in 2018 (just for spare), so I have actually had it trouble free for 4 years before this started happening. What I did a year before this started was to convert it from transparent-mode to a more normal setup (different network on WAN/LAN) with 1-1 NAT. Didn't notice any issues for months. And adding 2 IPSec tunnels, instead of using OpenVPN. That is the only change in 5 years, it has been pretty stable. So very weird this should start now. I have also deactivated one IpSec tunnel I'm no longer using, so until I can shedule a downtime to switch over to the one I have prepared now, that can be a test also.

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                        fireix @stephenw10
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                        @stephenw10 After I removed the LACP-lag I have had for ages (two ports in LACP against two stacked switches, configured for LACP on both sides, with good status), the problem stopped. No more kernel panics or issues since.

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                        • stephenw10S
                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                          last edited by

                          Ah, well that's a good catch! Hmm, interesting. Nothing there really indicates lagg or lacp directly so I guess enabling that is somehow touching some other code... 🤔

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